Homosexuality and the Bible

Homosexuality and the Bible

There are 36038 comments on the www.smh.com.au story from Aug 15, 2011, titled Homosexuality and the Bible. In it, www.smh.com.au reports that:

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.smh.com.au.

SHADOW

Canyon Lake, TX

#19080 Aug 1, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't dwell on it. It's not a problem and we all know you work at personal integrity and we appreciate your efforts.
As for Kentucky, they won't be likely to pass civil union law that permits same-sex marriage without a swift kick in the arse from the Supreme Court, anyway.
Rev. Ken
Well ken I agree with you about Kentucky. The only way "your kind" gets any same sex anything is when some liberal judge decides to make law from the bench. The people will never agree to such perversions.
Hell look at the liberal state of California voted same sex perversion down. Then.....a queer judge in a relationship with another man strikes down the vote of the people.
3% of Americans are gender confused and that few can never drive our society.
SHADOW

Canyon Lake, TX

#19081 Aug 1, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't dwell on it. It's not a problem and we all know you work at personal integrity and we appreciate your efforts.
As for Kentucky, they won't be likely to pass civil union law that permits same-sex marriage without a swift kick in the arse from the Supreme Court, anyway.
Rev. Ken
Readers I will remind you to not even read this gender confused
"F" stands for FAKE rev rambling rants. He is mentally disturbed and adrift in an ocean of sin.
He even forgives LIARS who intenionally lies and posts those LIES as truth then tries to repent----------

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#19083 Aug 1, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Ironically, the authors of the study have undergone none of the scrutiny that your sainted Regnerus did. Perhaps it's because their methodology is legit, whereas Regnerus skewed his result to please his patrons.
Troll on, Hunty.
Of course not. It says what you want.

Even Slate noted the vicious distortion against Regnerus.

I simply mock the very premise the title asserts. An end conclusion drawn in toddlers. LOL

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#19084 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Too funny.
Here is the study;
http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/
wp-content/uploads/Goldberg-an d-Smith-2013-JFP1.pdf
It studies 120 couples (lesbian/gay/hertero) who adopted children under 1.5 years old.
The study ended 2.25 years later when the oldest child was under 3.5 years old.
I was laughing so hard at this point, I couldn't read more (I will later...).
This is definitive proof that the children will end up equal???
Unbelievably deceitful and idiotic.
Homosexuals and professionals use this BS to put children at risk for political correctness???
Diabolically criminal!
<quoted text>
Yeah, that's the ONLY option.
But you belie the point. The article claimed there was no difference between outcomes. The study has no basis to make any such claim.
Why does a legitimate cause need such deceitful tactics???
<quoted text>
And my point?
That conclusion is based on a 2.25 year span of time BEFORE any of the 75 children in ss couple homes reached 4 years old.
The test size is tiny.
The time period is extremely short.
The conclusion is ridiculously early.
Those points don't even begin to look at HOW they obtained information and WHO they used in the study.
You ought to be embarrassed to publish such garbage.
"Family type is not a predictor of a child’s psychological adjustment among early placed adopted children with lesbian, gay or heterosexual parents. An estimated 16,000 same-sex couples are raising more than 22,000 adopted children in the U.S., and these findings indicate that these children will likely fare no differently, as a result of their family type, than those being raised by heterosexual parents. "

The joke is on you moron.

http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#19085 Aug 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
"Family type is not a predictor of a child’s psychological adjustment among early placed adopted children with lesbian, gay or heterosexual parents. An estimated 16,000 same-sex couples are raising more than 22,000 adopted children in the U.S., and these findings indicate that these children will likely fare no differently, as a result of their family type, than those being raised by heterosexual parents. "
The joke is on you moron.
http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/
Did you quote that from a seance? Because predicting that from 75 toddler kids in ss couple homes is not based on fact.
Moreover, gays are so just about treating all studies with the same scrutiny...
Smirk.
SHADOW

Canyon Lake, TX

#19086 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you quote that from a seance? Because predicting that from 75 toddler kids in ss couple homes is not based on fact.
Moreover, gays are so just about treating all studies with the same scrutiny...
Smirk.
"will likely fair no differently" are the catch words here. Studies with so few children for such a short time become guess work at best which is what the gay/lesbian community lives on.
Oh it shouldn't hurt little johnny---right and if it does then what?
Normal households, man and woman, are what this country was built on.

Since: Aug 11

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#19087 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you quote that from a seance? Because predicting that from 75 toddler kids in ss couple homes is not based on fact.
Moreover, gays are so just about treating all studies with the same scrutiny...
Smirk.
Kids who are secure as toddlers will grow up to be confident adults. I'll trust the qualifications of the people doing the study rather than the worthless opinions of an insecure, three nipple vagina man internet troll. ROTFLMAO

NEXT

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#19088 Aug 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Kids who are secure as toddlers will grow up to be confident adults. I'll trust the qualifications of the people doing the study rather than the worthless opinions of an insecure, three nipple vagina man internet troll. ROTFLMAO
NEXT
You mean toddlers that say 'no' with confidence?

Or 'confidently' stand up to an adult at the check-out line?

But hey, I'm a near senile old man, you are an idiot, and those people based the future of millions of children, deprived of parents and one gender on a bogus study of 75 kids.

Throwing kids under the bus. Despicable.

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#19089 Aug 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean toddlers that say 'no' with confidence?
Or 'confidently' stand up to an adult at the check-out line?
But hey, I'm a near senile old man, you are an idiot, and those people based the future of millions of children, deprived of parents and one gender on a bogus study of 75 kids.
Throwing kids under the bus. Despicable.
That's OK. You fundies have been throwing kids under the bus for centuries, even millennia.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#19090 Aug 2, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
That's OK. You fundies have been throwing kids under the bus for centuries, even millennia.
Just pure hatred, bigotry and ignorance.

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#19091 Aug 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Just pure hatred, bigotry and ignorance.
We know you do. You're admitting it, that's a start.

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#19092 Aug 2, 2013
"Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man."
- Jesuit motto

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#19093 Aug 2, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
"Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man."
- Jesuit motto
They are celibate, right?

This study was for 2.25 years until the oldest was 3.5 years old.

Major denial honey!

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#19094 Aug 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
They are celibate, right?
This study was for 2.25 years until the oldest was 3.5 years old.
Major denial honey!
I hadn't read the study yet, so I didn't understand. Better than someone who doesn't understand the meaning of a simple word.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/denial

Since: Aug 11

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#19095 Aug 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
They are celibate, right?
This study was for 2.25 years until the oldest was 3.5 years old.
Major denial honey!
Here's what a researcher said:
"Because of the situation that same-sex families find themselves in, they are generally more willing to communicate and approach the issues that any child may face at school, like teasing, bullying, overt homophobia and rejection. This fosters openness and means children tend to be more resilient. That would be our hypothesis."

http://perezhilton.com/perezitos/2013-06-08-c...

Worried about children growing up with gay parents? Well, stop. These kids are alright.
That's according to the initial findings of a new study from Melbourne University in Australia that found kids of same-sex couples are on average even healthier and more adjusted than kids of straight couples.
The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families, called the world's largest study of its kind, drew upon health data from over 500 children aged 5-17 and 315 gay, lesbian and bisexual parents. An interim report of the study's findings was released this week.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/...

“Many studies have demonstrated that children’s well-being is affected much more by their relationships with their parents, their parents’ sense of competence and security, and the presence of social and economic support for the family than by the gender or the sexual orientation of their parents,” Siegel writes with coauthor Ellen Perrin, a Tufts University professor of pediatrics and director of developmental and behavioral pediatrics.

http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-g...

WASHINGTON — During last week's Supreme Court arguments on gay marriage, Justice Antonin Scalia asserted that "there's considerable disagreement" among experts over whether "raising a child in a single-sex family is harmful or not." Two other justices agreed that gay parenting was a new and uncertain development.

Those comments startled child development experts as well as advocates of gay marriage, because there is considerable research showing children of gay parents do not have more problems than others.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/05/natio...

"The vast consensus of all the studies shows that children of same-sex parents do as well as children whose parents are heterosexual in every way," she tells WebMD. "In some ways children of same-sex parents actually may have advantages over other family structures."

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20051...


"All these arguments, evidences and data can be pulled together into the conclusion that children’s nature does not require heterosexual parental guidance and children do not have to be raised by straight parents."

http://www.academia.edu/2029488/Homosexual_Pa...

Sorry SMIRKY, your opinion is false.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#19096 Aug 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
They are celibate, right?
This study was for 2.25 years until the oldest was 3.5 years old.
Major denial honey!
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's what a researcher said:
"Because of the situation that same-sex families find themselves in, they are generally more willing to communicate and approach the issues that any child may face at school, like teasing, bullying, overt homophobia and rejection. This fosters openness and means children tend to be more resilient. That would be our hypothesis."
http://perezhilton.com/perezitos/2013-06-08-c...
Worried about children growing up with gay parents? Well, stop. These kids are alright.
That's according to the initial findings of a new study from Melbourne University in Australia that found kids of same-sex couples are on average even healthier and more adjusted than kids of straight couples.
The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families, called the world's largest study of its kind, drew upon health data from over 500 children aged 5-17 and 315 gay, lesbian and bisexual parents. An interim report of the study's findings was released this week.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/...
“Many studies have demonstrated that children’s well-being is affected much more by their relationships with their parents, their parents’ sense of competence and security, and the presence of social and economic support for the family than by the gender or the sexual orientation of their parents,” Siegel writes with coauthor Ellen Perrin, a Tufts University professor of pediatrics and director of developmental and behavioral pediatrics.
http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-g...
WASHINGTON — During last week's Supreme Court arguments on gay marriage, Justice Antonin Scalia asserted that "there's considerable disagreement" among experts over whether "raising a child in a single-sex family is harmful or not." Two other justices agreed that gay parenting was a new and uncertain development.
Those comments startled child development experts as well as advocates of gay marriage, because there is considerable research showing children of gay parents do not have more problems than others.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/05/natio...
"The vast consensus of all the studies shows that children of same-sex parents do as well as children whose parents are heterosexual in every way," she tells WebMD. "In some ways children of same-sex parents actually may have advantages over other family structures."
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20051...
"All these arguments, evidences and data can be pulled together into the conclusion that children’s nature does not require heterosexual parental guidance and children do not have to be raised by straight parents."
http://www.academia.edu/2029488/Homosexual_Pa...
Sorry SMIRKY, your opinion is false.
My opinion stands.

ANY study of 75 kids in ss couple homes that ends when the oldest child is less than 3.5 years old offers NO legitimate 'conclusions'.

The attempt to portray otherwise is a perfect example of the other studies you mention. When scrutinized, they fail at so many levels.

Here is a study of those studies;

http://www.sciencedaily.com/
releases/2012/06/120610151302. htm

Since: Aug 11

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#19097 Aug 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
They are celibate, right?
This study was for 2.25 years until the oldest was 3.5 years old.
Major denial honey!
<quoted text>
My opinion stands.
ANY study of 75 kids in ss couple homes that ends when the oldest child is less than 3.5 years old offers NO legitimate 'conclusions'.
The attempt to portray otherwise is a perfect example of the other studies you mention. When scrutinized, they fail at so many levels.
Here is a study of those studies;
http://www.sciencedaily.com/
releases/2012/06/120610151302. htm
What about the following?

Here's what a researcher said:
"Because of the situation that same-sex families find themselves in, they are generally more willing to communicate and approach the issues that any child may face at school, like teasing, bullying, overt homophobia and rejection. This fosters openness and means children tend to be more resilient. That would be our hypothesis."

http://perezhilton.com/perezitos/2013-06-08-c ...

Worried about children growing up with gay parents? Well, stop. These kids are alright.
That's according to the initial findings of a new study from Melbourne University in Australia that found kids of same-sex couples are on average even healthier and more adjusted than kids of straight couples.
The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families, called the world's largest study of its kind, drew upon health data from over 500 children aged 5-17 and 315 gay, lesbian and bisexual parents. An interim report of the study's findings was released this week.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ ...

“Many studies have demonstrated that children’s well-being is affected much more by their relationships with their parents, their parents’ sense of competence and security, and the presence of social and economic support for the family than by the gender or the sexual orientation of their parents,” Siegel writes with coauthor Ellen Perrin, a Tufts University professor of pediatrics and director of developmental and behavioral pediatrics.

http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-g ...

WASHINGTON — During last week's Supreme Court arguments on gay marriage, Justice Antonin Scalia asserted that "there's considerable disagreement" among experts over whether "raising a child in a single-sex family is harmful or not." Two other justices agreed that gay parenting was a new and uncertain development.

Those comments startled child development experts as well as advocates of gay marriage, because there is considerable research showing children of gay parents do not have more problems than others.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/05/natio ...

"The vast consensus of all the studies shows that children of same-sex parents do as well as children whose parents are heterosexual in every way," she tells WebMD. "In some ways children of same-sex parents actually may have advantages over other family structures."

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20051 ...

"All these arguments, evidences and data can be pulled together into the conclusion that children’s nature does not require heterosexual parental guidance and children do not have to be raised by straight parents."

http://www.academia.edu/2029488/Homosexual_Pa ...

Sorry SMIRKY, most experts disagree with your worthless opinions.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#19098 Aug 3, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
What about the following?
Here's what a researcher said:
"Because of the situation that same-sex families find themselves in, they are generally more willing to communicate and approach the issues that any child may face at school, like teasing, bullying, overt homophobia and rejection. This fosters openness and means children tend to be more resilient. That would be our hypothesis."
http://perezhilton.com/perezitos/2013-06-08-c ...
Worried about children growing up with gay parents? Well, stop. These kids are alright.
That's according to the initial findings of a new study from Melbourne University in Australia that found kids of same-sex couples are on average even healthier and more adjusted than kids of straight couples.
The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families, called the world's largest study of its kind, drew upon health data from over 500 children aged 5-17 and 315 gay, lesbian and bisexual parents. An interim report of the study's findings was released this week.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ ...
“Many studies have demonstrated that children’s well-being is affected much more by their relationships with their parents, their parents’ sense of competence and security, and the presence of social and economic support for the family than by the gender or the sexual orientation of their parents,” Siegel writes with coauthor Ellen Perrin, a Tufts University professor of pediatrics and director of developmental and behavioral pediatrics.
http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-g ...
WASHINGTON — During last week's Supreme Court arguments on gay marriage, Justice Antonin Scalia asserted that "there's considerable disagreement" among experts over whether "raising a child in a single-sex family is harmful or not." Two other justices agreed that gay parenting was a new and uncertain development.
Those comments startled child development experts as well as advocates of gay marriage, because there is considerable research showing children of gay parents do not have more problems than others.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/05/natio ...
"The vast consensus of all the studies shows that children of same-sex parents do as well as children whose parents are heterosexual in every way," she tells WebMD. "In some ways children of same-sex parents actually may have advantages over other family structures."
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20051 ...
"All these arguments, evidences and data can be pulled together into the conclusion that children’s nature does not require heterosexual parental guidance and children do not have to be raised by straight parents."
http://www.academia.edu/2029488/Homosexual_Pa ...
Sorry SMIRKY, most experts disagree with your worthless opinions.
My opinion stands.

ANY study of 75 kids in ss couple homes that ends when the oldest child is less than 3.5 years old offers NO legitimate 'conclusions'.

The attempt to portray otherwise is a perfect example of the other studies you mention. When scrutinized, they fail at so many levels.

Here is a study of those studies;

http://www.sciencedaily.com/
releases/2012/06/120610151302. htm

Moreover, every study of heterosexual default families FAILED in comparison to natural families. Significantly.

These studies claim that in a default lesbian home(there are none that address gay couples), that deficit is not just overcome, but they better even natural families! This with the father missing!

You violate both honest science, and common sense.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#19099 Aug 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
My opinion stands.
.
Because you WANT to believe that SS couples can't possibly parent just as well as anybody else. In fact, you'd like to believe that two chimpanzees could parent better that SS couples.

Troll on, Hunty.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#19100 Aug 3, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Because you WANT to believe that SS couples can't possibly parent just as well as anybody else. In fact, you'd like to believe that two chimpanzees could parent better that SS couples.
Troll on, Hunty.
I wouldn't have near the issue if that were the claim.

Keeping in mind that there are NO studies regarding gay couples, just lesbian...

The claim is that lesbian couples parent better than not just default hetero couples (adoptive, step, foster), but better than natural parents.

It's a double whammy of stupidity.
~Duplicate gender default parents top diverse gender default parents.
~And duplicate gender default parents top natural parents!

How do you explain that???

Smirk smile.

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