Wheelchair-Bound Minn. Man Arrested &...

Wheelchair-Bound Minn. Man Arrested & Charged With Vandalizing Pro-Gay Church

There are 23 comments on the EDGE story from Aug 7, 2013, titled Wheelchair-Bound Minn. Man Arrested & Charged With Vandalizing Pro-Gay Church. In it, EDGE reports that:

A man has been arrested and charged in Maple Grove, Minn., a town of 61,567 located just 17 miles north-west of Minneapolis, for vandalizing a pro-gay church four times since June, according to CBS Minneapolis.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#1 Aug 7, 2013
Throw him in jail for many years.

“Where's my fairy wand!”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#2 Aug 7, 2013
He's certainly entitled to his opinion but he's not entitled to damage or deface somebody else's property. Let him scrawl his comment across the face of his own home.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#3 Aug 7, 2013
It doesn't sound like the charges merit more than a slap on the armrest. I wonder if three-strikes could be applied?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#4 Aug 7, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
It doesn't sound like the charges merit more than a slap on the armrest. I wonder if three-strikes could be applied?
Not all states have 3 strikes laws. I think that they should.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#5 Aug 7, 2013
And too many bleeding-heart liberals make a big fuss when a criminal is sentenced to 25 years to life for stealing some videotapes or a slice of pizza.

I say: "LOCK EM UP !"
Lavar

Seychelles

#6 Aug 7, 2013
Frankie Rizzo was that you?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#7 Aug 7, 2013
One effect of the three-strikes law in California, is that the jails and prisons are bursting with people. Therefore, a court ordered many to be released to decrease prison and jail overcrowding.

In California, convicted sex offenders and other felons walking free, despite continuously violating their parole. That's a direct result of prison overcrowding.

Two years ago, county judges in California lost their authority to send convicted felons back to prison for parole violations. Instead, they must send them to county jails.

Because county jails are dealing with their own overcrowding issues, these sex offenders and other felons are being set free on unsuspecting citizens, and these criminals continue to commit crimes.

I'm all for three-strikes laws, but you have to build and staff the jails and prisons to house these violent criminals.

And 99.9% of people do NOT commit felonies. It's the 0.1% of the population that brings grief to the average honest hard-working American, who comes home one day from a hard day at work to find his house burgled, his stuff gone, and his car stolen.

I say: "LOCK EM UP !"

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#8 Aug 7, 2013
End the failed war on drugs. Problem solved.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#9 Aug 7, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
End the failed war on drugs. Problem solved.
Well, that's a different issue than this criminal constantly vandalizing a church.

This guy should be in jail.

“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#10 Aug 7, 2013
Lavar wrote:
Frankie Rizzo was that you?
Thinking the same! Dizzo would have been dressed in a little uniform, and surrounded by all his polygamist wives!
R-1 the Great

Lawrence, KS

#11 Aug 7, 2013
NE Jade wrote:
<quoted text>Thinking the same! Dizzo would have been dressed in a little uniform, and surrounded by all his polygamist wives!
Yuk Yuk Yuk! Why does Jade get so excited every time I post on here? This little comment will keep him posting and rating posts for days.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#12 Aug 7, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
One effect of the three-strikes law in California, is that the jails and prisons are bursting with people. Therefore, a court ordered many to be released to decrease prison and jail overcrowding.
In California, convicted sex offenders and other felons walking free, despite continuously violating their parole. That's a direct result of prison overcrowding.
Two years ago, county judges in California lost their authority to send convicted felons back to prison for parole violations. Instead, they must send them to county jails.
Because county jails are dealing with their own overcrowding issues, these sex offenders and other felons are being set free on unsuspecting citizens, and these criminals continue to commit crimes.
I'm all for three-strikes laws, but you have to build and staff the jails and prisons to house these violent criminals.
And 99.9% of people do NOT commit felonies. It's the 0.1% of the population that brings grief to the average honest hard-working American, who comes home one day from a hard day at work to find his house burgled, his stuff gone, and his car stolen.
I say: "LOCK EM UP !"
Well, open that bottomless wallet of your and pay for the upkeep of all these prisons, will ya? thanks! Maybe you can cut your hair and sell it and use the money for more prisons.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#13 Aug 7, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Well, open that bottomless wallet of your and pay for the upkeep of all these prisons, will ya? thanks! Maybe you can cut your hair and sell it and use the money for more prisons.
I live in Arizona. Sheriff Joe Arpaio country. We keep our jail costs low by just putting up tents in the desert, and letting the prisoners live there.:)

Or are you saying that repeat offenders, criminals convicted of sex crimes, and people who have violated their probation or parole shouldn't be incarcerated ? Because they've flung open the gates in California.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#14 Aug 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I live in Arizona. Sheriff Joe Arpaio country. We keep our jail costs low by just putting up tents in the desert, and letting the prisoners live there.:)
Or are you saying that repeat offenders, criminals convicted of sex crimes, and people who have violated their probation or parole shouldn't be incarcerated ? Because they've flung open the gates in California.
No, moron, I am saying even those who backed the 3 strikes law realize it was far too draconian. A lot of offenders are in for almost minor crimes, stealing a DVD or something, or low level drug offenders, who should be in rehab instead of prison. Do you really think someone like that is as bad a sex murderer or rapist? It is breaking the state and you know it.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#15 Aug 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I live in Arizona. Sheriff Joe Arpaio country. We keep our jail costs low by just putting up tents in the desert, and letting the prisoners live there.:)
Or are you saying that repeat offenders, criminals convicted of sex crimes, and people who have violated their probation or parole shouldn't be incarcerated ? Because they've flung open the gates in California.
Again, hop on your fork lift and work lots of overtime to pay for all these prisons you love so much.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#16 Aug 8, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>No, moron, I am saying even those who backed the 3 strikes law realize it was far too draconian. A lot of offenders are in for almost minor crimes, stealing a DVD or something, or low level drug offenders, who should be in rehab instead of prison. Do you really think someone like that is as bad a sex murderer or rapist? It is breaking the state and you know it.
Do I believe a guy like the guy who stole the videotapes, whose name is Leandro Andrade, should be sentenced to life in prison ?(he was). YES, I DO.

And I'll tell you why.

This was his third strike. But you make it sound as if this was the first time the guy stole something. Or if you even concede that this was his third time stealing something, this is just the third time he was CAUGHT ! i have no doubt he's stealing at least 3 things a day every day of his life.

As I think we can all agree that 99.9% of Americans are honest hard-working people who, unlike LEANDRO ANDRADE, the serial tape-stealer, do not go out and commit crimes. Not only does the average American not commit crimes, te average American does not commit crimes on a daily basis like Andrade did. He was a career criminal.

Part of Andrade's life story is: stole five videotapes from a K-Mart store in Ontario, California. Two weeks later, he stole four videotapes from a different K-Mart store in Montclair, California. He had been convicted of petty theft, residential burglary, transportation of marijuana, and escaping from prison.

This is not the life story of your average hard-working American.

Moreover, the people of California voted for the "THREE STRIKES LAW", the law was passed by a DEMOCRATIC-MAJORITY in the Cali Legislature, AND..... Andrade was one of the VERY FEW people in prison to ACTUALLY GET SCOTUS to review his case, in Lockyer v. Andrade, 538 U.S. 63 (2003).

And SCOTUS found the California's "THREE STRIKES LAW" PERFECTLY CONSTITUTIONAL, and NOT a violation of the U.S. Constitution's 8th Amendment as the incarcerated criminal Andrade claimed.

So not only do I SUPPORT "THREE STRIKES LAWS", but so do the people of California, the DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY in the California Legislature, and SCOTUS.

So if you do not support "THREE STRIKES LAWS", you are apparently in the distinct minority.

And if YOU ever get all your stuff stolen, or your house burgled, or robbed on the street, or are the victim of another crime, I have no doubt that you will change your tune very quickly.

It's one thing to read about a crime, and it's a totally different thing when you feel the pain so personally because you are the victim of the crime.

The only complaint I have with the "THREE STRIKES LAWS" is that unfortunately, NOT all 50 states have them on the books (yet).

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#17 Aug 8, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>No, moron, I am saying even those who backed the 3 strikes law realize it was far too draconian. A lot of offenders are in for almost minor crimes, stealing a DVD or something, or low level drug offenders, who should be in rehab instead of prison. Do you really think someone like that is as bad a sex murderer or rapist? It is breaking the state and you know it.
The federal government has a "THREE STRIKES LAW" and so do more than 20 states. It's perfectly moral and constitutional.

MOST Americans do NOT commit crimes. It's the 0.1% of the people who do, and do so on a regular basis, that screws things up in so many ways for the average law-abiding American. These are PERSISTENT FELONS. NOT a one-time tape-stealer.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#18 Aug 8, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>No, moron, I am saying even those who backed the 3 strikes law realize it was far too draconian. A lot of offenders are in for almost minor crimes, stealing a DVD or something, or low level drug offenders, who should be in rehab instead of prison. Do you really think someone like that is as bad a sex murderer or rapist? It is breaking the state and you know it.
Also, you seem to make it sound like that only a single person a judge, decided to send him away for life, and that was that.

UNTRUE.

Not only did the citizenry of California approve this law thru referendum, but the DEMOCRATIC-MAJORITY California Legislature passed the law, and have never seen a reason to repeal it.

And his case was examined first in the California trial court, then the California appeals court, then the federal district court, then the federal appeals court..... AND THEN SCOTUS !

And ALL THESE PROFESSIONAL LEGAL PEOPLE, i.e. the legislators, the district attorney, judges, justices, etc., they ALL found the law perfectly constitutional.

If you don't think the law is constitutional, then you are in a distinct minority, AND your belief runs counter to the wishes and beliefs of the people of California who are tired of being constantly victimized by criminals like Andrade. He made a choice to be a serial tape-stealer amongst other things. He threw the dice. He lost. He should have been prepared to face the consequences.

So I have no sympathies for this criminal, nor others like him.

And getting back to the story at hand here, this serial church-defacer should go to prison for a long time.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#19 Aug 8, 2013
Right. I want to incarcerate a guy for the rest of his life--at a cost of $45,000 annually--because he stole some videos and smoked some marijuana.

I've lived through a couple of house break-ins. As unpleasant as it is, I haven't spent the rest of my life hoping for unremitting vengeance on the punks who did it. I leave eternal damnation to the Lord. That's His provenance.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#20 Aug 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, you seem to make it sound like that only a single person a judge, decided to send him away for life, and that was that.
UNTRUE.
Not only did the citizenry of California approve this law thru referendum, but the DEMOCRATIC-MAJORITY California Legislature passed the law, and have never seen a reason to repeal it.
And his case was examined first in the California trial court, then the California appeals court, then the federal district court, then the federal appeals court..... AND THEN SCOTUS !
And ALL THESE PROFESSIONAL LEGAL PEOPLE, i.e. the legislators, the district attorney, judges, justices, etc., they ALL found the law perfectly constitutional.
If you don't think the law is constitutional, then you are in a distinct minority, AND your belief runs counter to the wishes and beliefs of the people of California who are tired of being constantly victimized by criminals like Andrade. He made a choice to be a serial tape-stealer amongst other things. He threw the dice. He lost. He should have been prepared to face the consequences.
So I have no sympathies for this criminal, nor others like him.
And getting back to the story at hand here, this serial church-defacer should go to prison for a long time.
Oh, and this will be paid for by.......... I am still waiting you to reply, without one of your tedious scattered fogging answers.

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