Episcopal Drama Rocks SC

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The national Episcopal church has advised South Carolina Bishop Mark Lawrence that he has "abandoned" the church as a result of his refusal to accept its teachings on gay marriage and the ordination of gay and female clergy.

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“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#774 Jan 6, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
Why would a Hebrew lesson from a real rabbi haunt me?
Because they would probably be none to pleased about your pathological lies about one of their own, but I never mentioned it dear.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
Rabbi Israel Stein (retired) said:
(statements falsely attributed to Rabbi Stein deleted)
Two days in and still no response from your friend. That is proof enough for me.

“Plays well with others.”

Since: Jun 07

LIVING WELL*THE BEST REVENGE

#775 Jan 6, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Because they would probably be none to pleased about your pathological lies about one of their own, but I never mentioned it dear.
<quoted text>Two days in and still no response from your friend. That is proof enough for me.
Just like his rant about something from the past..I googled it and found it where he is a LIAR!!!! LOVE IT!

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#776 Jan 7, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
Just like his rant about something from the past..I googled it and found it where he is a LIAR!!!! LOVE IT!
I just love how he's still trying to pretend that he hasn't been exposed as a complete and utter fraud here. If he just came out and admit that he is actually the source for his personal collection of the amazingly wide array of collective thoughts attributed to Rabbi Israel Stein (retired)*, it would be a step in the right direction.

*The day I found that he was the only known source for his "quotes" from the Rabbi, I just had too see how he had been invoking it. Amazingly enough, the Rabbi's insight seems to pop up every time Joe is attempting to defend his personal choice of Old Testament interpretations. THE Rabbi hath spake, end of discussion.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#777 Jan 7, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>
Because they would probably be none to pleased ...
"They" who, Ricky?

The only posters not pleased are homosexuals trying to portray David and Jonathan as gay lovers, but Stein refutes that perverted reintrepretation of scripture with his honest Hebrew.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#778 Jan 7, 2013
Hon, if that's what you want to believe, believe to your little heart's content, but since you are clearly not man enough to admit that you have been making up what you claim the Rabbi Says as you've gone along, THAT is what I have issue with.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#779 Jan 7, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
"They" who, Ricky?
The only posters not pleased are homosexuals trying to portray David and Jonathan as gay lovers, but Stein refutes that perverted reintrepretation of scripture with his honest Hebrew.
Honest Hebrew?

LMAO!

Aww, this one gets passed around at work!

Honest Hebrew?

Is there dishonest Hebrew?

Now i have to clean up spit out coffee, well worth it...

LOL!

Is honest Hebrew found among(st) the roman tradition of 'monastic' Scripture?

LMAO.........
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#780 Jan 7, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
"They" who, Ricky?
The only posters not pleased are homosexuals trying to portray David and Jonathan as gay lovers, but Stein refutes that perverted reintrepretation of scripture with his honest Hebrew.
Here's what Jonathan and David did:
.
++++++++++
1 Samuel 18 :1> And it came to passe when hee made an ende of speaking vnto Saul, that the soule of Ionathan was knit with the soule of Dauid, and Ionathan loued him as his owne soule.
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1 Samuel 18:3> Then Ionathan and Dauid made a couenant, because he loued him as his owne soule.
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1 Samuel 20:41> And assoone as the ladde was gone, Dauid arose out of a place toward the South, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himselfe three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, vntill Dauid exceeded.
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1 Samuel 20:42> And Ionathan said to Dauid, Goe in peace, forasmuch as wee haue sworne both of vs in the Name of the Lord, saying; The Lord be betweene me and thee, and betweene my seede and thy seede for euer. And hee arose, and departed: and Ionathan went into the citie.
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2 Samuel 1:25> How are the mightie fallen in the midst of the battell! O Ionathan, thou wast slaine in thine high places.
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2 Samuel 1:26> I am distressed for thee, my brother Ionathan, very pleasant hast thou beene vnto mee: thy loue to mee was wonderfull, passing the loue of women.
++++++++++
.
Ummmm
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Don't look kids:
.
There's two naked men laying face-down in the desert swapping seed to consummate marriage......and it is better than with women.....
.
yikes! Gitty-up camel
.
;o))
Todd

Pekin, IL

#781 Jan 7, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's what Jonathan and David did:
.
++++++++++
1 Samuel 18 :1> And it came to passe when hee made an ende of speaking vnto Saul, that the soule of Ionathan was knit with the soule of Dauid, and Ionathan loued him as his owne soule.
.
1 Samuel 18:3> Then Ionathan and Dauid made a couenant, because he loued him as his owne soule.
.
1 Samuel 20:41> And assoone as the ladde was gone, Dauid arose out of a place toward the South, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himselfe three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, vntill Dauid exceeded.
.
1 Samuel 20:42> And Ionathan said to Dauid, Goe in peace, forasmuch as wee haue sworne both of vs in the Name of the Lord, saying; The Lord be betweene me and thee, and betweene my seede and thy seede for euer. And hee arose, and departed: and Ionathan went into the citie.
.
2 Samuel 1:25> How are the mightie fallen in the midst of the battell! O Ionathan, thou wast slaine in thine high places.
.
2 Samuel 1:26> I am distressed for thee, my brother Ionathan, very pleasant hast thou beene vnto mee: thy loue to mee was wonderfull, passing the loue of women.
++++++++++
.
Ummmm
.
Don't look kids:
.
There's two naked men laying face-down in the desert swapping seed to consummate marriage......and it is better than with women.....
.
yikes! Gitty-up camel
.
;o))
How many times are your going to Spam us with the same lie?

Your filthy misinterpretation of these passages have been thoroughly discredited. The Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and says that David is innocent of such serious sin.
Todd

Pekin, IL

#782 Jan 7, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're a Pauline, big deal - I am a CHRISTIAN....
No Christian rejects a majority of the New Testament.

No Christian rejects the Bible's many commands against homosexual acts, found repeatedly in both Testaments.

You apparently have never read the Book of Acts, an extension of the Gospel of Luke. Paul was chosen by Jesus and inspired by Him. He was a major leader of the early church. You might also delve into the Didache, one of the very earliest Christian writings. It also condemns homosexual behavior, as have Christians since the beginning.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#783 Jan 7, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's what Jonathan and David did:
.
++++++++++
1 Samuel 18 :1> And it came to passe when hee made an ende of speaking vnto Saul, that the soule of Ionathan was knit with the soule of Dauid, and Ionathan loued him as his owne soule.
.
1 Samuel 18:3> Then Ionathan and Dauid made a couenant, because he loued him as his owne soule.
.
1 Samuel 20:41> And assoone as the ladde was gone, Dauid arose out of a place toward the South, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himselfe three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, vntill Dauid exceeded.
.
1 Samuel 20:42> And Ionathan said to Dauid, Goe in peace, forasmuch as wee haue sworne both of vs in the Name of the Lord, saying; The Lord be betweene me and thee, and betweene my seede and thy seede for euer. And hee arose, and departed: and Ionathan went into the citie.
.
2 Samuel 1:25> How are the mightie fallen in the midst of the battell! O Ionathan, thou wast slaine in thine high places.
.
2 Samuel 1:26> I am distressed for thee, my brother Ionathan, very pleasant hast thou beene vnto mee: thy loue to mee was wonderfull, passing the loue of women.
++++++++++
.
Ummmm
.
Don't look kids:
.
There's two naked men laying face-down in the desert swapping seed to consummate marriage......and it is better than with women.....
.
yikes! Gitty-up camel
.
;o))
That could be a bit of a stretch, brother. Born out of your own imagination.

But, it doesn't reallly make much difference. The scripture says that their souls were knit.

That is the key. Love between two men can be completely honest and holy, without any opening of or exchange between the lower chakras.

Or, it can include the excitation and opening of these chakras, in which case it becomes sexual. If mutually consensual, trusting and loving and exclusive, there is no sin.

Promiscuity and multiple partners generally results in damage to the participants, whether heterosexual or homosexual.

Rev. Ken
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#784 Jan 7, 2013
Todd wrote:
<quoted text>How many times are your going to Spam us with the same lie?
Your filthy misinterpretation of these passages have been thoroughly discredited. The Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and says that David is innocent of such serious sin.
No it doesn't
.
The fundies merely deleted the juicy parts of the story when they rewrote their own 'bible' in 1952
.
The original story remains intact in the Authorized King James Bible; and for good reason:
http://etb-history-theology.blogspot.com/2012...
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#785 Jan 7, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
That could be a bit of a stretch, brother. Born out of your own imagination.
But, it doesn't reallly make much difference. The scripture says that their souls were knit.
That is the key. Love between two men can be completely honest and holy, without any opening of or exchange between the lower chakras.
Or, it can include the excitation and opening of these chakras, in which case it becomes sexual. If mutually consensual, trusting and loving and exclusive, there is no sin.
Promiscuity and multiple partners generally results in damage to the participants, whether heterosexual or homosexual.
Rev. Ken
Sometimes we have to 'juice up the chakras' to get the attention of Josephine the Troll
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#786 Jan 7, 2013
Todd wrote:
<quoted text>No Christian rejects a majority of the New Testament.
No Christian rejects the Bible's many commands against homosexual acts, found repeatedly in both Testaments.
You apparently have never read the Book of Acts, an extension of the Gospel of Luke. Paul was chosen by Jesus and inspired by Him. He was a major leader of the early church. You might also delve into the Didache, one of the very earliest Christian writings. It also condemns homosexual behavior, as have Christians since the beginning.
We don't worship 'bibles' or 'early churches' like you fundies do
.
False gods are not our bag

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#787 Jan 7, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
Honest Hebrew?
Is there dishonest Hebrew?...
Yes, you're one dishonest Hebrew.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#788 Jan 7, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Sometimes we have to 'juice up the chakras'...
"Sometimes" ...?
GLBTs like you lie about scripture all the time.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#789 Jan 7, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's what Jonathan and David did ...

1 Samuel 20:41> And assoone as the ladde was gone, Dauid arose out of a place toward the South, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himselfe three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, vntill Dauid exceeded.

1 Samuel 20:42> And Ionathan said to Dauid, Goe in peace, forasmuch as wee haue sworne both of vs in the Name of the Lord, saying; The Lord be betweene me and thee, and betweene my seede and thy seede for euer.

There's two naked men laying face-down in the desert swapping seed to consummate marriage ....
Bur Rabbi Israel Stein (retired) said:

1 Sam 18:4: the Hebrew “arum” or naked does not appear in the text; if Jonathan was naked, the Hebrew would definitively say so.

1 Sam 20: 41-42: David “exceeded uncontrollably” refers to weeping; they were crying, and their friendship was pledged to last even unto the lives of their respective children (seed).

Spilling seed w/o any procreation breaks the commandment to be fruitful and multiply; being gay also negates this commandment, hence the prohibition in Lev 18: 22 ...
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#790 Jan 7, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Bur Rabbi Israel Stein (retired) said:
1 Sam 18:4: the Hebrew “arum” or naked does not appear in the text; if Jonathan was naked, the Hebrew would definitively say so.
1 Sam 20: 41-42: David “exceeded uncontrollably” refers to weeping; they were crying, and their friendship was pledged to last even unto the lives of their respective children (seed).
Spilling seed w/o any procreation breaks the commandment to be fruitful and multiply; being gay also negates this commandment, hence the prohibition in Lev 18: 22 ...
Who are you going to believe?'rabbi stein' or King James?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#791 Jan 7, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are you going to believe?'rabbi stein' or King James?
Both before I'd ever believe an anonymous fool named "Rainbow".

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#792 Jan 7, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
Bur Rabbi Israel Stein (retired) said:
(falsely attributed statements deleted)
Um dear, you seem to be forgetting that we all know that every word you have attributed to Rabbi Israel Stein (retired) is nothing but a pathological lie on your part.

“Plays well with others.”

Since: Jun 07

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#793 Jan 7, 2013
Any word from the good Rabbi?

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