Episcopal Drama Rocks SC

Oct 17, 2012 Full story: FITSNews 1,813

The national Episcopal church has advised South Carolina Bishop Mark Lawrence that he has "abandoned" the church as a result of his refusal to accept its teachings on gay marriage and the ordination of gay and female clergy.

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“Plays well with others.”

Since: Jun 07

LIVING WELL*THE BEST REVENGE

#729 Jan 3, 2013
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Your worst insult is always to claim someone else shares your God-forbidden perversion.
That says a lot.
Just another dyed in the wool denier like you David.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#731 Jan 3, 2013
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>It of course nonetheless condemns all same sex acts in the clearest of terms, as do all other translations.
Malarky!!!
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The Authorized King James Bible is where we find the juicy story of Jonathan and David's marriage:
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1 Samuel 18 :1> And it came to passe when hee made an ende of speaking vnto Saul, that the soule of Ionathan was knit with the soule of Dauid, and Ionathan loued him as his owne soule.
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1 Samuel 18:3> Then Ionathan and Dauid made a couenant, because he loued him as his owne soule.
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1 Samuel 20:41> And assoone as the ladde was gone, Dauid arose out of a place toward the South, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himselfe three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, vntill Dauid exceeded.
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1 Samuel 20:42> And Ionathan said to Dauid, Goe in peace, forasmuch as wee haue sworne both of vs in the Name of the Lord, saying; The Lord be betweene me and thee, and betweene my seede and thy seede for euer. And hee arose, and departed: and Ionathan went into the citie.
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2 Samuel 1:25> How are the mightie fallen in the midst of the battell! O Ionathan, thou wast slaine in thine high places.
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2 Samuel 1:26> I am distressed for thee, my brother Ionathan, very pleasant hast thou beene vnto mee: thy loue to mee was wonderfull, passing the loue of women.
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“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#732 Jan 3, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Malarky!!!
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The Authorized King James Bible is where we find the juicy story of Jonathan and David's marriage ...
Malarky!

Rabbi Israel Stein (retired) said:

1 Sam 18:4: the Hebrew “arum” or naked does not appear in the text; if Jonathan was naked, the Hebrew would definitively say so.

1 Sam 20: 41-42: David “exceeded uncontrollably” refers to weeping; they were crying, and their friendship was pledged to last even unto the lives of their respective children (seed).

Spilling seed w/o any procreation breaks the commandment to be fruitful and multiply; being gay also negates this commandment, hence the prohibition in Lev 18: 22.

David was unabashedly heterosexual in his pursuit of Bathsheba; David was accused by the prophet Nathan of both murder and adultery, but never homosexuality.

The Bible paints saints warts and all, so why would it hide a homosexual relationship between David and Jonathan?
Then again, for some, why is every relationship between 2 men or 2 women always sexual?

“People with an agenda say what they want to say, but opinions should be based on fact, not an agenda,” said Stein.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#733 Jan 3, 2013
Since the good Rabbi is now retired, why don't you convince your friend to join us here on Topix so he can verify your attributions to him? Spamming the same unverifiable material over and over again doesn't enhance its credibility in the slightest.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#735 Jan 3, 2013
How, once again, so very Christlike of you David, it's as if Jesus himself had come back to throw a childish hissy fit at me. Such a sad, sad, little man you are. I feel sorry for you.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#736 Jan 4, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Since the good Rabbi is now retired, why don't you convince your friend to join us here on Topix so he can verify your attributions to him? Spamming the same unverifiable material ...
Stein's knowledge of Hebrew can easilly be verified, otherwise you can call Stein yourself -- he still visits his temple on Park Ave in Bpt., CT.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#737 Jan 4, 2013
An open letter to Rabbi Israel Stein (retired),

Rabbi,

Your friend, Joe De Caro, has on numerous occasions, probably numbering close to 100 by now, cited your alleged expertise and has attributed quotes to you. The problem with this, is that none of this alleged material is publicly available in any form on the internet. One of his "quotes" allegedly by you can only be found in his posts on this site. He claims to have recordings of said quotes and associated information (possibly illegally made, if they exist at all), but of course, those are not available to us.

Your friend insists that we, complete strangers to you, disturb your retirement to inquire about his less than credible actions here, but since he is your friend, that shouldn't be our job, but his.

I am posting this open letter as one last attempt to get at the truth of his statements. If we do not hear from you on this site, we will dismiss your friend as nothing more than the pathological liar and fraud he is currently coming across as.

If your friend deserves saving here, only you can do it. We are waiting, but not patiently.

sincerely, Joe's friends on Topix

“Plays well with others.”

Since: Jun 07

LIVING WELL*THE BEST REVENGE

#738 Jan 4, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
An open letter to Rabbi Israel Stein (retired),
Rabbi,
Your friend, Joe De Caro, has on numerous occasions, probably numbering close to 100 by now, cited your alleged expertise and has attributed quotes to you. The problem with this, is that none of this alleged material is publicly available in any form on the internet. One of his "quotes" allegedly by you can only be found in his posts on this site. He claims to have recordings of said quotes and associated information (possibly illegally made, if they exist at all), but of course, those are not available to us.
Your friend insists that we, complete strangers to you, disturb your retirement to inquire about his less than credible actions here, but since he is your friend, that shouldn't be our job, but his.
I am posting this open letter as one last attempt to get at the truth of his statements. If we do not hear from you on this site, we will dismiss your friend as nothing more than the pathological liar and fraud he is currently coming across as.
If your friend deserves saving here, only you can do it. We are waiting, but not patiently.
sincerely, Joe's friends on Topix
To which address did you send this?

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#740 Jan 4, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Stein's knowledge of Hebrew can easilly be verified, otherwise you can call Stein yourself -- he still visits his temple on Park Ave in Bpt., CT.
Idiot, any Rabbi has 'knowledge' of Hebrew.

I can find 50 ACTIVE rabbis who disagree with you and your one retired rabbi.

In fact the entire reformed congregation disagrees with you!

LOL.....

“Plays well with others.”

Since: Jun 07

LIVING WELL*THE BEST REVENGE

#741 Jan 4, 2013
http://messyjesusbusiness.wordpress.com/2013/...

An ATTITUDE of GRATITUDE!!!!

I dare you watch this one Joe!

“Plays well with others.”

Since: Jun 07

LIVING WELL*THE BEST REVENGE

#742 Jan 4, 2013
"Four Warning Signs of Hardening of the Spiritual Arteries.
(1) You begin to believe you know who is going to heaven and who is not.
(2) You worry more about what other people are doing behind closed doors than what you are doing in plain sight.
(3) You imagine that God belongs to your political party.
(4) You spend more time blaming than listening.

If you develop any of these symptoms go quickly to a place of worship you would otherwise never attend. Sit quietly. Watch the children. When they make you smile you are on the road to recovery." |

Bishop Steven Charleston

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#743 Jan 4, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
I can find 50 ACTIVE rabbis who disagree with you and your one retired rabbi ...
So you can find 50 rabbis who say that the Hebrew word “arum” or naked DOES appear in 1 Sam 18:4, or that David “exceeded uncontrollably” DOES NOT refer to weeping in 1 Sam 20: 41-42?

Fool, you don't even have to know Hebrew to realize that David WAS "unabashedly heterosexual in his pursuit of Bathsheba; David was accused by the prophet Nathan of both murder and adultery, but never homosexuality."

Then again, no one ever accused you of having a brain.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#744 Jan 4, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
I am posting this open letter as one last attempt to get at the truth of his statements ...
Since we both know Rabbi Stein doesn't frequent Topix, why haven't you attempted to call his Temple on Park Ave. in Bpt., Ct., where the retired rabbi still maintains an answering machine?

The number is listed in the Fairfield County CT phone book.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#745 Jan 4, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Since we both know Rabbi Stein doesn't frequent Topix, why haven't you attempted to call his Temple on Park Ave. in Bpt., Ct., where the retired rabbi still maintains an answering machine?
The number is listed in the Fairfield County CT phone book.
That would be your problem, now wouldn't it? He is leaving you to branded as nothing more than a pathological liar and a fraud.

PS got his email address already sweetie.

So you were about to say?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#746 Jan 4, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
David was accused by the prophet Nathan of both murder and adultery, but never homosexuality."
That's because 'homosexual' wasn't added to the fundie's rewritten 'bible' until 1946; 2,000 years too late for David

“Plays well with others.”

Since: Jun 07

LIVING WELL*THE BEST REVENGE

#747 Jan 4, 2013
Any word from the Rabbi?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#748 Jan 4, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
Any word from the Rabbi?
None as of yet. Why am I not the least bit surprised?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#749 Jan 4, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>
That would be your problem, now wouldn't it?...
The fact that you can't refute what Stein said isn't MY problem.
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
That's because 'homosexual' wasn't added to the fundie's rewritten 'bible' until 1946; 2,000 years too late for David
Leviticus 18:22 wasn't too late for David.
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Sounds like a very accurate description of male homosexuality.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#750 Jan 5, 2013
The fact that you can't prove that Stein said any of what you claimed and the reality that he has clearly hung you out to dry on this, proves you to be nothing more than a pathological liar and exposed as a complete fraud. THAT dear, is your problem.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#751 Jan 5, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
So you can find 50 rabbis who say that the Hebrew word “arum” or naked DOES appear in 1 Sam 18:4, or that David “exceeded uncontrollably” DOES NOT refer to weeping in 1 Sam 20: 41-42?
Fool, you don't even have to know Hebrew to realize that David WAS "unabashedly heterosexual in his pursuit of Bathsheba; David was accused by the prophet Nathan of both murder and adultery, but never homosexuality."
Then again, no one ever accused you of having a brain.
So why use your fake Rabbi? Just say it's YOUR belief, if you have the guts.

Otherwise leave Hebrew to the scholars...

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