Episcopal Drama Rocks SC

[Joe DeCaro]

Rick in Kansas wrote:

None of what you claim that the good Rabbi has said can be verified, even when the real good Rabbi was asked directly to do so.
If you want to deal with reality ...

When "reality" contradicts your gay world view, you can't openly challenge Stein's scholarly Hebrew without looking like the fool you really are, so instead you continue to deny what Stein himself actually said about the book of Samuel.

And posting an "open letter" on Topix is not directly contacting anyone, especially when Stein has a listed phone # and email account.

[Selecia Jones- JAX FL]

He already contacted him Joe...VIA email just like you suggested.

[MiddleWay]

Joe DeCaro wrote:

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When "reality" contradicts your gay world view, you can't openly challenge Stein's scholarly Hebrew without looking like the fool you really are, so instead you continue to deny what Stein himself actually said about the book of Samuel.
And posting an "open letter" on Topix is not directly contacting anyone, especially when Stein has a listed phone # and email account.

You idiot, there is no gay world, no roman world, no one thing world.

There are people of all kinds, the way God intended.

No wonder you stay on you computer, it helps your rose colored glasses stay on in you little bigoted tunnel, all self made by YOU.

Poor thing.....

[Joe DeCaro]

Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:

He already contacted him Joe...

Prove it.

MiddleWay wrote:

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You idiot, there is no gay world ...

Fool, it's a subculture that includes the Topix Gay/Lesbian forums, the "gay" church you attend that does same-sex ceremonies, etc.

[Besixdouze]

How does Romans 2 start off, Joe? And yeah, I don't really see how one can associate two people in today's times engaging in a loving, committed relationship with idolatry.

The real idolatry going on here is bibliolatry, which is far more dangerous. In the Episcopal Church, we don't encourage the fundamentalist, check-your-brain-at-the-door when reading the Bible thing. We are advocates of thoughtful exegetical interpretation. I'd invite you to go to any renowned school of theology and ask the biblical scholars if they think Romans 1 should be applied to our modern understanding of homosexuality. You'll probably be disappointed by the answer.

My question is, why are there always people with hatred in their hearts who want to find a group to scapegoat and use the Bible to do it? The more you persecute these people, the more you place them in solidarity with the suffering Christ.

[Joe DeCaro]

Besixdouze wrote:

How does Romans 2 start off, Joe?...

It starts only after Romans 1:24-32.

[Phil McGroen]

Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:

Arm yourself! Start your day with this! From Steven Furtick-
The 12 Audacious Faith Confessions- Pray these over yourself.
1-I am fully forgiven and free from all shame and condemnation (Romans 8:1-2, Ephesians 1:7-8, 1 John 1:9)
2-I act in audacious faith to change the world in my generation (Joshua 10:12-14, John 14:12)
3-I have no fear or anxiety; I trust in the Lord with all of my heart (Proverbs 3:5
-6, Philippians 4:6-7, 1 Peter 5:7)
4-I am able to fulfill the calling God has placed on my life (Exodus 3:9-12, Psalm 57:2, Colossians 1:24-29)
5-I am fully resourced to do everything God has called me to do (Dueteronomy 8:18, Luke 6:38, Philippians 4:13)
6-I have no insecurity, because I see myself the way God sees me (Genesis 1:26-27, Psalm 139:13-16, Ephesians 5:25-27)
7-I am a faithful spouse and a godly parent-our family is blessed (Deuteronomy 6:6-9, Ephesians 5:22-25, Colossians 3:18-19, 1 Peter 3:1-7)
8-I am completely whole-physically, mentally and emotionally (Psalm 103:1-5, Matthew 8:16-17, 2 Corinthians 5:17, 1 Peter 2:24)
9-I am increasing in influence and favor the kingdom of God (Genesis 45:4-8, 1 Samuel 2:26, Acts 2:37-47)
10-I am enabled to walk in the sacrificial love of Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:16-17, 1 John 3:16; 4:9-12)
11-I have the wisdom of the Lord concerning every decision I make (2 Chronicles 1:7-12, Proverbs 2:6, Ecclesiastes 2:26, James 1:5)
12-I am protected from all harm and evil in Jesus’ name (Genesis 50:20, Psalm 3:1-3, 2 Thessalonians 3:2-3)

So this is how HOMOSEXUALS Blaspheme the name of Christ, nullify his sacrifice on the cross, continue to live in an abomination, and claim salvation at the same time? The tell-tale phrase is that all of these statements begin with the first person pronoun.

Christ calls us to die to our sins. There is no salvation without repentance. Just as the Angels who destroyed Sodom blinded the men there preventing them from escaping their destruction, so Christ has become a "stumbling stone", "rock of offence", preventing practicing homosexuals from coming to salvation.

Homosexuals truly are "blinded by the light." Hell will be full of them and all others who reject Christ's offer of life. We'll keep you in our prayers.

[Yves]

Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:

Arm yourself! Start your day with this! From Steven Furtick-
The 12 Audacious Faith Confessions- Pray these over yourself.
1-I am fully forgiven and free from all shame and condemnation (Romans 8:1-2, Ephesians 1:7-8, 1 John 1:9)
2-I act in audacious faith to change the world in my generation (Joshua 10:12-14, John 14:12)
3-I have no fear or anxiety; I trust in the Lord with all of my heart (Proverbs 3:5
-6, Philippians 4:6-7, 1 Peter 5:7)
4-I am able to fulfill the calling God has placed on my life (Exodus 3:9-12, Psalm 57:2, Colossians 1:24-29)
5-I am fully resourced to do everything God has called me to do (Dueteronomy 8:18, Luke 6:38, Philippians 4:13)
6-I have no insecurity, because I see myself the way God sees me (Genesis 1:26-27, Psalm 139:13-16, Ephesians 5:25-27)
7-I am a faithful spouse and a godly parent-our family is blessed (Deuteronomy 6:6-9, Ephesians 5:22-25, Colossians 3:18-19, 1 Peter 3:1-7)
8-I am completely whole-physically, mentally and emotionally (Psalm 103:1-5, Matthew 8:16-17, 2 Corinthians 5:17, 1 Peter 2:24)
9-I am increasing in influence and favor the kingdom of God (Genesis 45:4-8, 1 Samuel 2:26, Acts 2:37-47)
10-I am enabled to walk in the sacrificial love of Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:16-17, 1 John 3:16; 4:9-12)
11-I have the wisdom of the Lord concerning every decision I make (2 Chronicles 1:7-12, Proverbs 2:6, Ecclesiastes 2:26, James 1:5)
12-I am protected from all harm and evil in Jesus’ name (Genesis 50:20, Psalm 3:1-3, 2 Thessalonians 3:2-3)

If you have an electric version of the scriptures, review those passages dealing with repent and repentance.

You are a fool if you think you can continue to live in open rebellion against God's many commands against all homosexual behavior and promote such sin and be held blameless by God.

Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commands."

His brother James said, "Faith without works are dead." and "By your works you are justified."

[RevKen]

Phil McGroen wrote:

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So this is how HOMOSEXUALS Blaspheme the name of Christ, nullify his sacrifice on the cross, continue to live in an abomination, and claim salvation at the same time? The tell-tale phrase is that all of these statements begin with the first person pronoun.
Christ calls us to die to our sins. There is no salvation without repentance. Just as the Angels who destroyed Sodom blinded the men there preventing them from escaping their destruction, so Christ has become a "stumbling stone", "rock of offence", preventing practicing homosexuals from coming to salvation.
Homosexuals truly are "blinded by the light." Hell will be full of them and all others who reject Christ's offer of life. We'll keep [you] in our prayers.

Rejection is it, Phil? But, promising to "pray" for them anyway?

How wonderfully condescending, and yet, fully generous of you.

Too bad you didn't come forward with these biblical snippets before she did.

But, you didn't. So, more power to her! Good work, Sel!

Rev. Ken

[Selecia Jones- JAX FL]

RevKen wrote:

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Rejection is it, Phil? But, promising to "pray" for them anyway?
How wonderfully condescending, and yet, fully generous of you.
Too bad you didn't come forward with these biblical snippets before she did.
But, you didn't. So, more power to her! Good work, Sel!
Rev. Ken

Thanks Rev Ken...these goons are something else. GOD BLESS THEIR HEARTS...which translates in the South...you are F'ed up.

[Rick in Kansas]

Joe DeCaro wrote:

When "reality" contradicts your gay world view, you can't openly challenge Stein's scholarly Hebrew without looking like the fool you really are, so instead you continue to deny what Stein himself actually said about the book of Samuel.
And posting an "open letter" on Topix is not directly contacting anyone, especially when Stein has a listed phone # and email account.

Joe dear, when are you going to realize that you have not offered us "Stein's scholarly Hebrew", because there is no proof, even from said Rabbi, that it is in fact, "Stein's scholarly Hebrew" and NOT your pathetic variety act.

I'm well aware that the good Rabbi has a publicly available email account, I wrote to him at it. Why do you imagine I keep telling you that he has yet to respond?

Sorry, but you are nothing more than a pathological liar and fraud and it appears that Rabbi Stein agrees with me.

[Joe DeCaro]

Rick in Kansas wrote:

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Joe dear, when are you going to realize that you have not offered us "Stein's scholarly Hebrew" ...

It was offered, yet you simply refuse to accept it, but if you claim it didn't come from Rabbi Stein, where did it come from?

Again, when you can't refute WHAT Stein said, you simply deny he said it.

As they say on South Park: That's so gay.

[Rick in Kansas]

It came from you and no one else. Have you no shame?

[WotMeWorry]

Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:

I adore the sanctity of marriage...I abhore the traitors and sinners of DIVORCE!

Funny how you condone homosexual relations but condemn divorce huh?

[Joe DeCaro]

Rick in Kansas wrote:

It came from you and no one else. Have you no shame?

Then according to you, I must be a Roman rabbi, or at least have a working knowledge of Hebrew, a daunting task for someone who only studied French.

The fact is that you can't accept what God, much less what Rabbi Stein has to say about homosexuality in the OT, so your lies just get bigger and bigger.

Have you no shame?

[Selecia Jones- JAX FL]

WotMeWorry wrote:

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Funny how you condone homosexual relations but condemn divorce huh?

Yeah, Jesus and I see EYE TO EYE on lots of things...ALL things actually!

[Rick in Kansas]

You have no shame.

You are nothing more than an unrepentant pathological liar and a fraud. You have repeated your rabbi ventriloquist act so often without challenge, that you have no idea what to do now that it's been proved to be a lie.

If you want to believe God hates the Gay folk, that's just another of your problems with Him, not ours. Trying to rationalize your irrational choices by blaming Him and the "thoughts" of your Rabbi dummy is just sad.

[Selecia Jones- JAX FL]

Rick in Kansas wrote:

You have no shame.
You are nothing more than an unrepentant pathological liar and a fraud. You have repeated your rabbi ventriloquist act so often without challenge, that you have no idea what to do now that it's been proved to be a lie.
If you want to believe God hates the Gay folk, that's just another of your problems with Him, not ours. Trying to rationalize your irrational choices by blaming Him and the "thoughts" of your Rabbi dummy is just sad.

There are lots of sad things in Joe DeCaro's life...living in your mother's basement at age 50 is just one of them.

[George]

Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:

<quoted text>There are lots of sad things in Joe DeCaro's life...living in your mother's basement at age 50 is just one of them.

Joe lives in Rick's mother's basement?

[Rick in Kansas]

George wrote:

Joe lives in Rick's mother's basement?

Not that I am aware of. I was just down her basement a couple of weeks ago putting away her Christmas decorations and there was nobody living there then. If he's there now, I'll have her talk to him, he clearly needs her help.