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Gay couples hope legislation makes Hawaii first Western state w...

There are 16145 comments on the The Morning Call story from Feb 22, 2009, titled Gay couples hope legislation makes Hawaii first Western state w.... In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Hawaii , the state that adopted the nation's first "defense of marriage" constitutional amendment a decade ago, has now become the latest battleground in the fight for same-sex civil unions.

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#17048 Dec 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Those acts are not the fruit of their faith? Moreover, they don't count?
You think their life of sacrifice is funny?
How gay.
That's not the question was it? That's interpretation, derived, and idiosyncratic.

Still waiting.
LOLreally

Sparta, TN

#17050 Mar 25, 2014
I've been to Hawaii. To me, it's paradise. A garden of Eden. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. So much for the Rainbow State... literally.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#17051 Apr 10, 2014
LOLreally wrote:
I've been to Hawaii. To me, it's paradise. A garden of Eden. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. So much for the Rainbow State... literally.
Live and let live, and by God (yes, you just made a deity blush), please update your talking points! If Steve did exist, Adam fell prey to a sic pack of beer!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17052 Apr 11, 2014
Won't same sex couples feel inferior next to diverse gendered couples, especially when the latter have children?
A cultural relationship is defined by specific details. There is significant differences between a diverse gendered couple and a duplicate gendered couple. There is also a profound difference between a relationship that bears fruit, and one that never does.
An example for just part of the question is the difficulty a heterosexual couple unable to bear children experiences.

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#17053 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Won't same sex couples feel inferior next to diverse gendered couples, especially when the latter have children?...
You'll just have to wait and ask them when you meet them.
KiMare

Collegeville, PA

#17054 Apr 11, 2014
snyper wrote:
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You'll just have to wait and ask them when you meet them.
Good suggestion.
So far every single one has acknowledged a deep sense of inferiority.

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#17055 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Good suggestion.
So far every single one has acknowledged a deep sense of inferiority.
"Inferiority in how they are treated socially and legally; in other words extrinsically, or intrinsically?

How was this expressed in words, literally?

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

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#17057 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Won't same sex couples feel inferior next to diverse gendered couples, especially when the latter have children?
No, why would we? And the former can have children as well, so that was just stupid adding that to your question.
KiMare wrote:
A cultural relationship is defined by specific details. There is significant differences between a diverse gendered couple and a duplicate gendered couple. There is also a profound difference between a relationship that bears fruit, and one that never does.
You adding "profound" doesn't make it so. And all couples have significant differences. You seem to think differences matter about something. They don't.
KiMare wrote:
An example for just part of the question is the difficulty a heterosexual couple unable to bear children experiences.
No that isn't an example, because that heterosexual couple doesn't feel inferior. Nor do they think their differences are profound.

You're an idiot Gregory Kirschmann.
Jonny

New Haven, CT

#17059 May 21, 2014
So we're up to 18 states & DC w/legal same-sex marriage and three others where mixed-sex marriage has been struck down, now on appeal as of 5/20/2014 but surely to stand. This leaves 32 states explicitly banning gay marriage.

Notice how one total keeps going up and the other keeps going down...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17060 May 21, 2014
Jonny wrote:
So we're up to 18 states & DC w/legal same-sex marriage and three others where mixed-sex marriage has been struck down, now on appeal as of 5/20/2014 but surely to stand. This leaves 32 states explicitly banning gay marriage.
Notice how one total keeps going up and the other keeps going down...
Notice how SS couples are only ever mutually sterile, pointless duplication gender halves of marriage? Inferior right off the bat.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

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#17061 May 23, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Notice how SS couples are only ever mutually sterile, pointless duplication gender halves of marriage? Inferior right off the bat.
Notice how your opinions mean absolutely nothing to anyone other than yourself. And yes, you are inferior. You always have been.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17062 May 23, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Notice how SS couples are only ever mutually sterile, pointless duplication gender halves of marriage? Inferior right off the bat.
Jonah1 wrote:
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Notice how your opinions mean absolutely nothing to anyone other than yourself.
I notice how you always respond to my posts.

Hows your marrage?

Smile.
Justin Love

New Haven, CT

#17063 May 24, 2014
PA # 19 WOOT
Taking notes

Ashburn, VA

#17064 May 24, 2014
Polyticians are...just like with the herb, mon...

That is the beauty of America. We can have both this ultra-conservative right-wing keep-the-thumb-on-and-mash-the m AND a true freedom-loving-and-creative culture where BOTH are able to make gains here and there. Right here, looks like FREEDOM WINS!!
Jon Tyme

New Britain, CT

#17065 Jun 25, 2014
Yesterday Indiana and today UTAH, to quote the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit-

"The Fourteenth Amendment protects the fundamental right to marry, establish a family, raise children, and enjoy the full protection of a state's marital laws. A STATE MAY NOT DENY THE ISSUANCE OF A MARRAIGE LICENSE TO TWO PERSONS, OR REFUSE TO RECOGNIZE THEIR MARRAIGE, BASED SOLELY UPON THE SEX OF THE PERSONS IN THE MARRAIGE UNION."

Meanwhile, yesterday while striking down Indiana's ban of gay marraige, the United States District Court for the southern District of Indiana noted "In less than a year, every Federal District Court to consider the issue has reached the same conclusion in thoughtful and thorough opinions - laws prohibiting the celebration and recognition of same-sex marraiges are unconstitutional."
Silent Bob

New Britain, CT

#17068 Oct 20, 2014
Thanks to SCOTUS we are up to 31 + DC and suddenly deafening SILENCE from The Right as they drop the issue like a hot potato and try to get the voters riled up about...EBOLA?
colorado chicken head

Philadelphia, PA

#17069 Oct 20, 2014
Silent Bob wrote:
Thanks to SCOTUS we are up to 31 + DC and suddenly deafening SILENCE from The Right as they drop the issue like a hot potato and try to get the voters riled up about...EBOLA?
yup

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17070 Oct 21, 2014
When the dust settles, and the twists have spun their webs, this will remain:

Ss couples are fatally inferior to marriage.

A failure of mating behavior that stands epically simplistic next to the complexity of Mars and Venus united.

A sexually depraved union of Uranus and Uranus opposite the perfect and completed union of a man and woman in body, mind and spirit.

And most devastating? The absolute barrenness vainly equating itself to the wonder of human fruit, the literal blend of a man and woman.

And you argue legalities so degraded that stupid looks smart.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

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#17071 Oct 21, 2014
KiMare wrote:
When the dust settles, and the twists have spun their webs, this will remain:
Ss couples are fatally inferior to marriage.
A failure of mating behavior that stands epically simplistic next to the complexity of Mars and Venus united.
A sexually depraved union of Uranus and Uranus opposite the perfect and completed union of a man and woman in body, mind and spirit.
And most devastating? The absolute barrenness vainly equating itself to the wonder of human fruit, the literal blend of a man and woman.
And you argue legalities so degraded that stupid looks smart.
When the dust settles, your nonsense will still just be nonsense, and you will remain insignificant, ineffective, and your wife wil still be ugly like you.
BOP

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#17072 Oct 28, 2014
Now up to 32 states + DC and, of course, the total will keep on rising as appeals are abandoned or overturned. Also, this total does not include states that, while not allowing SSM, do recognize other states' marriage vows.

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