Jamaica Church Leaders Rally For Anti-Sodomy Law

Jun 23, 2013 Full story: EDGE 120

Several church pastors in Jamaica led a revival meeting Sunday to oppose efforts to overturn the Caribbean country's anti-sodomy law and turn back what they see as increasing acceptance of homosexuality.

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Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#110 Jun 26, 2013
Again...your way of saying 'I talk shit...I have NO proof of what I'm saying...but what I'm saying is true, and what other people post on the web, to provide real life educational references for others to learn from are all full of shit', right cpeter1313? LMFAO!

How about this, cpeter1313, since you are not only saying that I'm wrong about Santeria and Obeah, but you are also saying that another poster (caribbean and proud) is wrong also, though you are not able to come up with any proof or links that support your comments that not only is Santeria present in Jamaica, but that Santeria has also GROWN in Jamaica exponentially over the last two decades, cpeter1313...Amuse us all here...name your encyclopedia, that you find credible, and I'm sure that you will find that what has been told to you by two posters on this thread, as well as through the links that I provided for your reading pleasure, as well as your encyclopedia of choice, will ALL have the same correlating information about Santeria and Obeah...but you will again reject anything that does not compliment your wild imagination and the voices in your head, that you are convinced are your Santeria friends. I guess you will also say that it doesn't matter that I have been to Jamaica NUMEROUS TIMES to back up what I'm saying in my comments about Santeria and Obeah, that my family stretches back GENERATIONS in Jamaica, of whom all know Jamaica, and have never heard any of the bullshit that you are talking about where it comes to Santeria becoming a growing trend in Jamaica over the last 20 years, and that many of my relatives actually have served in the JCF and government positions, and NONE of them have come across any Jamaicans that practiced Santeria...I won't put that past you, though I will say that I have come across some Jamaicans (not many, but some) in my lifetime that practiced Obeah, and the same claims have been made by some of my relatives in Jamaica, so, when it comes to REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES, I'm going to run with the information that I get from TRUE Jamaicans, not from gay bigots like yourself, that have NEVER been to Jamaica. You see, cpeter1313, I didn't only take what my relatives were telling me for the truth...I have also GONE to Jamaica NUMEROUS TIMES in order to confirm the truths that my relatives have told me about myself! Can you say that YOU have gone to Jamaica to confirm the stories that you have heard from the voice..er,'friends' of yours? I'll take that as a NO! LOL!

Drinking too much Diet Pepsi straight out of aluminum cans has been rumoured to cause delusions and Alzheimer's disease, old chap...I suggest you go to the doctor and tell your doctor about the voices that you continue to hear, of which you are convinced are your Santeria friends, telling you that their religion has flourished in Jamaica over the past 20 years! LMFAO!

Maybe one of your Santeria friends cast a spell on you...may explain why you are such a dimwit!

;)

Got no fantasies about your sex life...I got my own, and it's GREAT! I find it amusing that you see the facts that I relay back to you as 'tantrums'...that may explain why you are unemployed and uneducated, as you likely curse everybody out that attempt to teach you something, by claiming that they are having temper tantrums...ROFL!
cpeter1313 wrote:
Let's see; I don't have an internet link to a group that would be arrested if their identities became known--but have real-world knowledge. You have websites, none of which say what you say they do, and no actual real-world knowledge.
Your fantasies about my sex life are amusing, in a clinical way. Your tantrums, less so.
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caribbean and proud

UK

#111 Jun 26, 2013
cpeter And I'm to believe someone who thinks bokors can
Santerians may not be openly practicing, but my santeran sources certainly have more knowledge about it than some posters here.

that s ur problem if u don t believe. and what about cesaruis narcis the zombie from haiti. wade davis and another lady from belguim met him. watch the videos on youtube and read the book of wade davis about the zombification.u never hear about lougarou in haiti and soucouyant who can enter in ur house like a ball of fire in ur house and suck ur blood those things happen a lot in dominica and trinidad. u need to travel in the caribbean.read on internet the folklore of trinidad about douens,diabless etc...
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#112 Jun 26, 2013
caribbean and proud wrote:
cpeter And I'm to believe someone who thinks bokors can
Santerians may not be openly practicing, but my santeran sources certainly have more knowledge about it than some posters here.
that s ur problem if u don t believe. and what about cesaruis narcis the zombie from haiti. wade davis and another lady from belguim met him. watch the videos on youtube and read the book of wade davis about the zombification.u never hear about lougarou in haiti and soucouyant who can enter in ur house like a ball of fire in ur house and suck ur blood those things happen a lot in dominica and trinidad. u need to travel in the caribbean.read on internet the folklore of trinidad about douens,diabless etc...
He WON'T read that, caribbean and proud...like I said, cpeter1313 is a gay bigot! The most disgraceful type of gay person you can find on this planet, that actually reinforces the hate other people have for LGBT people, which is sad, because it is a small minority like cpeter1313 that ruin the good reputations of stand-up LGBT people on this planet. caribbean and proud...not ALL LGBT people are like cpeter1313...only a handful of the bunch are like cpeter1313...please don't mind this ignorant asshole's lack of intelligence...he doesn't speak for LGBT people...he simply talks shit, because he likes hearing the sound of his own voice, and giving himself a pat on the head when he figures he has said something that he finds he can validate by being the loudest freak on the block.

You have to love how an idiot like cpeter1313 will try to discredit every bit of information you throw in his direction in relation to Santeria and Obeah in the Caribbean, however, he is intent on having people believe his stupid ass on a statement he can't corroborate, wherein he states that Santeria has grown in Jamaica over the last 20 years. Maybe he didn't see that Jamaica has THE MOST CHURCHES PER SQUARE MILE IN THE WORLD. Jamaica is a highly religious place, and I could always refer cpeter1313 back to Wikipedia, however cpeter1313 doesn't find Wikipedia credible, because his claim is that other people place information onto Wikipedia. Well, cpeter1313, practically every book, webpage and internet link was gathered up by someone, and placed where it is, for somebody else to gain knowledge from...are you saying that what you read in American history books about WWII was a lie? LMFAO! Maybe your father was actually a WAR CRIMINAL...how are you going to know the TRUTH, unless you go to where your father was supposedly deployed, kid?

cpeter1313...the GOOD thing about Wikipedia is that the people that provide information on certain subjects on Wikipedia usually have to post footnotes as a reference as to where they received their information, in order to post it on Wikipedia. You should check out THOSE footnotes, before you deem Wikipedia as a non-credible source of information! Now you are right in saying that not ALL the information that has been posted on Wikipedia has been correct, and to be honest, there are ways of addressing that...that is why other people contact Wikipedia, submit their gripes about certain posted information that other people posted on Wikipedia, and then reference their sources of information, in hopes of clearing up the misconceptions they believe have been posted on Wikipedia, in an attempt at enlightening the masses that flock to Wikipedia.

So what am I saying in my last paragraph, cpeter1313? IF you have a legitimate argument against information posted on Wikipedia about Santeria (since you are such a budding Santeria follower), and you know so much about the growth of Santeria in Jamaica (as you have been there many times to witness this...because your sources would NEVER lie to you, right?), then put your money where your mouth is, submit your information to Wikipedia, and clear the air with everybody on the subject of Santeria, especially in Jamaica.

Otherwise, STFU! You know shit!
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#113 Jun 26, 2013
My...I missed THIS comment of yours, cpeter1313...

WELL...IF you believe that Jamaica makes Russia look like San Francisco, then why haven't you gone to Russia yet?

The world IS a dump, cpeter1313...how far from your residence is the nearest nuclear waste dump? Trying to dispose of that nuclear waste in ghetto communities and Indian reservations? Oh...and how far is the nearest landfill from your residence, cpeter1313? How far is the nearest sour gas facility from your residence? How far is the nearest sewer treatment plant from your residence? Can you even drink the water straight out of the river that is nearest to you, cpeter1313? What toxins and chemicals are big companies disposing into the air, lakes, rivers and communities, cpeter1313, and do you know how many big companies are doing so, and what the effects are of these big companies doing so?

But you believe that the world is not a dump, right cpeter1313...say hello to us from Saint Petersburg, Russia come next month, alright? Cool!
cpeter1313 wrote:
Jamaica is a cesspool of ignorance and religious hatred; they make russia look like san francisco.
The world is not a dump.
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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#114 Jun 26, 2013
You sad, stupid homonculus. So WW2 was all about africa? Of course it was. Hitler and the rest of the axis were minor players?

Why not come back when you've grown up?
Blacktigershark wrote:
Interesting that you make the comment about how I make up crap and scribe it to you...I was taking YOUR lead, and doing what you routinely do with much more finesse! Or did you forget the whole 'Go fuck yourself' comment, and the implication that you made about me and children? I guess when the tables are flipped on you, you don't particularly like it that much, do you? Typical of a hypocritical gay bigot like yourself...I had something to say to you that I recall you saying earlier...it went a little something like this...GO FUCK YOURSELF!
:D
When I speak about WWII, I'm talking about the war that was fought in AFRICA between the Axis and Allies...did your father serve in AFRICA, or was he isolated to fighting America's imperialistic war against Japan? You only know what your government in America tells you is important about WWII...bet you don't even know why Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, do you cpeter1313?
WWII was MORE than just Hirohito and Hitler...only an apathetic American could come up with a STUPID comment like that, where it comes to describing what WWII was all about. If you take a constructive look at the history of each African country, and see how many times these countries were snatched by one imperialist country to the next, you would see why WWII was bound to happen, retard! But then, you know so much about Santeria, because that MUST have been the common link between ALL the African tribes in Africa, before various imperialist powers decided to snatch their group of slaves from opposite ends of the African continent, right cpeter1313? Come on, cpeter1313...say that Santeria is the COMMON religion of each and every African tribe, because if you say it, it MUST be true, right dumbass? LOL! Educate yourself some more on WWII IN AFRICA...that may give you some insight as to why WWII had to happen!
When did I ever say that my name was 'blacktigershark'? NEVER DID...but you like to assume things, don't you? That's quite JUVENILE of you, cpeter1313!
:)
<quoted text>

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#115 Jun 26, 2013
I really don't care where your ratbag family is from; unless they were santerian, they wouldn't KNOW if someone was. Your own pitiful sources even say the uninitiated aren't let into the group or even know they exist.

For someone who supposedly knows all about jamaica, you seem curiously ignorant of the entrenched homophobia here. Or, more likely, you see nothing wrong with it. When other countries grant asylum based on such cultural fascism, the problem is very real indeed.

If jamaica is such a paradise, why do you live in canada, btw?
Blacktigershark wrote:
Again...your way of saying 'I talk shit...I have NO proof of what I'm saying...but what I'm saying is true, and what other people post on the web, to provide real life educational references for others to learn from are all full of shit', right cpeter1313? LMFAO!
How about this, cpeter1313, since you are not only saying that I'm wrong about Santeria and Obeah, but you are also saying that another poster (caribbean and proud) is wrong also, though you are not able to come up with any proof or links that support your comments that not only is Santeria present in Jamaica, but that Santeria has also GROWN in Jamaica exponentially over the last two decades, cpeter1313...Amuse us all here...name your encyclopedia, that you find credible, and I'm sure that you will find that what has been told to you by two posters on this thread, as well as through the links that I provided for your reading pleasure, as well as your encyclopedia of choice, will ALL have the same correlating information about Santeria and Obeah...but you will again reject anything that does not compliment your wild imagination and the voices in your head, that you are convinced are your Santeria friends. I guess you will also say that it doesn't matter that I have been to Jamaica NUMEROUS TIMES to back up what I'm saying in my comments about Santeria and Obeah, that my family stretches back GENERATIONS in Jamaica, of whom all know Jamaica, and have never heard any of the bullshit that you are talking about where it comes to Santeria becoming a growing trend in Jamaica over the last 20 years, and that many of my relatives actually have served in the JCF and government positions, and NONE of them have come across any Jamaicans that practiced Santeria...I won't put that past you, though I will say that I have come across some Jamaicans (not many, but some) in my lifetime that practiced Obeah, and the same claims have been made by some of my relatives in Jamaica, so, when it comes to REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES, I'm going to run with the information that I get from TRUE Jamaicans, not from gay bigots like yourself, that have NEVER been to Jamaica. You see, cpeter1313, I didn't only take what my relatives were telling me for the truth...I have also GONE to Jamaica NUMEROUS TIMES in order to confirm the truths that my relatives have told me about myself! Can you say that YOU have gone to Jamaica to confirm the stories that you have heard from the voice..er,'friends' of yours? I'll take that as a NO! LOL!
Drinking too much Diet Pepsi straight out of aluminum cans has been rumoured to cause delusions and Alzheimer's disease, old chap...I suggest you go to the doctor and tell your doctor about the voices that you continue to hear, of which you are convinced are your Santeria friends, telling you that their religion has flourished in Jamaica over the past 20 years! LMFAO!
Maybe one of your Santeria friends cast a spell on you...may explain why you are such a dimwit!
;)
Got no fantasies about your sex life...I got my own, and it's GREAT! I find it amusing that you see the facts that I relay back to you as 'tantrums'...that may explain why you are unemployed and uneducated, as you likely curse everybody out that attempt to teach you something, by claiming that they are having temper tantrums...ROFL!
<quoted text>

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#116 Jun 26, 2013
It's "Clairvius Narcisse" and it happens to be one of the bet-researched cases of a zombie. And that research showed that he was not the walking dead but a victim of neurotoxins administered to fake death and resurrections. The same used to be done with curare.

Loups garou are werewolves, the word bastardized to include virtually any apres-nuit entity, and no cases have been proven. Soucouyants? Again, no proof. You'd think people would notice a flying fireball.

Superstitons are superstition, be they carribean or christian.
caribbean and proud wrote:
cpeter And I'm to believe someone who thinks bokors can
Santerians may not be openly practicing, but my santeran sources certainly have more knowledge about it than some posters here.
that s ur problem if u don t believe. and what about cesaruis narcis the zombie from haiti. wade davis and another lady from belguim met him. watch the videos on youtube and read the book of wade davis about the zombification.u never hear about lougarou in haiti and soucouyant who can enter in ur house like a ball of fire in ur house and suck ur blood those things happen a lot in dominica and trinidad. u need to travel in the caribbean.read on internet the folklore of trinidad about douens,diabless etc...

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#117 Jun 26, 2013
Clearly, you flunked the analogy portion of the SAT's or whatever you have in your locale.

That there is waste in the world does not make it a dump; that;s childish. There are also vast tracts of pristine forest and wildlands. Now, jamaica is a dump, maybe...
Blacktigershark wrote:
My...I missed THIS comment of yours, cpeter1313...
WELL...IF you believe that Jamaica makes Russia look like San Francisco, then why haven't you gone to Russia yet?
The world IS a dump, cpeter1313...how far from your residence is the nearest nuclear waste dump? Trying to dispose of that nuclear waste in ghetto communities and Indian reservations? Oh...and how far is the nearest landfill from your residence, cpeter1313? How far is the nearest sour gas facility from your residence? How far is the nearest sewer treatment plant from your residence? Can you even drink the water straight out of the river that is nearest to you, cpeter1313? What toxins and chemicals are big companies disposing into the air, lakes, rivers and communities, cpeter1313, and do you know how many big companies are doing so, and what the effects are of these big companies doing so?
But you believe that the world is not a dump, right cpeter1313...say hello to us from Saint Petersburg, Russia come next month, alright? Cool!
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Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#118 Jun 26, 2013
There you go AGAIN, making an assumption on what I said, rather than assessing what I'm actually trying to convey to you. This shows me that it is you that is the infant in this conversation, that needs to be told things several times over, because you lack basic understanding of grand events.

Africa was a BIG part of WWII...now, let's see if you are able to sum up WWII in ONE word, that would summarize the constant dispute between the Axis and Allies. Doubt YOU could do that, as it seems as if you are focused squarely on Hitler and Hirohito being the key figures of WWII! Your apathy amuses me to no end! Wars on this planet are STILL being fought TODAY, because of that KEY word that basically sums up the reason WWII actually occurred. Considering that you are American, I shudder to think who you believe WON WWII in Europe...let's leave that to your next post, eunuch!

The mention of Africa in this conversation comes from your idiotic belief that Santeria must have been the COMMON African religion shared by ALL the tribes in Africa. Considering that Africa was divided by colonial powers CENTURIES BEFORE WWII, it would make sense why these colonial powers withdrew DIFFERENT slaves from DIFFERENT tribes from DIFFERENT parts of Africa, to redistribute to DIFFERENT colonies under their empires. But I suppose you are going to say that the Yoruba and the Igbo had THE SAME religion, spoke THE SAME language, and carried the SAME religion to DIFFERENT colonies that were controlled by DIFFERENT colonial powers, right cpeter1313? And your reasoning behind this statement of yours would be that your father told you this was fact, because he fought in WWII? ROFL!

Don't be fooled into thinking that your boyfriend loves you for your mind, cpeter1313...there are pumpkins that are hooked up to electrodes that have been known to have more intelligence than you currently possess, kid (don't cry about that last line, as I was speaking in a figurative sense...but on the real, you dumber than a three legged mule)! LOL!
cpeter1313 wrote:
You sad, stupid homonculus. So WW2 was all about africa? Of course it was. Hitler and the rest of the axis were minor players?
Why not come back when you've grown up?
<quoted text>
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#119 Jun 26, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I really don't care where your ratbag family is from; unless they were santerian, they wouldn't KNOW if someone was. Your own pitiful sources even say the uninitiated aren't let into the group or even know they exist.
For someone who supposedly knows all about jamaica, you seem curiously ignorant of the entrenched homophobia here. Or, more likely, you see nothing wrong with it. When other countries grant asylum based on such cultural fascism, the problem is very real indeed.
If jamaica is such a paradise, why do you live in canada, btw?
So, basically, what you are saying that ANY source that doesn't accredit YOUR account of things is not to be relied on, however, the only thing YOU can offer to back up your claims is the words of others, of whom nobody on this forum can verify the truth of their statements. And we are also supposed to believe that the far side of the moon is made of blue cheese, because somebody said that they saw this for themselves, and nobody can verify this person's trip to the moon. Okay, gotcha! Now I KNOW that I'm dealing with a nutcase! On to your next pool of tears...

Homophobia is not as prevalent in Jamaica as you would like to believe, and I can say that because not only have I been to Jamaica MANY times, I also have gay relatives LIVING in Jamaica, and they have never come under the homophobic attacks that you say are entrenched in Jamaica. As a matter of fact, homophobia is no greater in Jamaica than it is in America, and I challenge you to PROVE to me different. I remember asking you to show me even ONE case where an LGBT person has been incarcerated for engaging in CONSENSUAL sodomy/buggery in Jamaica...you have failed to do so. I also like the fact that you AUTOMATICALLY jump to the conclusion that laws in Jamaica in relation to sodomy/buggery laws are present to discriminate against LGBT people ONLY, when a gay man like yourself, that CLAIMS to be educated, should know that sodomy/buggery can AND HAS been engaged in by HETEROSEXUAL people (not MY thing, but for some heterosexuals, it floats their boat)! Your ability to immediately resort to the lowest common denominator goes to show how ignorant you are, and it is that reason that amendments to the sodomy/buggery laws in Jamaica have been shelved for so long...because of people like YOU! Rather than coming to common ground with other people, that are not gay, that engage in acts of sodomy and buggery, and trying to reason with them that CONSENSUAL acts of sodomy and buggery between adults, behind closed doors, is not the place for government to stick their business in, it is people LIKE YOU that ATTACK the very same people that would have helped you had you approached them in a more respectable manner!

Now, let's talk about amnesty granted to gay Jamaicans. In the past, countries granted more amnesty to gay Jamaicans, because initial belief, spread by gay bigots like yourself, was that homosexuals were being hunted down and killed daily by Jamaicans in Jamaica. Subsequent investigations into the allegations that gay bigots have made about Jamaica have turned out to be malicious in most cases, and it has been determined that most times, violent acts against LGBT people in Jamaica are committed by other LGBT people in Jamaica! Respected international investigators, that have taken up scores of complaints from LGBT Jamaicans, have attested to this fact...you just don't acknowledge this fact, do you? Maybe you should look at comment 59 of mine AGAIN, and READ those links I sent you, some from THE SAME sources you tried to use to justify that amnesty is being granted to gay Jamaicans, because there is an entrenched homophobia problem in Jamaica.

A quarter of Jamaica's population (that being 750,000 people) are LGBT persons. To say that ONLY 28 people have been given asylum in America in a given year, based on your claim, is something that even your government is saying doesn't exist, kid!
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#120 Jun 26, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Clearly, you flunked the analogy portion of the SAT's or whatever you have in your locale.
That there is waste in the world does not make it a dump; that;s childish. There are also vast tracts of pristine forest and wildlands. Now, jamaica is a dump, maybe...
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Yet, you have NEVER been to Jamaica, so how do you know that Jamaica is a dump? Unless you are stating that Jamaica is an AMMO dump for American made weapons...then I would be in FULL agreement with you!

;)

Shouldn't you be rejoicing about the Supreme Court decision overturning the DOMA act? By the way, I don't condone the persecution of LGBT people anywhere in the world. I suppose if Jamaica was big like America, and LGBT people were being persecuted in one part of Jamaica, they could always find asylum in another part of Jamaica, like some LGBT Americans find in cities like San Francisco.

I suppose the other thing is that no matter the sexual orientation of the American, not many countries would want to open their doors to yet another American...I know that Canada really is tightening their borders to Americans, especially now! Suppose that is why 1812 was such a WONDERFUL year for the Great White North, huh cpeter1313? LOL!
caribbean and proud

UK

#121 Jun 26, 2013
cpeterIt's "Clairvius Narcisse" and it happens to be one of the bet-researched cases of a zombie. And that research showed that he was not the walking dead but a victim of neurotoxins administered to fake death and resurrections. The same used to be done with curare.
Loups garou are werewolves, the word bastardized to include virtually any apres-nuit entity, and no cases have been proven. Soucouyants? Again, no proof. You'd think people would notice a flying fireball.
Superstitons are superstition, be they carribean or christian.

c peter claivius was a zombie.during the fake death ur between life and death it s because god didn t accept u.but the bokor have 3 days for wake u up after it s too late...
a lot of people in the east side of the have seen soucouyant and the diabless.
in west indies a lot strange things happen and u will believe when u will see..
most of the west indians are christians <60%>...
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#123 Jul 15, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
USUALLY? Yeah, let's go somewhere where, chances are, we might not be attacked for being gay. There's a selling point...
Nothing locally will change until there is an impact on the travel bucks received by visitors. The jamaican authorities have to change the laws(and enforce those laws) in order to win the trust of visitors.
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Right...just remember what you said in your above post about going somewhere where you might not be attacked for being gay, okay cpeter1313!

Also remember, that when attacks happen on LGBT visitors to Jamaica, that they can, and USUALLY, are committed by the LGBT locals in Jamaica, that you LGBT visitors claim to care about, but really do nothing for, while ignoring their transgressions (the bad group of LGBT locals in Jamaica, that is, as not ALL LGBT Jamaicans are ruthless, violent, boisterous thieves)! Let's reference a source that you have relied on in one of your past comments, in order to confirm what I, and others, that ACTUALLY KNOW what is happening in Jamaica, have been telling your ignorant ass from the start!!!...

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/JFLAG-hit...

Now...what's your excuse for the small group of LGBT Jamaican criminals that are rowdy, violent and thieving, cpeter1313? Not even J-FLAG condones or defends their behaviour...so why do you???

If you REALLY were one to follow up on the plight of LGBT Jamaicans in Jamaica (like you claim that you are able to follow up on Santeria followers in Jamaica...LOL!), then you would know about the obvious monetary issues that J-FLAG continually talks about where it comes to them not really being able to assist LGBT Jamaicans, and rather than blaming the actions that are carried out by LGBT Jamaicans (on MOST occasions of violence against other LGBT Jamaicans) on heterosexual Jamaicans, cpeter1313, you would find a way to HELP J-FLAG ensure a better future for LGBT Jamaicans in Jamaica, by organizing a worldwide fundraiser for J-FLAG, and bringing about awareness about J-FLAG to potential foreign donors, so that J-FLAG could actually make a difference for many of the displaced and destitute LGBT Jamaicans!

Stop with the scapegoating, cpeter1313, get off your lazy Indiana ass, and actually DO SOMETHING for the LGBT people you CLAIM to care about in other parts of the world, that you feel are in a less fortunate position than you are! I'm sure that a yearly contribution of $100 from just YOURSELF would make a SIGNIFICANT difference in helping J-FLAG perform their mission in Jamaica for the LGBT Jamaicans that you claim to care about...and just think how much more of a difference could be made if EVERY critic of Jamaica, in reference to the plight of LGBT Jamaicans are concerned, also donated $100 a year to J-FLAG to help disadvantaged LGBT Jamaicans in Jamaica, rather than bitching and scapegoating, cpeter1313? The problem that you all are whining about would not exist, because you would have helped J-FLAG give LGBT Jamaicans a home to live in...and that is the fundamental starting point that ALL these disadvantaged LGBT Jamaicans NEED from hypocritical bigots like yourself, cpeter1313!

But do the predictable, and try to come back with a witty response, cpeter1313, which will have virtually no bearing or effect on me, while you completely ignore everything I have told you about helping the LGBT Jamaicans you claim to care about, just like most of you hypocritical bigots...THAT will show those LGBT Jamaicans for being born, raised and disadvantaged in Jamaica...by then, you may as well say that it was THEIR choice to be there, so to hell with them, right cpeter1313??? SMH!

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#125 Jul 15, 2013
Blacktigershark wrote:
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Right...just remember what you said in your above post about going somewhere where you might not be attacked for being gay, okay cpeter1313!
Also remember, that when attacks happen on LGBT visitors to Jamaica, that they can, and USUALLY, are committed by the LGBT locals in Jamaica, that you LGBT visitors claim to care about, but really do nothing for, while ignoring their transgressions (the bad group of LGBT locals in Jamaica, that is, as not ALL LGBT Jamaicans are ruthless, violent, boisterous thieves)! Let's reference a source that you have relied on in one of your past comments, in order to confirm what I, and others, that ACTUALLY KNOW what is happening in Jamaica, have been telling your ignorant ass from the start!!!...
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/JFLAG-hit...
Now...what's your excuse for the small group of LGBT Jamaican criminals that are rowdy, violent and thieving, cpeter1313? Not even J-FLAG condones or defends their behaviour...so why do you???
If you REALLY were one to follow up on the plight of LGBT Jamaicans in Jamaica (like you claim that you are able to follow up on Santeria followers in Jamaica...LOL!), then you would know about the obvious monetary issues that J-FLAG continually talks about where it comes to them not really being able to assist LGBT Jamaicans, and rather than blaming the actions that are carried out by LGBT Jamaicans (on MOST occasions of violence against other LGBT Jamaicans) on heterosexual Jamaicans, cpeter1313, you would find a way to HELP J-FLAG ensure a better future for LGBT Jamaicans in Jamaica, by organizing a worldwide fundraiser for J-FLAG, and bringing about awareness about J-FLAG to potential foreign donors, so that J-FLAG could actually make a difference for many of the displaced and destitute LGBT Jamaicans!
Stop with the scapegoating, cpeter1313, get off your lazy Indiana ass, and actually DO SOMETHING for the LGBT people you CLAIM to care about in other parts of the world, that you feel are in a less fortunate position than you are! I'm sure that a yearly contribution of $100 from just YOURSELF would make a SIGNIFICANT difference in helping J-FLAG perform their mission in Jamaica for the LGBT Jamaicans that you claim to care about...and just think how much more of a difference could be made if EVERY critic of Jamaica, in reference to the plight of LGBT Jamaicans are concerned, also donated $100 a year to J-FLAG to help disadvantaged LGBT Jamaicans in Jamaica, rather than bitching and scapegoating, cpeter1313? The problem that you all are whining about would not exist, because you would have helped J-FLAG give LGBT Jamaicans a home to live in...and that is the fundamental starting point that ALL these disadvantaged LGBT Jamaicans NEED from hypocritical bigots like yourself, cpeter1313!
But do the predictable, and try to come back with a witty response, cpeter1313, which will have virtually no bearing or effect on me, while you completely ignore everything I have told you about helping the LGBT Jamaicans you claim to care about, just like most of you hypocritical bigots...THAT will show those LGBT Jamaicans for being born, raised and disadvantaged in Jamaica...by then, you may as well say that it was THEIR choice to be there, so to hell with them, right cpeter1313??? SMH!
Too long, I glazed over by the second paragraph.
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#126 Jul 15, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Too long, I glazed over by the second paragraph.
You right...it was TOO LONG for YOU to read over THE TRUE plight of LGBT Jamaicans in Jamaica, which just goes to prove my point, that gay activists like yourself really don't give a fuck about LGBT Jamaicans, but only want to bitch about what you read off of bigoted and biased links off of the internet about the plight of LGBT Jamaicans, while in REALITY, you hypocritical gay activists will NEVER look into the TRUE plight of LGBT Jamaicans, and NEVER contribute ANY form of support (financial or otherwise) to assist these LGBT Jamaicans you all falsely claim to care about, so as to further your agenda. I TOTALLY understand your position now, Curteese...thanks for CLARIFYING that for us all.

I like it when people like yourself tell me that I'm right, in their own convoluted way...THANKS again, Curteese! I now know the mindset of many of you supposed concerned gay activists outside of Jamaica...glad that you confirmed what I have been saying all along about many of you hypocritical gay activists, Curteese!

:)

Feel free to respond, because I KNOW you are dying to do so...hopefully, my last post wasn't too much for you to handle or comprehend! LMFAO!

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#127 Jul 15, 2013
Blacktigershark wrote:
<quoted text>
You right...it was TOO LONG for YOU to read over THE TRUE plight of LGBT Jamaicans in Jamaica, which just goes to prove my point, that gay activists like yourself really don't give a fuck about LGBT Jamaicans, but only want to bitch about what you read off of bigoted and biased links off of the internet about the plight of LGBT Jamaicans, while in REALITY, you hypocritical gay activists will NEVER look into the TRUE plight of LGBT Jamaicans, and NEVER contribute ANY form of support (financial or otherwise) to assist these LGBT Jamaicans you all falsely claim to care about, so as to further your agenda. I TOTALLY understand your position now, Curteese...thanks for CLARIFYING that for us all.
I like it when people like yourself tell me that I'm right, in their own convoluted way...THANKS again, Curteese! I now know the mindset of many of you supposed concerned gay activists outside of Jamaica...glad that you confirmed what I have been saying all along about many of you hypocritical gay activists, Curteese!
:)
Feel free to respond, because I KNOW you are dying to do so...hopefully, my last post wasn't too much for you to handle or comprehend! LMFAO!
uh, if it's so great there and you are so worried, what are doing in CANADA? Why aren't you in Jamaica DOING something instead of sitting up north and yelling at others for not acting for YOUR country? Tend your own garden and then get back to me for help.
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#128 Jul 15, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>uh, if it's so great there and you are so worried, what are doing in CANADA? Why aren't you in Jamaica DOING something instead of sitting up north and yelling at others for not acting for YOUR country? Tend your own garden and then get back to me for help.
I do for my family in Jamaica, thank you very much, and I don't have any Jamaican relatives of mine in Jamaica that are either persecuting LGBT Jamaicans, or are being persecuted for being LGBT in Jamaica. THAT is YOUR quip, not mine, as I know THE TRUTH, and you don't have any perspective on this issue, though you are the one yelling about what is in Jamaica, when you haven't been there, and don't know a damn about Jamaica, or what happens to LGBT Jamaicans in Jamaica, and by whom!

This has nothing to do about me telling others to act for my country, Curteese...maybe you NEED to reread my previous post that you skimmed through, as I tried to make sure that I didn't leave ANYTHING out, where it comes to hypocritical gay activists like yourself, kid! What I said is that it is wannabe gay activists like yourself, that decry the violence that you all highlight happen to LGBT Jamaicans, and attributing ALL the violence that occurs against LGBT people in Jamaica against heterosexual Jamaicans, when that is the FURTHEST thing from THE TRUTH! I also said that when other people from an organization, that was formulated by REAL gay activists, like J-FLAG, ask for assistance from wannabe gay activists like yourself, Curteese, your dollars don't back up your backtalk, and THAT is what makes you, and all other wannabe gay activists like yourself FAKES!

I am all for LGBT people having certain rights, but unlike you, I will admit that I am not a gay activist. When are YOU going to quit wasting your time blogging on forums, pretending that you actually care about LGBT people in other parts of the world, that are in less fortunate surroundings, when in REALITY, you don't really give a damn at all???!!!

STOP FOOLING YOURSELF!
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#129 Jul 15, 2013
Oh...and by the way...I should be in Jamaica in a week and a half, if you were simply looking for a guide to run you all about Jamaica, so that you can see that what you are saying about Jamaica, that you are paraphrasing from the bigoted websites that you get your biased information from, is not remotely anywhere close to truth, Curteese!

But hey, Curteese...I will understand if you cannot afford to take a trip to Jamaica...things are more expensive in Jamaica than Ireland...better believe that!

;)
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>uh, if it's so great there and you are so worried, what are doing in CANADA? Why aren't you in Jamaica DOING something instead of sitting up north and yelling at others for not acting for YOUR country? Tend your own garden and then get back to me for help.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#130 Jul 15, 2013
Blacktigershark wrote:
Oh...and by the way...I should be in Jamaica in a week and a half, if you were simply looking for a guide to run you all about Jamaica, so that you can see that what you are saying about Jamaica, that you are paraphrasing from the bigoted websites that you get your biased information from, is not remotely anywhere close to truth, Curteese!
But hey, Curteese...I will understand if you cannot afford to take a trip to Jamaica...things are more expensive in Jamaica than Ireland...better believe that!
;)
<quoted text>
Ireland? I am in CALIFORNIA. What are you yakking about?

calm down, I have no problem with you. I wish you and your country well, I am not sure what you are trying to say, but I guess you are sure passionate about it. Bye.
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#131 Jul 16, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Ireland? I am in CALIFORNIA. What are you yakking about?
calm down, I have no problem with you. I wish you and your country well, I am not sure what you are trying to say, but I guess you are sure passionate about it. Bye.
OOPS! LOL! My bad! I got you confused with snyper...don't worry...things in Jamaica are more expensive than they are in California also.

I have no issue with you as an individual...never have...just take offence to your ignorance about Jamaica, and what ACTUALLY happens in Jamaica.

Don't knock it until you have been there, man!

:)

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