Gay marriage support has risks for GOP lawmakers

Feb 15, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Athens Banner-Herald

ST. PAUL, Minn. - As more state legislatures around the country consider whether to legalize same-sex weddings, an analysis of gay marriage votes in eight states shows that Republican lawmakers who backed it often faced consequences - including loss of their seats.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes...american bigotsw like you will be called by your rightful name for the rest of history. your children will call you by that name...
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Whatevea wrote:
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just the kid of 'patriot' that is holding our nation back like an anchor stuck in the mud...

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I never said it would pass, just put it on the ballot instead of argue about it. Just not something we should get side tracked over, a distraction..
It's would take 5 minutes for the House to vote and send it to the Gov and then it's all over but the crying for the GOPasaurs.

How much of a distraction is that?

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Robert wrote:
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The results of the will of the people on this issue are not my concern, it is just not that important a issue. We have important political issues to solve and don't need to be distracted. Funny how liberals are all for a democratic process when it comes to satisfying wealth envy, it is the will of the people but when the vote does not go their way they want a different process.
The only "distraction" comes from the GOPasaurs opposing equality.

They can end the "distraction" any time they want by simply passing the bill and moving on.

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Gay marriage is a man made law (Babylon) it is not part of God's law.
God's "law" is not the law of the land.

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Keep praticing your goosestep. You never know.
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The only way to end this debate is for there to be a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

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In Minnesota, the majority of GOP seats are located in out state, or non-metro areas. These areas traditionally have remained fairly conservative in their politics. The tweener locales such as some inner ring and outer ring suburbs have a tendency to swing back and forth about every 6-12 years between the DFL and GOP. The inner city is strictly DFL. I am not sure the article is some smoke screen by the AP writer with some agenda.

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Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>God's "law" is not the law of the land.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
Who is this Creator fella Mr. Jefferson keeps talking about?? Oh I know this is not from the Constitution, but the Declaration, but damn, they mention God and Creator a lot!
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Why in the Hell do people get so upset over an issue that is unlikely to affect their personal lives in the least. They just want to impose their medieval 'religion' on others! Fortunately we have freedom FROM religion in this country no matter what fundietards say!

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Ray wrote:
The only way to end this debate is for there to be a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.
Good luck getting that passed.

Meanwhile we'll be adding more state to the equality side one at a time until we have all 50.

Btw, Oregon will be on the docket for 2014.

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Niether of the Above wrote:
<quoted text>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
Who is this Creator fella Mr. Jefferson keeps talking about?? Oh I know this is not from the Constitution, but the Declaration, but damn, they mention God and Creator a lot!
Actually they mentioned a "creator" just once, and your god-creature wasn't mentioned at all in EITHER document.

Btw, my creator was my parents.

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Niether of the Above wrote:
<quoted text>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
Who is this Creator fella Mr. Jefferson keeps talking about?? Oh I know this is not from the Constitution, but the Declaration, but damn, they mention God and Creator a lot!
Did Jefferson have a hot-line to God? Is that why I've been on "hold" so long?

Of course if His Arrogance Thomas Jefferson says there is a Creator, who are we ordinary humans to argue?

I think the opening quote in your post has a certain irony, in that Jefferson kept slaves and even fathered a child with one. While I admire much of what is contained in the Declaration of Independence, I do not deify any of its authors. They are no more capable of discerning the existence of creators or gods than you or I.

All that aside, whether or not there is a creator may be a seperate question from some biblical version of a god. I personally believe there was probably some sort of creative energy that started the ball rolling, but that it did not wear robes and sandals.

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Niether of the Above wrote:
<quoted text>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
Who is this Creator fella Mr. Jefferson keeps talking about?? Oh I know this is not from the Constitution, but the Declaration, but damn, they mention God and Creator a lot!
P.S.- You misspelled "Neither".

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Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
Why in the Hell do people get so upset over an issue that is unlikely to affect their personal lives in the least. They just want to impose their medieval 'religion' on others! Fortunately we have freedom FROM religion in this country no matter what fundietards say!
Right on, Sheik!

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Actually they mentioned a "creator" just once, and your god-creature wasn't mentioned at all in EITHER document.
Btw, my creator was my parents.
Declaration of Independance Says:When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
At the end of the constitution, It reads in the year of our Lord.

Our God creature, mentioned in both documents! LOL

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<quoted text>Did Jefferson have a hot-line to God? Is that why I've been on "hold" so long?
Of course if His Arrogance Thomas Jefferson says there is a Creator, who are we ordinary humans to argue?
I think the opening quote in your post has a certain irony, in that Jefferson kept slaves and even fathered a child with one. While I admire much of what is contained in the Declaration of Independence, I do not deify any of its authors. They are no more capable of discerning the existence of creators or gods than you or I.
All that aside, whether or not there is a creator may be a seperate question from some biblical version of a god. I personally believe there was probably some sort of creative energy that started the ball rolling, but that it did not wear robes and sandals.
I don't diefy anyone, as it is far above my pay scale. Those who "demand" proof of someone exisitence, beit Christ or any other who lived in that era of history will, more often than not would not accept any "proof" regardless, so to get into that discussion, for me, is a waste of my time and my energy. My personal belief is Jesus Christ was God, made man, and rose to save the mankind and to give us path to spiritual salvation. What I find interesting is how do you know he wore a robe or sandles? It amazes me with all of the history and the evolving of our human exsistence, the one common strain, From the Christians marytered in Rome, to Spanish Inquisition, to Henry the Eighth declaring the Church of England as the new Church, the significance this non existent man, Jesus Christ, had on our human history! Of course, the history books could all be wrong, right? Merely words written by men, who could have imbellished things, right? Hey, you believe what you wish, but there seems to be more references than not to this guy named Jesus Christ.

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<quoted text>P.S.- You misspelled "Neither".
I know, it was done on purpose for personal reasons!

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Niether of the Above wrote:
<quoted text>Declaration of Independance Says:When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
At the end of the constitution, It reads in the year of our Lord.
Our God creature, mentioned in both documents! LOL
I stand corrected; some form of your god-creature was indeed mentioned in both documents.

Just goes to show the authors of both documents weren't perfect.
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Niether of the Above wrote:
<quoted text>I don't diefy anyone, as it is far above my pay scale. Those who "demand" proof of someone exisitence, beit Christ or any other who lived in that era of history will, more often than not would not accept any "proof" regardless, so to get into that discussion, for me, is a waste of my time and my energy. My personal belief is Jesus Christ was God, made man, and rose to save the mankind and to give us path to spiritual salvation. What I find interesting is how do you know he wore a robe or sandles? It amazes me with all of the history and the evolving of our human exsistence, the one common strain, From the Christians marytered in Rome, to Spanish Inquisition, to Henry the Eighth declaring the Church of England as the new Church, the significance this non existent man, Jesus Christ, had on our human history! Of course, the history books could all be wrong, right? Merely words written by men, who could have imbellished things, right? Hey, you believe what you wish, but there seems to be more references than not to this guy named Jesus Christ.
I was watching the discovery channel that is not how they said it happened, they got it figured out down to the specific mammal, some rodent like creature, which survived the last mass extinction and everything spawned from.

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