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Colo. Baker Who Refused Gay Wedding Cake Appears In Court

There are 148 comments on the Advocate story from Dec 5, 2013, titled Colo. Baker Who Refused Gay Wedding Cake Appears In Court. In it, Advocate reports that:

A bakery owner in Lakewood, Colo., appeared in court yesterday to defend himself against allegations that he discriminated against a gay couple last July when he refused to bake a cake for their wedding.

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Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#126 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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Its not over until the fat queer sings .
So what are you "disgusted" about? That your narrow minded, hateful way of thinking is becoming a thing of the past?
Claude

Romania

#128 Dec 10, 2013
Gremlin wrote:
<quoted text>So what are you "disgusted" about? That your narrow minded, hateful way of thinking is becoming a thing of the past?
I, along with 99% of the rest of the world, are disgusted by you nasty ass perverts sticking your d!cks up each other asses and sucking each other's d!cks!
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#129 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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Not sorry to say that you/your kind will never be accepted by the majority .
Tolerated perhaps like now but never accepted .
You better get used to it !
Guess what, bigot......I don't need your seal of approval. Sit back and watch as state after state and country after country legalizes gay marriage. Get used to it. LMAO!
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#130 Dec 10, 2013
Claude wrote:
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I, along with 99% of the rest of the world, are disgusted by you nasty ass perverts sticking your d!cks up each other asses and sucking each other's d!cks!
Ask me if I care, you POS. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#132 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
That may be true but like I said .
"Tolerated perhaps like now but never accepted"
The majority will only tolerate you because of being forced to !
Every time you interact with someone you will be wondering if that person really approves of your perverted ways or are they just tolerating you !
Tolerating is not acceptance !
"You better get used to it !"
Being gay is not peverted, and I couldn't care less if a bigot approves of me being gay or not. I'm happy being gay, and wouldn't have it any other way. Like a well known person once wrote: "I don't need anyone's opinion. I've got my own."

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#134 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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Not all laws are just .
In fact many Great people have broken unjust laws !
So what. Many have also broken just laws (like this one).

Are you trying to say that laws that ban discrimination based on religion, race, sex, etc. are unjust?

Hope you like the hypocrisy these people show.

The religious right is trying to use their religious freedoms to make an end run around not only civil laws but also Biblical Scripture!

Romans 13:1-5
13 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#135 Dec 10, 2013
hidden agenda wrote:
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I was under the impression the judge ordered man to to bake for the gay men! Is that not what the article said? The man offered to make other cakes, cookies and confectionaries. But he was not comfortable with a same sex marriage.
Not like he screamed and was mean. Just didn't want to be imposed upon.
I hope bakery takes to federal court wins! In turn making these two gay men pay for possible lost business and pain and suffering!
I have no idea why you would think that. Maybe you need to look at the first sentence in the 7th paragraph one more time.

"The civil judge who heard the case Wednesday is expected to rule by early next week."

The baker WAS NOT FORCED to bake a cake for this couple! By a judge or anyone else.
(Are you REALLY that silly?)

I REALLY wish all the Holy Rollers would go back and look at how many Bible passages tell us TO OBEY CIVIL LAWS!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#136 Dec 10, 2013
hidden agenda wrote:
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That's your story and you are sticking to it! I got that.
So I guess now you think States Rights are unjust?

Odd but for years we kept hearing the mantra "marriage is a States Rights issue". Well in Colorado the States Rights include the ability to prosecute people for criminal acts like this one.

This guy committed a CRIME! He broke STATE LAW.

But because this is about gays, that's no big deal for you, right? So you'd be OK if someone refused service to Christians because they are christian? Or is your hypocrisy more fine tuned on that than it is in this case?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#137 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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WOW !
ANGER !
Because you know I am right !
BTW, when Blacks got to ride in the front of the bus & use any water fountain they did not ram it down anyone's throat like you personally seem to be doing .
& they didn't whine like the 2 sissy's about a stupid cake !
No, it's anger because you are a mindless fool and a bigot too.

If a business refused to serve you because of your sex, race, ethnic background, religion or political views, we all know you'd be running to court and the papers so you could get your 15 minutes of fame.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#138 Dec 10, 2013
hidden agenda wrote:
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Haha nope, defaming your Topix name has no repercussion. Also your character is questionable on its own. All someone would have to do is read your threads. Your crying for attention. Kinda like someone suffering from past abuse of sort. Pillar in your community must take on a different meaning in northern Cali. You haven't mention one thing I would accredit to being a pillar. Hatred and judgement. Not good start!
On the contrary. Many people have been sued and LOST for the type of things you've been doing.
But since you're just an idiotic troll, you wouldn't know that. Go back to what your kind do best, spamming icons. Rational thought isn't your forte.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#139 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
Whats the meaning of "doth protest too much" ?
What does this Bible passage mean? That as a Christian this guy doesn't have to follow God's Word?

Romans 13:1-5
English Standard Version (ESV)
Submission to the Authorities

"13 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience."

LMAO

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#140 Dec 10, 2013
Freedom wrote:
If the people don't like that the baker would not make them a cake. They have the opposition to go somewhere else or opening their own bakery. They should have no right to tell a person that worked and invested his own money to tell him how to run his Bakery. The government should keep their nose out of private business. The government is kissing the ass of all the people that has their feeling hurt. The government is trying to make everybody think they care about their feeling but they only want bigger government. We have a free country yet but moving toward a socialist system if the government has their way.
I think you meant option not opposition!

LMAO!

BTW What does this Bible passage mean? That as a Christian this guy doesn't have to follow God's Word?

Romans 13:1-5
English Standard Version (ESV)
Submission to the Authorities

"13 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience."

This so called "Christian Baker" (and all of you who support him) is cherry picking the Bible to justify his disobedience to it!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#141 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
What does "Christian" have to do with my comment ?
Or for that matter , me ?
Why do homosexuals think its only Christians that disapprove of homosexuality ?
Maybe because the story is about a "Christian" who broke the law and is now trying to claim that God told him it was ok to do so?

BTW many Christians approve of gays and lesbians as do many other people of faith.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#142 Dec 10, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Please extend my deepest sympathies to everyone who knows you. I realize this was the best you can do and I can't help but pity those who have to deal with you in real life.
Testify!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#143 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
re:"defaming my character" as a butt hole sucking homosexual?
&
Really ?
Who the hell are you ?
OH that's right you are a fictitious avatar that is not a real human & you have no standing in any court in the whole world much less the USA !
Give up your 'I'm gonna sue you ' because fact is you can not !
I generally find that people who spout "sue" really have no clue as too what is a actionable law suit & what is not !
BTW if you want to disclose your true name & address I'll see if I can really defame you !
Think again.

Do a google search for the number of court cases Topix is involved in around the country over the type of behavior you display.

Then go and look at the number of successful libel suits that have happened over the years.

Here's some examples:

Blogger Loses Defamation Case, Judge Weighs in on Who is "Really" a Journalist
http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/07/blogger-in-...

Case Law: Thompson v James blogger loses libel claim against Council Gervase de Wilde
http://inforrm.wordpress.com/2013/03/20/case-...

Mont. blogger ordered to pay $2.5 million for defamation
http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resource...

Of course, noting how you are reacting to this story, it's clear you don't think any laws apply to you. Keep thinking that way. And I'm sure we will be seeing you on the news in the near future.

LMAO.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#144 Dec 10, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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The 1st Amendment guarantees him the right to religious freedom.
Which law do you mean?
And his business license requires him to obey State Laws regarding discrimination.

As for his religious freedom, how come you aren't concerned about how much of his religion he DOESN'T practice?

The man says he's a Christian. So why is he ignoring Scripture from Romans? And how come none of you will admit this? Is is stupidity, ignorance or just plain bigotry?

Romans 13:1-5
English Standard Version (ESV)
Submission to the Authorities

13 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#146 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope!
Should have been CAN'T !
Because a avatar can't cause a law suit to be brought against anyone .
& Check 'Cause of Action' turdbreath .
BTW, since you are ignoring me it seems you forgot & replied .
Dumb sissy !
Wrong. Dumbass!

A screen name is an identity that can be verified by company records.

Lee and Rose DO have a viable libel case against you. If you think otherwise someone needs to slap your Mother for raising such a fool.

Blogger Loses Defamation Case, Judge Weighs in on Who is "Really" a Journalist
http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/07/blogger-in -...

Case Law: Thompson v James blogger loses libel claim against Council Gervase de Wilde
http://inforrm.wordpress.com/2013/03/20/case -...

Mont. blogger ordered to pay $2.5 million for defamation
http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resource ...

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#147 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical of his type !
Not all homosexuals, just his type .
Trying to make people think he really knows something & trying to scare people to get his homosexual way & shut us all up.
NorCal is a female.

She and I both would never try to silence people like you because your end up making such a fool of yourself that it ends up advancing our struggle for full equality.

To claim that people are trying to silence you is the oldest and lamest dodge for internet trolls.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#148 Dec 10, 2013
Claude wrote:
<quoted text>
I, along with 99% of the rest of the world, are disgusted by you nasty ass perverts sticking your d!cks up each other asses and sucking each other's d!cks!
Then stop posting about it, stop obsessing about it and get over it.

99% of the straight people I know don't think about what I do with my genitalia.

Aren't you happy to be a 1% er now?

LMAO

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#149 Dec 10, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
You care or you wouldn't have responded to my comment.
BTW, there's nothing like holding your own child or grand child in your arms & feeling the love come from them .
Something sadly, you'll never experience .
I don't understand why you think gays and lesbians are sterile.

We can and do have biological children AND grandchildren.

I'm happy you have or may have children or grandchildren, but saddened that they have such a twit as a blood relative. Hopefully they won't inherit your IQ and will be more compassionate to your bigotry than you are to us.

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