Bishop: Jesus would back gay marriage?

Nov 27, 2012 | Posted by: Joe DeCaro | Full story: www.seacoastonline.com

Many may consider it a fact that Christianity bans gay marriage, but at least one bishop begs to differ.

A crowd packed the Congregational Church of Exeter Monday night to listen to a talk and Q&A from Gene Robinson, the openly gay Bishop of the Diocese of New Hampshire in the Episcopal Church ...

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<quoted text>Perhaps this article can cure some of your malicious ignorance about the Book of Leviticus: http://christianity.about.com/od/oldtestament...
Malicious ignorance??!!

How could he or anyone else on this thread have any malicious ignorance of Levi after all of the maliciously ignorant repetitive posts YOU have put on here, as examples of just how not to act?!?!?!

All he could have, after all of your obsessively repetitive work, at a very minimum, would be a realistic understanding of how most of these proscriptions in Levi have been abandoned, and rightly so.

They are simply no longer applicable - even among the Jews!

For the Christian, the Old Testament has a significant purpose. But, it is NOT our Living Law.

Our Living Law is much simplified and given to us by the Lord Jesus Himself.

Two Commandments.

The Book of Levi is no longer applicable.

This is the simple truth of the matter. No endlessly vociferous protestations otherwise, on your part or on the part of any other fundamentalist/literalist religious zealot, whatever their denominational persuasion, can change this.

Book of Levi had its purpose and time, a long time ago. Not anymore.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>And who are you to say that it is not Bishop Robinson who is siding with Jesus? You can quote the Bible all you want, but you are speaking for nothing more than your choice of interpretations, not necessarily for Jesus himself. If you want to believe that God does not bless marriages of same sex couples and Jesus doesn't approve, knock yourself out, but why should your issues with what others say God is doing be anyone's problem but your own?
That's what all snake oil salesmen preachers do interpret old books to control their flock and keep the money rolling in. Preachers are so good at lying they believe themselves.

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That's what all snake oil salesmen preachers do interpret old books to control their flock and keep the money rolling in. Preachers are so good at lying they believe themselves.
Joe is not a snake oil salesman, he just believes what he wants to believe. There's nothing in and of itself wrong with that. Sure I find his beliefs morally repugnant, but that ain't my call to make, if I understand my Christianity right, it's God's. As to the assorted peddlers of various versions of the God, I'm of two minds. I saw what Jim Bakker could do to the tune of "You Get To Go To Heaven, When You Give It Up To God", so I kind of admire them from the observable standpoint and sometimes they do really bad things.

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<quoted text>Joe is not a snake oil salesman, he just believes what he wants to believe. There's nothing in and of itself wrong with that. Sure I find his beliefs morally repugnant, but that ain't my call to make, if I understand my Christianity right, it's God's. As to the assorted peddlers of various versions of the God, I'm of two minds. I saw what Jim Bakker could do to the tune of "You Get To Go To Heaven, When You Give It Up To God", so I kind of admire them from the observable standpoint and sometimes they do really bad things.
Whether in politics, relgion, art, science, no matter what the subject, people believe in what they want to believe. This is why conmen are often so successful. Saw the case of Diazien Hossencofft and Girly Chew (decidedly WEIRD names) on tv earlier. Proves the obvious point.

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WOO-HOO ! "We're on an express elevator to HELL ! Goin down !"

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Hick, you are delusional.
I am? I'm glad you told me. I never would have known. Thank you.
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You choose to live in open rebellion against Christianity.
Yes David, I live in open rebellion to your version of Christianity. Proudly so in fact. I think more people should live in rebellion to what I see as your incredibly flocked up version of Christianity.
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You choose to live in open rebellion of God's many direct condemnations of all homosexual behavior.
Honey, you are free to pretend there are as many condemnations of homosexuality in that book you have obviously never read as your little heart desires, that don't necessarily make it true for anyone but you. You believe in a non-Semitic, pretty white boy, blue-eyed Jesus with fabulous blond highlights for the Middle East in the first century of the common era, your version of Christianity is pretty suspect based on that fact alone.
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You follow Satan not Jesus.
So you pray. Good luck with that.

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The only pathetic lies about your identity here dear have been your own.
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<quoted text>So Hick, why don't you post evidence to back up your lie?
Oh, that's right. You have none, just like you have none to support your ridiculous lies about the Bible not repeatedly condemning your homosexual lifestyle choice in both Testaments and in the plainest of terms.
Jesus was often depicted at gay weddings; sometimes wearing a wedding gown
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

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Jesus NEVER said it David.

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Jesus was often depicted at gay weddings; sometimes wearing a wedding gown
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
The white gown was the linen tunic of the Essenes. It is also an esoteric suggestion that Jesus was/is an Ascended Master of the Great White Brotherhood. That being a Teacher. It has nothing to do with personal human race and everything to do with the Light.

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<quoted text>There is no David here. As a non-Christian you just don't get it. Jesus is THE WORD (John 1:1) Perhaps this page can help you understand what Christians believe: http://www.pureintimacy.org/piArticles/A00000...
1) The gospels are not more authoritative than those books of the Bible that condemn homosexual behavior. All authors of Scripture were inspired by God’s Holy Spirit.6
2) The gospels are not comprehensive. Some of the Bible’s most important teachings—the explanation of spiritual gifts, the Priesthood of Christ, the doctrine of man’s old and new nature—appear in other books of the Bible.
3) The gospels do not claim to be a complete account of Jesus’ life or teachings. Sections of Jesus’ life are not discussed in the gospels and we cannot be certain that Jesus never spoke about homosexual behavior.
4) Scripture teaches that Jesus kept all the Law and affirmed all that the Law and the Prophets taught.7 Undoubtedly, this would have included the affirmation of committed, monogamous male-female marriage and an unwavering condemnation of homosexual behavior. Given that all first century orthodox Jews would have held to this standard, the question of affirming homosexuality would not have been open to discussion in Jesus’ day.
5) Jesus clearly referred to heterosexuality as a standard. He specifically described God's created intent for human sexuality:“But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."8
The above contains a number of incorrect assumptions.

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Jesus NEVER said it David.
Actually he did. In the OT. Jesus is God. God of the NT and God of the OT. Therefore though his name Jesus wasn't used in the OT, it was he that gave all the commands and revelations in the OT and then the NT.

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Actually he did. In the OT. Jesus is God. God of the NT and God of the OT. Therefore though his name Jesus wasn't used in the OT, it was he that gave all the commands and revelations in the OT and then the NT.
When you understand the TRINITY, please ENLIGHTEN us all...

JESUS NEVER SAID IT!

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<quoted text>When you understand the TRINITY, please ENLIGHTEN us all...
JESUS NEVER SAID IT!
I'm a church-going Christian of 50 years and I don't believe in the concept of The Trinity.

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When you understand the TRINITY, please ENLIGHTEN us all...
JESUS NEVER SAID IT!
So Jesus never spoke of Himself, His Father or The Comforter, or can't you count to three?

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<quoted text>When you understand the TRINITY, please ENLIGHTEN us all...
JESUS NEVER SAID IT!
When I understand the trinity? lol...please.....
Would you like a definition from the Catholic encyclopaedia or a fundamental definition as I have learned it from Catholic priests, Baptist ministers, etc that believe in it?
We'll go for the latter first to see what you disagree with.
According to the trinity definition most use, God is a single spirit/being with three personages while still remaining a single spirit/being.
Therefore what anyone personage does, so does the other two personages do because they are all of a single being. It's like you have three personalities understand? No matter what anyone of your three personalities do/says, your all doing it because your all one being.
Therefore though God is defined by three different main names in the Bible, God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy ghost/Spirit, they are all the same EXACT SINGLE BEING. Therefore what one does, they all do because they are all A SINGLE SOLITARY BEING with three main names.
Therefore the God of the OT is the same God of the NT with the exception of being known by different names. And you knowing the definition of the trinity didn't understand that?
Maybe you believe they are three separate beings? That would explain your confusion of not knowing that a single being in the trinity concept goes by three main names to describe it's three main personages while remaining a single being?

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Actually he did. In the OT. Jesus is God. God of the NT and God of the OT. Therefore though his name Jesus wasn't used in the OT, it was he that gave all the commands and revelations in the OT and then the NT.
Well then,... if that is so, He, God, changed his mind on several things, didn't He.

How many examples do you need to admit this? One should be enough. But, if that is not enough, how about two? Three? More? How many more?

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Well then,... if that is so, He, God, changed his mind on several things, didn't He.
How many examples do you need to admit this? One should be enough. But, if that is not enough, how about two? Three? More? How many more?
Rev. Ken
It's a Bible fact that God changed his mind on a number of occasions where he stated he was doing one thing and relented to do another.
And what did your post have to do with my previous post to the other person?
She stated Jesus said nothing against homosexuality. I said he did. That the Bible declares God as the same single being regardless of what name we give him now or 4000 years ago. That the God that spoke in the OT is the same God that walked the earth and was called Jesus. Thus God(Jesus)did speak against same sex actions in the OT. Pretty simple really, the Bible declares it, not me :)
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It's a Bible fact that God changed his mind on a number of occasions where he stated he was doing one thing and relented to do another.
And what did your post have to do with my previous post to the other person?
She stated Jesus said nothing against homosexuality. I said he did. That the Bible declares God as the same single being regardless of what name we give him now or 4000 years ago. That the God that spoke in the OT is the same God that walked the earth and was called Jesus. Thus God(Jesus)did speak against same sex actions in the OT. Pretty simple really, the Bible declares it, not me :)
That must be one heck of a 'bible' you have there
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Who copyrighted it? Rick Santorum? or John McCain?

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So Jesus never spoke of Himself, His Father or The Comforter, or can't you count to three?
I don't question the TRINITY...the other guy did.

Let me give you the simple version:

God is the candle.
Jesus is the flame.
Holy Spirit is the light that shines from it.

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