Homosexuality and the Bible

Aug 15, 2011 Full story: www.smh.com.au 27,118

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

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Vick Torre

United States

#17428 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
How you spell the Holy Bible was not what I was talking about. I have seen you before so I know what to expect from you.
SHADOW wrote:
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Have you noticed how your spelling goes all to hell when you start talking bad about the Bible?
"What trouble you claim I to be having"--see what I mean?
You sound like a child with a chip on his shoulder, nothing more."
Do you see the quote there my dim witted friend? Do you?
You are a classless little girl.
Dim witted? There you go again. Can't get a message out without insults and you wonder why those like us reject your religion. Not too smart to fiqure that out. Further more I explained my stance on religion. I don't care who practices whatever faith. Can't hate something not real. Yet you continue to say I have a chip on my shoulder. I keep trying to debate civilly and you cannot. That's what a classless little girl is. As your hissy fits demonstrate. Attempts to speak at lower levels has'nt reached you. I guess only indults interest you and this forum as just a vehicle to take you there.
Vick Torre

United States

#17429 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
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You would not "respect" any form of G-d, let's be serious.
If Pharaoh had been a man of his word he would have still had his men. Keep in mind his hard headedness already cost him his son.
G-d thought Pharaoh would do what he said he would so there was no reason to put them to sleep.
Like I said sometimes it doesn't pay to mess with my G-d.
How does anyone respect something not real? Answer-when a person is delusional. Sure god could put them to sleep. He knew well of the suffering and cruelty done to them. And god just thought the guy would simply say OK? Just let go all that free labor. Sure, oh gullable one!

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#17430 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
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Interest in anal, I am not interested in "you" I was only posting.
How do you practice sex anyway?
Large percentage----Link please.
You are the one bringing it up. I couldn't care less one way or the other.

Go on line check out the porn sites all catering to anal sex with women. A simple extrapolation would show that many more heterosexual men practice anal sex with women than homosexual men with other men.

"The survey, released last year, showed that 38.2 percent of men between 20 and 39 and 32.6 percent of women ages 18 to 44 engage in heterosexual anal sex. Compare that with the CDCís 1992 National Health and Social Life survey, which found that only 25.6 percent of men 18 to 59 and 20.4 percent of women 18 to 59 indulged in it."
http://nymag.com/nightlife/mating/25988/

Here is the math. Let's say 35% of the heterosexual population which for the sake of argument is 85% of the total population engages in anal sex. That is 29% of the total population doing so.

Let's take the gay population doing anal sex at a rate of let's say 60%. Then we take 4%@ 60%= 2% of the total. 29% > 2%. You lose.

NEXT

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#17431 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
So now you just add a little for "denial"?
FYI you can lie all day but please when adressing fact bring a link.
Ad hominem repy Dismissed

NEXT

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#17432 Apr 1, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> I never heard of Traditional values Coalition. Whatever/whoever they are,will put out their "findings"as the only info. I go by unbiased sources. U.S. census I go by. Also not one but several newsreports. Never just one source. Not all gays are out,as you say,in denial. Just as the guy I'm intimate with. Claims to be hetero. Just 2 hours ago he was here for a "quickie". How many more like him denying as BIsexual?
They are just another self-righteous, anti-gay hate group.

Who cares what they think?
Vick Torre

United States

#17433 Apr 1, 2013
As a "rite of passage" when young guys hit age 21. What was prohibited now allowed. My co-workers and I went on a "night on the town" to explore these new ventures. The bars we went that had nude female dancers. Up on stage surrounded by single and married guys. Oggleing the female form at eye level. Some with G-strings as a place for patrons to put money in. Then to adult stores to look at what'ts on sale in videos. Every kind of imageinable sex acts on the boxes. I looked for gay when on my own. Vast more avalability of hetero sex shops/stores in ratio to gay. Now there is the internet. Still vastly more hetero in ratio yo gay. So where does the focus on perversions go? On gays. Yet those vile sex acts no where get as much damnation as gays get.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#17434 Apr 1, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
As a "rite of passage" when young guys hit age 21. What was prohibited now allowed. My co-workers and I went on a "night on the town" to explore these new ventures. The bars we went that had nude female dancers. Up on stage surrounded by single and married guys. Oggleing the female form at eye level. Some with G-strings as a place for patrons to put money in. Then to adult stores to look at what'ts on sale in videos. Every kind of imageinable sex acts on the boxes. I looked for gay when on my own. Vast more avalability of hetero sex shops/stores in ratio to gay. Now there is the internet. Still vastly more hetero in ratio yo gay. So where does the focus on perversions go? On gays. Yet those vile sex acts no where get as much damnation as gays get.
Exactly. Exploitation they say!!!

Sometimes I wonder who is zooming who.
Vick Torre

United States

#17435 Apr 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
They are just another self-righteous, anti-gay hate group.
Who cares what they think?
I don't care what they say. It's the voting,money put out to deny a small percentage their rights. Latest need is like 58% heteros supporting gsy marriage. Those religious rightwingers have no one else to cruxify except gays. They see us as a safe easy target to justify themselves as so damned rightteousness and fear losing what litltle grounds to rant about their quests for holiness. General population is seeing them for what they are. Charlatans. They should focus on their own ills. The results will show if there is improvement in themselves for all to see. In other words,let them put their money where their mouth is.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17437 Apr 2, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!!!.... Well,.....
I went back and found Vic Torre's first post on this thread.
It is post #17199.
In this post, Vic Torre insults no one, instead merely expressing a personal view from his own experience.
I replied, wondering if his view might be somewhat limited. Although, I expressed my opinion, based upon the fact that all of our objective experiences leave us with a limited viewpoint, that reply could still be construed as an insult.
Then, in post 17207, Kimare replied, saying, "Maybe you are the problem."
Clearly, that was intended as an insult, even if only subtly offensive. It implies that any fault for a limited view should be put back onto Vic Torre.
Seems Torre's assertion that the religious always insult first has some basis in fact.
Rev. Ken
1. My statement is hardly an insult.

2. Even if it were, it does not validate his assertion.

3. How often is there unsolicited sacrilegious comments on here?

Get real rev.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17438 Apr 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
The break down is roughly 4% of each LGB. The T part is somewhat unknowable but a modest estimate would be around 0.5% of the total population with some kind of a gender issue. Do the math, this is higher than 10% correct?
Gay twirl BS lies.

Again.

From a gay site;

http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/a/popul...

"The Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law, a sexual orientation law and public policy think tank, estimates that 9 million (about 3.8%) of Americans identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender (2011)."

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17439 Apr 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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What is your interest in anal sex? Did you know that the larger percentage of people practicing anal sex are heterosexual?
Another lie.

Percentage of homosexuals who practice anal sex; 66%

Percentage of heterosexuals who practice anal sex; less than 10%

Interesting article;

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who...
201102/back-door-psychology

Another one about the demeaning nature of anal sex for gays;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/
anal-sex-heterosexual-couples- report_n_1190440.html
Jade

Pekin, IL

#17440 Apr 2, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> I don't care what they say. It's the voting,money put out to deny a small percentage their rights. Latest need is like 58% heteros supporting gsy marriage. Those religious rightwingers have no one else to cruxify except gays. They see us as a safe easy target to justify themselves as so damned rightteousness and fear losing what litltle grounds to rant about their quests for holiness. General population is seeing them for what they are. Charlatans. They should focus on their own ills. The results will show if there is improvement in themselves for all to see. In other words,let them put their money where their mouth is.
You are a very sick anti-religious bigot.

Better get professional help and soon!

Do you really think any amount of hate and bigotry on your part will change the fact that the Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior?

Did you really think this thread has ANYTHING to do with hate based radical homosexual efforts to undemocratically force the concocted, failed philosophy of homosexual 'marriage' into law?

Did you miss the fact that some state marriage amendments received over 80% majorities?
Vick Torre

Newark, NJ

#17442 Apr 2, 2013
Jade wrote:
<quoted text>You are a very sick anti-religious bigot.
Better get professional help and soon!
Do you really think any amount of hate and bigotry on your part will change the fact that the Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior?
Did you really think this thread has ANYTHING to do with hate based radical homosexual efforts to undemocratically force the concocted, failed philosophy of homosexual 'marriage' into law?
Did you miss the fact that some state marriage amendments received over 80% majorities?
Not sounding like sound mind ftom you. I seek truth. Don't see it in religion. How can "homosexual marriage"failed philosophy not work? What is homosexual marriage philosophy? I know of none. What I know is it would be the same as with heteros. Sec acts are a small part of marriage. Maybe you and your guy do it constantly? If not than gay couples would do the same as hetero counterparts. Go to work. Pay bills. Housechores. Food shopping.paying taxes. And so on. Gay couples have been living together before you were born. Did'nt change your precious hetero way of life. Neither would a gay couple change yours now.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#17443 Apr 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay twirl BS lies.
Again.
From a gay site;
http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/a/popul...
"The Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law, a sexual orientation law and public policy think tank, estimates that 9 million (about 3.8%) of Americans identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender (2011)."
Smirk.
YAWN. I'll go with the CDC stats.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#17444 Apr 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Another lie.
Percentage of homosexuals who practice anal sex; 66%
Percentage of heterosexuals who practice anal sex; less than 10%
Interesting article;
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who...
201102/back-door-psychology
Another one about the demeaning nature of anal sex for gays;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/
anal-sex-heterosexual-couples- report_n_1190440.html
So? 66% of 3% is 1% of the total population.

1% < 10%

Do the math.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17445 Apr 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
YAWN. I'll go with the CDC stats.
I'm shocked!
Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17446 Apr 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
So? 66% of 3% is 1% of the total population.
1% < 10%
Do the math.
You said a greater percentage of heteros practice anal sex. They don't. Learn how to state stats.

None of this changes the fact that anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.

Smirk.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#17447 Apr 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You said a greater percentage of heteros practice anal sex. They don't. Learn how to state stats.
None of this changes the fact that anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
Smirk.
That's correct. A greater percentage of heteros do practice anal sex. You never asked for a clarification if that percentage was of the total population. Nobody really cares about your worthless personal opinion of anal sex either. If you don't like it, don't do it. Your nasty remarks are far more demeaning than any sex practice.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17448 Apr 2, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody really cares about your worthless personal opinion of anal sex either. If you don't like it, don't do it. Your nasty remarks are far more demeaning than any sex practice.
Hey, I didn't say it, the Huffington Post did.

Smile.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#17449 Apr 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, I didn't say it, the Huffington Post did.
Smile.
Your link to the Huffington Post said nothing about anal sex at all. Guess they don't care either.

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