Homosexuality and the Bible

Aug 15, 2011 | Posted by: Selecia Jones- JAX FL | Full story: www.smh.com.au

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

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Paste both lines twit.
Smile.
Learn to post or go twirl.
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Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> Maybe show it in 3-D.
I would be preferable to looking a KiMarie's mutant vagina.

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Learn to post or go twirl.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/anal...

A Dec. 22, 2011 piece by Hugo Schwyzer, a professor of gender studies and history at Pasadena City College, implied that anal sex (which he calls "the most selfless of common sexual acts" given the amount of pain the "bottoming" partner endures in its practice) could be on the rise due to its frequent appearance in both heterosexual porn and mainstream media as well as an increased pressure from heterosexual male partners. He also cited several sources who seemed to cast doubt on how pleasurable the act was for women.

Though there's no telling what he'd say about the implications of the practice between heterosexual partners, Paul Angelo, a Miami-based "gay matchmaker," reportedly called for a 60-day moratorium on anal sex among gay couples last month, saying the act diminishes self-confidence and self-esteem while causing relationship confusion among partners. "The worse part about this destruction of self-esteem is that it's on the subconscious level. A person will not feel anything during the act," he writes. "And the pleasure derived from the act will override the logic necessary to correct the behavior. In addition, there is a delay between the act of anal intercourse and the reduction of self-esteem of the person."
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I would be preferable to looking a KiMarie's mutant vagina.
That should be in Ripleys'Believe it or Not.

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<quoted text> That should be in Ripleys'Believe it or Not.
I'm the same one here; Kimare ids the whack-a-doodle one.

unfortunately, I'm stuck with him for the ride.

can you imagine my pain here? trapped within an asstroll living next door to his a$$hole. It's pretty crappy to be me. if he ever found out I'm an African-American democrat, he'd soil himself.

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I'm the same one here; Kimare ids the whack-a-doodle one.
unfortunately, I'm stuck with him for the ride.
can you imagine my pain here? trapped within an asstroll living next door to his a$$hole. It's pretty crappy to be me. if he ever found out I'm an African-American democrat, he'd soil himself.
LMAO!

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1. My statement is hardly an insult.
2. Even if it were, it does not validate his assertion.
3. How often is there unsolicited sacrilegious comments on here?
Get real rev.
Smile.
1. Yes. Your statement, "Maybe you are the problem," was intended to insult. Clearly, simply, absolutely implying that any problem Vic Torre is having with understanding religious doctrine and dogma is most likely his own.

You have the right and opportunity to join with Vic Torre in his realization that the objectivity of religion is inherently flawed. Such comprehension is limited by its very nature of an imperfect understanding - no matter who you are.

But, no. You put the onus on him. I am not saying you are either right or wrong to have done so. It is simply what you did.

2. Yes. From his perspective, it validates his assertion. To be honest, one has to ask about the purpose of Vic Torre's post in the first place. What did he expect in response? If he did not expect disagreement with his views, why did he post his views. But, that is not an insult on his part. It is more of a challenge.

3. Unsolicited sacreligious comments? That is a matter of personal opinion.

As for getting real, that is the exercise of my faith in Christ Jesus. Am I perfect in that exercise? Not so far as I can tell. But, I am working on it. Maybe, someday, the Holy Spirit will afford me a momentary glimpse of that perfection.

Until then, I am just a human being like you are.

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RevKen wrote:
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1. Yes. Your statement, "Maybe you are the problem," was intended to insult. Clearly, simply, absolutely implying that any problem Vic Torre is having with understanding religious doctrine and dogma is most likely his own.
You have the right and opportunity to join with Vic Torre in his realization that the objectivity of religion is inherently flawed. Such comprehension is limited by its very nature of an imperfect understanding - no matter who you are.
But, no. You put the onus on him. I am not saying you are either right or wrong to have done so. It is simply what you did.
2. Yes. From his perspective, it validates his assertion. To be honest, one has to ask about the purpose of Vic Torre's post in the first place. What did he expect in response? If he did not expect disagreement with his views, why did he post his views. But, that is not an insult on his part. It is more of a challenge.
3. Unsolicited sacreligious comments? That is a matter of personal opinion.
As for getting real, that is the exercise of my faith in Christ Jesus. Am I perfect in that exercise? Not so far as I can tell. But, I am working on it. Maybe, someday, the Holy Spirit will afford me a momentary glimpse of that perfection.
Until then, I am just a human being like you are.
Rev. Ken
Thank very much! I said before that I respect anyones faith. I never attacked a persons belief. Those who know me can verify. It is when their belief is used to justify their insults to me. Then I do likewise. "DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. Even though that phrase is religious, it's a good policy to live by and I do just that. You certainly earned my respect.
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I'm the same one here; Kimare ids the whack-a-doodle one.
unfortunately, I'm stuck with him for the ride.
can you imagine my pain here? trapped within an asstroll living next door to his a$$hole. It's pretty crappy to be me. if he ever found out I'm an African-American democrat, he'd soil himself.
That is unfortunate. If he lived next to me,there would be daily difficulties. I never bother a neighbor. I have been intruded upon. Took it to court. I won. Should that family return-immediate arrest. They left before the court date. Neighbors (3 of them) willing to back my case. They are long time residents.
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<quoted text> Thank very much! I said before that I respect anyones faith. I never attacked a persons belief. Those who know me can verify. It is when their belief is used to justify their insults to me. Then I do likewise. "DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. Even though that phrase is religious, it's a good policy to live by and I do just that. You certainly earned my respect.
You are trolling a Bible thread, knowing full well that the Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior. What's that all about?

You quote in all caps means quite the opposite of what you say. It means if you don't want the sort of hate you spew, don't do it to others!
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<quoted text>You are trolling a Bible thread, knowing full well that the Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior. What's that all about?
You quote in all caps means quite the opposite of what you say. It means if you don't want the sort of hate you spew, don't do it to others!
And you're not trolling the same thread? I know what the bible says. Then there are other religions that hate your bible. I find the bible wrong on many issues. What hate do I post? Other than responding to a hateful one to me? I explained that before. Not all my qoutes are in caps. The proof is there for all to see. What's up with that statement?
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...yep.

Lot of homosexuals in the bible

Let's have a mass debate on that!:-)
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...yep.
Lot of homosexuals in the bible
Let's have a mass debate on that!:-)
The story of David and Jonathan is a love story if I ever read one, start there.
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I bite wrote:
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The story of David and Jonathan is a love story if I ever read one, start there.
I was thinking about good ol' Dave and that bear of a man Goliath, but you make a very good point there as well!

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Joe DeCaro wrote:
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"Similarly one could argue that nowhere in the Gospels does Jesus condemn homosexuality. Perhaps Jesus was not concerned about it? This argument is not strong for Jesus does not mention a range of other sins so his pronouncements on sin could not be assumed to be exhaustive."
The only reason he didn't say anything on it was because at the time people weren't really struggling with it. I mean look at Sodem and Gamorah...they got destroyed because of their homosexuality and wanting to have intercourse with Angels...homosexuality it a sin and is wrong. Though people take a horrid approach saying God hates gays he doesn't. God loves everyone but hates the sin in our lives.

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I bite wrote:
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The story of David and Jonathan is a love story if I ever read one, start there.
Oh my goodness. Read the Bible. Do you know how much David struggled with sexual sin only with females? He had multiple wife's and called for a woman, Bathsheba, so he could lay with her. He got her pregnant had her husband killed and well God took out his judgement on David later but all I'm saying is that they where friends. Jonathan went to comfort David as a friend. Iron sharpens iron, believers uplift believers. David called for Bathsheba, not the guard...
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Oh my goodness. Read the Bible. Do you know how much David struggled with sexual sin only with females? He had multiple wife's and called for a woman, Bathsheba, so he could lay with her. He got her pregnant had her husband killed and well God took out his judgement on David later but all I'm saying is that they where friends. Jonathan went to comfort David as a friend. Iron sharpens iron, believers uplift believers. David called for Bathsheba, not the guard...
Yeah well they edit a lot of the f*g sh*t out of it, but it's all in the subtext.

There was a lot of fondling between the two and the reason Dave sent the man whore, I mean servant, away was to have one last tryst with Johnny boy.

They never mentioned the homosexual aspect of his struggle so that his alleged womanizing coAlso if you want to know the story of the guy ad be used as a smokescreen for preachers etc to molest young boys.

Also, the story of Jesus was written many times before he was Jewish, going back 5000 at least to the Egyptian empire. Probably a good reason not to believe all the fairytales in the bible
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My bad. Third paragraph should read as follows:

They never mentioned the homosexual aspect of his struggle so that his alleged womanizing could be used as a smokescreen for preachers etc to molest young boys.

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Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> And you're not trolling the same thread? I know what the bible says. Then there are other religions that hate your bible. I find the bible wrong on many issues. What hate do I post? Other than responding to a hateful one to me? I explained that before. Not all my qoutes are in caps. The proof is there for all to see. What's up with that statement?
Steve nailed it. If you truly were an atheist, you wouldn't bother with Believers. You are trying to convince yourself, and you only look stupid doing it. Your presence, words and caps shout anger.

Like you said, "The proof is there for all to see."

Smile.

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The story of David and Jonathan is a love story if I ever read one, start there.
Two idiots.

David was confronted for adultery with Bathsheba, but excused for homosexuality with Jonathan?

The only thing you said that made sense, is equating kissing Goliath with a stone to inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning anal sex.

Are you girls ever stupid.

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