Homosexuality and the Bible

Aug 15, 2011 Full story: www.smh.com.au 26,659

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

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Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#17768 Apr 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Keep twirling rev.
The disciples understood perfectly the morality Jesus was talking about in the context of Judaism, not some African practice. And certainly not some gay twirl theology of a dying godless religion.
Hence your inability to address the passage directly.
Smile.
Sorry but abstinence goes directly against the command to be fruitful and multiply.

You sure you're not a roman now?

Sex is good, that's why God created the orgasm.

LOL......

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#17769 Apr 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Keep twirling rev.
The disciples understood perfectly the morality Jesus was talking about in the context of Judaism, not some African practice. And certainly not some gay twirl theology of a dying godless religion.
Hence your inability to address the passage directly.
Smile.
MiddleWay wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry but abstinence goes directly against the command to be fruitful and multiply.
You sure you're not a roman now?
Sex is good, that's why God created the orgasm.
LOL......
Jesus simply affirmed that fruitful and multiply was within the context of marriage, something ss couples are incapable of.

In the context of the passage, simply noted that Jesus offered the alternative of abstinence. The rev asserts that the only option was castration.

Smile.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17770 Apr 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Keep twirling rev.

Smile.
It's a moot point, Kuntmary. SCOTUS isn't asking the baby Jesus about reproduction as it pertains to marriage.

At the end of the day, your arguments still fail because they have no bearing on reality.

Troll on.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17771 Apr 22, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a moot point, Kuntmary. SCOTUS isn't asking the baby Jesus about reproduction as it pertains to marriage.
At the end of the day, your arguments still fail because they have no bearing on reality.
Troll on.
At the end of the day, homosexuality is a defect of mating behavior. A direct oxymoron to marriage.

Smile.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17772 Apr 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
At the end of the day, homosexuality is a defect of mating behavior. A direct oxymoron to marriage.
Smile.
And how has your opinion affected anyone? Lots of people are still legally married, in spite of your psuedo-clever semantic word games and lame opinions.

How many states, that were contemplating SSM, put the brakes on after consulting with you?

Don't bother answering; it was a rhetorical question.
Vick Torre

Washington, DC

#17773 Apr 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
At the end of the day, homosexuality is a defect of mating behavior. A direct oxymoron to marriage.
Smile.
At the end of any day, hetero marriages-49%- defective in mating behavior and personal matters. Women with hold sex from husbands because of some domestic dispute, so the guys look for those like me. My neighbor talks about her father not wanting his own daughter. At age 68, she still goes for counseling. It estranged her from her marriage and daughters. Lots of failed hetero relationships. I would hear my hetero co-workers moan about their relationships. That's just one of many I hear bellyaching about hetero relationships. That's reality of hetero connections. I get my info from them. The real life hetero relationships. Where you get your info? A Lie-brary? SMIRK.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#17774 Apr 22, 2013
And yet the Bible did not have the word homosexual in it until the 1940's.

I wonder why, I mean the word was invented at least 50 years before that.

Hmmm..........

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17775 Apr 22, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> At the end of any day, hetero marriages-49%- defective in mating behavior and personal matters. Women with hold sex from husbands because of some domestic dispute, so the guys look for those like me. My neighbor talks about her father not wanting his own daughter. At age 68, she still goes for counseling. It estranged her from her marriage and daughters. Lots of failed hetero relationships. I would hear my hetero co-workers moan about their relationships. That's just one of many I hear bellyaching about hetero relationships. That's reality of hetero connections. I get my info from them. The real life hetero relationships. Where you get your info? A Lie-brary? SMIRK.
At the end of the day, a broken marriage can still perform mating behavior.

A ss couple? Never.

Smile.

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#17776 Apr 22, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
And yet the Bible did not have the word homosexual in it until the 1940's.
I wonder why, I mean the word was invented at least 50 years before that.
Hmmm..........
So?

Everyone still knew what it referred to.

And it wasn't 'inhospitality'.

Smirk.
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#17777 Apr 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
At the end of the day, a broken marriage can still perform mating behavior.
A ss couple? Never.
Smile.
Gays physically mate. By every definition. Two bodies joining is mating. So you have no reasonable answer against gay couples. Take gods command -"be fruitful and multiply". Well, too many on this world now. Resourses low. Rendering gods command as an unwise decision.

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#17778 Apr 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So?
Everyone still knew what it referred to.
And it wasn't 'inhospitality'.
Smirk.
You missed the passages that say otherwise. Your Bible interpretation sucks.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17779 Apr 22, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
<quoted text>
You missed the passages that say otherwise. Your Bible interpretation sucks.
So you are saying God destroyed a city because of 'inhospitality'?

That's blonde, LuLu...

Smile.
LuluFord

Santa Cruz, CA

#17780 Apr 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are saying God destroyed a city because of 'inhospitality'?
That's blonde, LuLu...
Smile.
It's mythology stupid.

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#17781 Apr 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are saying God destroyed a city because of 'inhospitality'?
That's blonde, LuLu...
Smile.
Lack of compassion toward the poor and needy.

Ezekiel 16:49
New International Version (NIV)
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

Lack of hospitality toward God's messengers

Matthew 10:15
New International Version (NIV)
15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

Lack of mindfulness of the Lord.

Amos 4:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 “I overthrew some of you
as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17782 Apr 22, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
<quoted text>
Lack of compassion toward the poor and needy.
Ezekiel 16:49
New International Version (NIV)
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
Lack of hospitality toward God's messengers
Matthew 10:15
New International Version (NIV)
15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
Lack of mindfulness of the Lord.
Amos 4:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 “I overthrew some of you
as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.
Those angels were certainly not 'poor and needy'.

Isn't there some other verses about Sodom and Gomorrah too?

Smile.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#17783 Apr 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So?
Everyone still knew what it referred to.
And it wasn't 'inhospitality'.
Smirk.
LOL!

As long as facts are a concern to you.....

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#17784 Apr 23, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
<quoted text>
Lack of compassion toward the poor and needy.
Ezekiel 16:49
New International Version (NIV)
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
Lack of hospitality toward God's messengers
Matthew 10:15
New International Version (NIV)
15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
Lack of mindfulness of the Lord.
Amos 4:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 “I overthrew some of you
as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.
Dear dear Lulu, thank you for the presentation of facts.

Somehow they remain 'opinions' to our bigot fundamentalists.

They are more concerned with a book than a relationship with the living God.

How sad and very hypocritical...

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#17785 Apr 23, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear dear Lulu, thank you for the presentation of facts.
Somehow they remain 'opinions' to our bigot fundamentalists.
They are more concerned with a book than a relationship with the living God.
How sad and very hypocritical...
Thank you. I find it ironic that such people miss the most important points.

1. The crowd was uncharitable just like those who use this passage to abuse others.

2. The messengers were said to be Angels, meaning "of God." The crowd failed to recognize them as such. People who use this passage to abuse others fail to recognize God is others.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17786 Apr 23, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you. I find it ironic that such people miss the most important points.
1. The crowd was uncharitable just like those who use this passage to abuse others.
2. The messengers were said to be Angels, meaning "of God." The crowd failed to recognize them as such. People who use this passage to abuse others fail to recognize God is others.
Again,

God destroyed an entire city because of 'uncharitableness'?

Angel in the passage does not mean 'of God'.

Smile.
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#17787 Apr 23, 2013
Strange how people can read the exact words printed and have so many varying views. Like that saying "ask ten people that witness an accident and get 10 various answers". One of the main reasons I live life by what I learned. The bible should have been more direct/simplified. Each of our lives take a path of variations. About the only biblical saying I go by- " Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Some biblical sayings I like. Just like a stopped clock shows the correct time twice a day, so do some religious ideas.

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