Homosexuality and the Bible

Aug 15, 2011 | Posted by: Selecia Jones- JAX FL | Full story: www.smh.com.au

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

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The break down is roughly 4% of each LGB. The T part is somewhat unknowable but a modest estimate would be around 0.5% of the total population with some kind of a gender issue. Do the math, this is higher than 10% correct?
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<quoted text> Not at all. As I said before-no one has a right to deny the rights to another. Regardless how small the percentage. No lie yo "bust". About taking away an individuals right Wrong and that is a protection guarenteed by the laws of this land. And you want yo take it away.
What can I say---you are just one sad individual.
You have no right to infringe on an establishment like marriage.
I have never said you can't sleep with your dog have I.
You know fool if you and yours had just kept your personal life personal none of this would have happened. You got to drag your perversion down the street for all to see.
You have no rights that fly in the face of a civilized society.
It is like walking down the street naked. You have the right but you will be arrested, unless it is just a gay pride event. hehe
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What is your interest in anal sex? Did you know that the larger percentage of people practicing anal sex are heterosexual?
Interest in anal, I am not interested in "you" I was only posting.
How do you practice sex anyway?
Large percentage----Link please.
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<quoted text> The bible is a lie. Not saying it out of hate. Bible itself presents the lies. Just need to be impartial before reading it. Poorly written as a story. Genious at gabrication. All there in that bible. I wish and like the concept of an eternal life in a great paradise. Who would'nt? And IF the written words made sense,I'd be living by it. I watched some of "The Ten Commandments" Sunday. 1956 version. I use to believe all of it. As I grew and go through life and learn from life,began to see problems with scripture. Began to ask myself questions to what I was taught by catholic teachings. You shoild be more concerned in those words of the bible. Makes god out as a mentally challenged being. I find that worrisome to be helpless to a mentally ill being. Not my words in that book. Reading those words is of a troubled being. Could'nt br of a supreme being,therefore the bible us a book of lies printed by controlling people whose only way to rule a large populace is to fabricate a being no one could see,hear or battle with. Scare them all into submission. Obviously it worked. Today it's called brainwashing. Those not independant still neef to have that guidance. You for one.
Should I or anyone else be suprised you don'r believe in the Bible or God?
It is obvious by your perverted chosen life style.
You wouldn't be in the trouble you are in tody had you studied a little harder in the Bible.
Since you brought it up do you have a problem with the Ten Commandments?
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I simply address the issues you brought up. How is that an attack?
I address you issues. Do you always bring up a series of unrelated topics?
What is the Gay Lobby?
I don't give a rat's ass about the Traditional Values Coalition.
FYI, the 10% represents the LGBT community which is actually larger because many people live in denial.
So now you just add a little for "denial"?
FYI you can lie all day but please when adressing fact bring a link.
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I simply address the issues you brought up. How is that an attack?
I address you issues. Do you always bring up a series of unrelated topics?
What is the Gay Lobby?
I don't give a rat's ass about the Traditional Values Coalition.
FYI, the 10% represents the LGBT community which is actually larger because many people live in denial.
I never heard of Traditional values Coalition. Whatever/whoever they are,will put out their "findings"as the only info. I go by unbiased sources. U.S. census I go by. Also not one but several newsreports. Never just one source. Not all gays are out,as you say,in denial. Just as the guy I'm intimate with. Claims to be hetero. Just 2 hours ago he was here for a "quickie". How many more like him denying as BIsexual?
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What can I say---you are just one sad individual.
You have no right to infringe on an establishment like marriage.
I have never said you can't sleep with your dog have I.
You know fool if you and yours had just kept your personal life personal none of this would have happened. You got to drag your perversion down the street for all to see.
You have no rights that fly in the face of a civilized society.
It is like walking down the street naked. You have the right but you will be arrested, unless it is just a gay pride event. hehe
Sure I have a right. Anyone has the right to equality. Why do you think there was a 2 day protest in Washigton D.C.? Marriage not doing so well among you heteros. With so many. Marrying-divorcing-remarrying and repeat. If so scared,its not treated as such among heteros. A mockery of that established idea of matrimony ( then alimony). Again with insults. I don't sleep with animals sicko! I bet you masterbate reading your bible. How do you like it when insulted? I tire of heteroism flaunted I my face eith dport junkies and fat Friday and Mardi Gras and springbreakers. You don't reply to those sickening hetero public displays. You avoid replying to what the bible shows of the "all to human fallicies" that the bible tells of this being that would be institutionalized for hid actions.
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Should I or anyone else be suprised you don'r believe in the Bible or God?
It is obvious by your perverted chosen life style.
You wouldn't be in the trouble you are in tody had you studied a little harder in the Bible.
Since you brought it up do you have a problem with the Ten Commandments?
Perversion is living by the bibull. What trouble you claim I to be having? Began studying the bibull. That is why I stopped ad I ssid before. Bibull incriminates its content. Not I.
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The break down is roughly 4% of each LGB. The T part is somewhat unknowable but a modest estimate would be around 0.5% of the total population with some kind of a gender issue. Do the math, this is higher than 10% correct?
You fool are the one who just said 10%, now it's more?
Now you want to just pull numbers out of your gender confused butt?
Go look at the studies--2-3%
Now as far as the ones who are ashamed of what they do well friend you just don't count them. Got that math thing down yet?
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<quoted text> Perversion is living by the bibull. What trouble you claim I to be having? Began studying the bibull. That is why I stopped ad I ssid before. Bibull incriminates its content. Not I.
Have you noticed how your spelling goes all to hell when you start talking bad about the Bible?
"What trouble you claim I to be having"--see what I mean?
You sound like a child with a chip on his shoulder, nothing more.
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The Ten Commandments. God let decades go by for his suffering people. Tjen chooses a spokesman. Pharoh denies the commands from Mosses ( as middleman to god)and so brings forth various examples to change the pharohs mind ( fitr and brimstone-turning water to blood,etc). Then days of darkness. Finally agrees to let the slaves go. Later decides to bring the slaves back amd goes after them with an army. God blo ks them with a wall of fire while parting thr Red sea. Before the slaves finish crossing,lets down the fire and tje egyptions give chase. Then lets the water fall on them drowning them. Much simpler and more sensible and caring to just put the egyptions go to sleep as he did to Adam and let the slaves to easily,safely leave, reach the other side of the Red sea before awakening the egyptions. That's the type of god I'd respect and admire.
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Have you noticed how your spelling goes all to hell when you start talking bad about the Bible?
"What trouble you claim I to be having"--see what I mean?
You sound like a child with a chip on his shoulder, nothing more.
Purposely spelling -bibull. Get it? Another way I may decide to spell it- Bye-bull as in in "goodbye to bull s**t",bi as in bisexual bull contents. I noticed how your hatespeech has your thoughts twisted in a SINister manner.
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Vick Torre wrote:
The Ten Commandments. God let decades go by for his suffering people. Tjen chooses a spokesman. Pharoh denies the commands from Mosses ( as middleman to god)and so brings forth various examples to change the pharohs mind ( fitr and brimstone-turning water to blood,etc). Then days of darkness. Finally agrees to let the slaves go. Later decides to bring the slaves back amd goes after them with an army. God blo ks them with a wall of fire while parting thr Red sea. Before the slaves finish crossing,lets down the fire and tje egyptions give chase. Then lets the water fall on them drowning them. Much simpler and more sensible and caring to just put the egyptions go to sleep as he did to Adam and let the slaves to easily,safely leave, reach the other side of the Red sea before awakening the egyptions. That's the type of god I'd respect and admire.
You would not "respect" any form of G-d, let's be serious.
If Pharaoh had been a man of his word he would have still had his men. Keep in mind his hard headedness already cost him his son.
G-d thought Pharaoh would do what he said he would so there was no reason to put them to sleep.
Like I said sometimes it doesn't pay to mess with my G-d.
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<quoted text> Purposely spelling -bibull. Get it? Another way I may decide to spell it- Bye-bull as in in "goodbye to bull s**t",bi as in bisexual bull contents. I noticed how your hatespeech has your thoughts twisted in a SINister manner.
How you spell the Holy Bible was not what I was talking about. I have seen you before so I know what to expect from you.
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Have you noticed how your spelling goes all to hell when you start talking bad about the Bible?
"What trouble you claim I to be having"--see what I mean?
You sound like a child with a chip on his shoulder, nothing more."

Do you see the quote there my dim witted friend? Do you?
You are a classless little girl.
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How you spell the Holy Bible was not what I was talking about. I have seen you before so I know what to expect from you.
SHADOW wrote:
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Have you noticed how your spelling goes all to hell when you start talking bad about the Bible?
"What trouble you claim I to be having"--see what I mean?
You sound like a child with a chip on his shoulder, nothing more."
Do you see the quote there my dim witted friend? Do you?
You are a classless little girl.
Dim witted? There you go again. Can't get a message out without insults and you wonder why those like us reject your religion. Not too smart to fiqure that out. Further more I explained my stance on religion. I don't care who practices whatever faith. Can't hate something not real. Yet you continue to say I have a chip on my shoulder. I keep trying to debate civilly and you cannot. That's what a classless little girl is. As your hissy fits demonstrate. Attempts to speak at lower levels has'nt reached you. I guess only indults interest you and this forum as just a vehicle to take you there.
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You would not "respect" any form of G-d, let's be serious.
If Pharaoh had been a man of his word he would have still had his men. Keep in mind his hard headedness already cost him his son.
G-d thought Pharaoh would do what he said he would so there was no reason to put them to sleep.
Like I said sometimes it doesn't pay to mess with my G-d.
How does anyone respect something not real? Answer-when a person is delusional. Sure god could put them to sleep. He knew well of the suffering and cruelty done to them. And god just thought the guy would simply say OK? Just let go all that free labor. Sure, oh gullable one!

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Interest in anal, I am not interested in "you" I was only posting.
How do you practice sex anyway?
Large percentage----Link please.
You are the one bringing it up. I couldn't care less one way or the other.

Go on line check out the porn sites all catering to anal sex with women. A simple extrapolation would show that many more heterosexual men practice anal sex with women than homosexual men with other men.

"The survey, released last year, showed that 38.2 percent of men between 20 and 39 and 32.6 percent of women ages 18 to 44 engage in heterosexual anal sex. Compare that with the CDCís 1992 National Health and Social Life survey, which found that only 25.6 percent of men 18 to 59 and 20.4 percent of women 18 to 59 indulged in it."
http://nymag.com/nightlife/mating/25988/

Here is the math. Let's say 35% of the heterosexual population which for the sake of argument is 85% of the total population engages in anal sex. That is 29% of the total population doing so.

Let's take the gay population doing anal sex at a rate of let's say 60%. Then we take 4%@ 60%= 2% of the total. 29% > 2%. You lose.

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So now you just add a little for "denial"?
FYI you can lie all day but please when adressing fact bring a link.
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<quoted text> I never heard of Traditional values Coalition. Whatever/whoever they are,will put out their "findings"as the only info. I go by unbiased sources. U.S. census I go by. Also not one but several newsreports. Never just one source. Not all gays are out,as you say,in denial. Just as the guy I'm intimate with. Claims to be hetero. Just 2 hours ago he was here for a "quickie". How many more like him denying as BIsexual?
They are just another self-righteous, anti-gay hate group.

Who cares what they think?
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As a "rite of passage" when young guys hit age 21. What was prohibited now allowed. My co-workers and I went on a "night on the town" to explore these new ventures. The bars we went that had nude female dancers. Up on stage surrounded by single and married guys. Oggleing the female form at eye level. Some with G-strings as a place for patrons to put money in. Then to adult stores to look at what'ts on sale in videos. Every kind of imageinable sex acts on the boxes. I looked for gay when on my own. Vast more avalability of hetero sex shops/stores in ratio to gay. Now there is the internet. Still vastly more hetero in ratio yo gay. So where does the focus on perversions go? On gays. Yet those vile sex acts no where get as much damnation as gays get.

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