Homosexuality and the Bible

Homosexuality and the Bible

There are 36038 comments on the www.smh.com.au story from Aug 15, 2011, titled Homosexuality and the Bible. In it, www.smh.com.au reports that:

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.smh.com.au.

Robsan5

San Leandro, CA

#17243 Mar 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Vick,
I agree that not all religions can be right. Personally, the key question I approached with was, what about brokenness? Or sin? Why does every human express selfishness, hatred, anger, theft, deceit and worse? How does any belief system explain and deal with it. I found the Judeo/Christian faith the best at answering that question. I still have numerous unanswered questions however.
I am perplexed by your continued skepticism. Your question is very simple to me. Either there is no God, or there is a God and He is not interested in you, or you are lying about your sincere search. I don't see any other options, do you?
Smile.
Lucky for you, I've made a list of the numerous questions you haven't answered, Genius:

Please prove your assertion that homosexuality is a mistake of genetic epi-markers.
Please prove your assertion that the article Regnerus wrote has received awards.
Please prove your assertion that the sun is a form of radiation.
Please prove your assertion that god evolved into Adam.
Please prove your assertion that Adam was evolved, not created.
Please prove your assertion that god is genderless.
Please prove your assertion that 80% of all seafood poisoning is from shellfish.
Please prove your assertion that eve is created in god's image.
Please prove your assertion that radiation caused Moses' face to shine.
Please prove your assertion that the biblical use of the word 'shine' means 'glow'.
Please prove your assertion that god can reduce radiation exposure by holding out his hand or turning his back.
Please prove your assertion that god is radioactive.
Please prove that homosexual is a better translation for the word that it replaced in bibles in 1946.

Snicker Snort.(Suck blow suck, NoIQ!)

Robert

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17244 Mar 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>

Am I missing something?
Yes, a life.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17245 Mar 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>

Am I missing something?
Yes, a personality.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17246 Mar 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>

Am I missing something?
Yes, compassion.
Robsan5

San Leandro, CA

#17248 Mar 21, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, compassion.
Dammit, I was gonna do these!

Robert

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17249 Mar 22, 2013
This from lying twits who deny reality.

Do you have a reasoned logical response to my facts?

No.

Hence twin trolls.

Smile.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#17250 Mar 22, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
Was Jude (a servant of Christ jesus and brother of James) not a Jew? He thought Sodom's sin was sexual immorality and perversion.
Jude 1-7.
Written WELL after the original Apostles were dead.

BTW, James was the brother of Jesus....

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#17251 Mar 22, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
Was Jude (a servant of Christ jesus and brother of James) not a Jew? He thought Sodom's sin was sexual immorality and perversion.
Jude 1-7.
That tract is problematic.

Jude is considered to be a part of the "canon", yet quotes and refers to sources that are not similarly canonical in either Jewish or Xian traditions.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#17252 Mar 22, 2013

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#17253 Mar 22, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> You're saying I'm limited. You disagree with the bible that we were created of the "dust of the earth"? That Eve created from Adams rib? If so then that backs my statement that we are made of the same materials just rearranged for various purpose. Therefore male-male, female- female, male- female physiology would'nt matter.
I don't think you are limited, anymore than any of the rest of us.

But, I do understand that a person's faith is often a matter of their own willingness to watch for and put a stop to unnecessary self-imposed limitations.

Not every prayer gets answered, thank God. But, I think some do. And, if your point is that you are simply a thermodynamics realist, then I counter with the idea that, at some level, ideas are energy and they do affect creation. How effective prayer is or may be might actually have to do with the competition of ideas and the energy mustered to bring about their manifestation.

I have no idea of whether or not a person named Eve was "cloned" in female form. If so, the story would suggest that Adam was male only even when there were no female humans. That is or would have been, shall we say, highly unlikely.

A lot of people take creation stories literally. I do not.

Rev. Ken
Vick Torre

Arlington, VA

#17254 Mar 22, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think you are limited, anymore than any of the rest of us.
But, I do understand that a person's faith is often a matter of their own willingness to watch for and put a stop to unnecessary self-imposed limitations.
Not every prayer gets answered, thank God. But, I think some do. And, if your point is that you are simply a thermodynamics realist, then I counter with the idea that, at some level, ideas are energy and they do affect creation. How effective prayer is or may be might actually have to do with the competition of ideas and the energy mustered to bring about their manifestation.
I have no idea of whether or not a person named Eve was "cloned" in female form. If so, the story would suggest that Adam was male only even when there were no female humans. That is or would have been, shall we say, highly unlikely.
A lot of people take creation stories literally. I do not.
Rev. Ken
As far as can be examined/studied, all this universe is composed of energy. That energy binds together, like snowflakes to form tangable matter. This is known as "string theory". One of my unanswered questions about gods creation of us has been: If all the matter in the universe was created, stars-planets-people, then why would god take a rib from Adam to create woman? Run out of material? Man is not missing a rib. There's problem #1.
Vick Torre

Arlington, VA

#17255 Mar 22, 2013
Problem #2. Suppose you and your wife steal from a bank. You 2 get caught. Go before a judge for sentencing. The judge decides that while he's at it, includes your entire family, even the ones yet to be born,to pay for your crime. Even humans are'nt that cruel. Who would deem that fair? God does. So this loving being curses all of us and the sufferings placed on us,then sends his only son to be tortured and die to pay for us? And he did no crime to boot!! That's certifiable insanity.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#17256 Mar 22, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> As far as can be examined/studied, all this universe is composed of energy. That energy binds together, like snowflakes to form tangable matter. This is known as "string theory". One of my unanswered questions about gods creation of us has been: If all the matter in the universe was created, stars-planets-people, then why would god take a rib from Adam to create woman? Run out of material? Man is not missing a rib. There's problem #1.
The fact of the matter is it is simply a mythological teaching story. It never actually happened.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17257 Mar 22, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
Problem #2. Suppose you and your wife steal from a bank. You 2 get caught. Go before a judge for sentencing. The judge decides that while he's at it, includes your entire family, even the ones yet to be born,to pay for your crime. Even humans are'nt that cruel. Who would deem that fair? God does. So this loving being curses all of us and the sufferings placed on us,then sends his only son to be tortured and die to pay for us? And he did no crime to boot!! That's certifiable insanity.
Vick,

1. Jesus promised problems for followers. Where did you get otherwise?

2. The universe was created outr of nothing. The bible and science agree about that.

3. No one is judged for someone else's sins.

Just these mistakes confirm my suspicion about the sincerity of your quest.

I would also suggest you reread my previous post. You clearly misunderstood what it said.

Smile
Robsan5

San Leandro, CA

#17258 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
This from lying twits who deny reality.
Do you have a reasoned logical response to my facts?
No.
Hence twin trolls.
Smile.
You mean these "facts", Genius?

Please prove your assertion that homosexuality is a mistake of genetic epi-markers.
Please prove your assertion that the article Regnerus wrote has received awards.
Please prove your assertion that the sun is a form of radiation.
Please prove your assertion that god evolved into Adam.
Please prove your assertion that Adam was evolved, not created.
Please prove your assertion that god is genderless.
Please prove your assertion that 80% of all seafood poisoning is from shellfish.
Please prove your assertion that eve is created in god's image.
Please prove your assertion that radiation caused Moses' face to shine.
Please prove your assertion that the biblical use of the word 'shine' means 'glow'.
Please prove your assertion that god can reduce radiation exposure by holding out his hand or turning his back.
Please prove your assertion that god is radioactive.
Please prove that homosexual is a better translation for the word that it replaced in bibles in 1946.

Snicker Snort.(Suck blow suck, NoIQ!)

Robert
Robsan5

San Leandro, CA

#17259 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
...
2. The universe was created outr of nothing. The bible and science agree about that.
...
Science just ain't your fortè, is it, Genius. No true scientist would ever say that something can come from nothing. Things, such as as energy and matter, can be converted into each other, but you you can't get something from nothing. Much like your posts.
You better study up on the Big Bang theory.
Then try answering some of your other stupid claims:

Please prove your assertion that homosexuality is a mistake of genetic epi-markers.
Please prove your assertion that the article Regnerus wrote has received awards.
Please prove your assertion that the sun is a form of radiation.
Please prove your assertion that god evolved into Adam.
Please prove your assertion that Adam was evolved, not created.
Please prove your assertion that god is genderless.
Please prove your assertion that 80% of all seafood poisoning is from shellfish.
Please prove your assertion that eve is created in god's image.
Please prove your assertion that radiation caused Moses' face to shine.
Please prove your assertion that the biblical use of the word 'shine' means 'glow'.
Please prove your assertion that god can reduce radiation exposure by holding out his hand or turning his back.
Please prove your assertion that god is radioactive.
Please prove that homosexual is a better translation for the word that it replaced in bibles in 1946.

Snicker Snort.(Suck blow suck, NoIQ!)

Robert
Vick Torre

Arlington, VA

#17260 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Vick,
1. Jesus promised problems for followers. Where did you get otherwise?
2. The universe was created outr of nothing. The bible and science agree about that.
3. No one is judged for someone else's sins.
Just these mistakes confirm my suspicion about the sincerity of your quest.
I would also suggest you reread my previous post. You clearly misunderstood what it said.
Smile
Robsan5 is correct. I speak of long BEFORE Jesus. You know,Adam and Eve. Mankind was cursed and all of their children thereafter for the sin those 2 did. Everybody knows that. Than cast out if Eden and made to suffer. Science and the bible do not agree about creation out of nothing! And yes we were cursed for the sins of others. That's in the bible and you say its not! B.S.. Clearly you misread the bible. I doubt your sincerity by twisting what had been rammed into my consciousness all these years. Just as I posted here about Adam and Eve's sin and all mankind paying for it. Remember the cruifixtion? Jesus being crucififed to pay for past-present-future? Because god knew we are "damaged goods" and not worthy to enter heaven which applies to those NOT YET BORN. Jesus purpose of being born was about paying for sins not yet committed. Because all have failed to live sinless lives. So,god stays hidden and has others speak for him. Supposedly has others write for him instead of letting himself tell us what he wants. Simply and much more effectively have all humans receive a message in our minds. Now that would be impressive! Everyone on this world at the same time receive his word telepathically! That would convince all and without god showing himself in person.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17261 Mar 22, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> Robsan5 is correct. I speak of long BEFORE Jesus. You know,Adam and Eve. Mankind was cursed and all of their children thereafter for the sin those 2 did. Everybody knows that. Than cast out if Eden and made to suffer. Science and the bible do not agree about creation out of nothing! And yes we were cursed for the sins of others. That's in the bible and you say its not! B.S.. Clearly you misread the bible. I doubt your sincerity by twisting what had been rammed into my consciousness all these years. Just as I posted here about Adam and Eve's sin and all mankind paying for it. Remember the cruifixtion? Jesus being crucififed to pay for past-present-future? Because god knew we are "damaged goods" and not worthy to enter heaven which applies to those NOT YET BORN. Jesus purpose of being born was about paying for sins not yet committed. Because all have failed to live sinless lives. So,god stays hidden and has others speak for him. Supposedly has others write for him instead of letting himself tell us what he wants. Simply and much more effectively have all humans receive a message in our minds. Now that would be impressive! Everyone on this world at the same time receive his word telepathically! That would convince all and without god showing himself in person.
Well I guess that settles it. You are right and God is wrong! And how easy it was. Makes me wonder how He ever got that title in the first place!!!

I bet you could switch places with Him. Especially since He's not talking to you, maybe THAT would get Him to answer!

Oh, god Vick, just wondering. At the moment of the Big Bang, what did the universe begin expanding from?

Snicker.
Robsan5

San Leandro, CA

#17262 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I guess that settles it. You are right and God is wrong! And how easy it was. Makes me wonder how He ever got that title in the first place!!!
I bet you could switch places with Him. Especially since He's not talking to you, maybe THAT would get Him to answer!
Oh, god Vick, just wondering. At the moment of the Big Bang, what did the universe begin expanding from?
Snicker.
Hey Genius, you haven't done the homework I assigned you.
Here's some questions YOU still haven't answered:

Please prove your assertion that science thinks that something can be made from nothing.
Please prove your assertion that homosexuality is a mistake of genetic epi-markers.
Please prove your assertion that the article Regnerus wrote has received awards.
Please prove your assertion that the sun is a form of radiation.
Please prove your assertion that god evolved into Adam.
Please prove your assertion that Adam was evolved, not created.
Please prove your assertion that god is genderless.
Please prove your assertion that 80% of all seafood poisoning is from shellfish.
Please prove your assertion that eve is created in god's image.
Please prove your assertion that radiation caused Moses' face to shine.
Please prove your assertion that the biblical use of the word 'shine' means 'glow'.
Please prove your assertion that god can reduce radiation exposure by holding out his hand or turning his back.
Please prove your assertion that god is radioactive.
Please prove that homosexual is a better translation for the word that it replaced in bibles in 1946.

Snicker Snort.(Suck blow suck, NoIQ!)

Robert
Vick Torre

Arlington, VA

#17263 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I guess that settles it. You are right and God is wrong! And how easy it was. Makes me wonder how He ever got that title in the first place!!!
I bet you could switch places with Him. Especially since He's not talking to you, maybe THAT would get Him to answer!
Oh, god Vick, just wondering. At the moment of the Big Bang, what did the universe begin expanding from?
Snicker.
IF GOD is there,I don't think he'd be wrong. It'd the bible I challenge. No way of knowing who wrote it. A supreme bring certainly could write a better book. Humans wrote better than what I read from tat bible. I conclude it is not the word of god- mans word scammed yo prople as it being gods word. The big bang came from energy bonding together-like snow flakes (as a laymans way of explaining) condensed which generates heat (like a pile of leaves) till intense enough to explode-which I explained before. Where did god come from? See,this no one csn answer. The concept of either matter or god of just simply always existed is difficult to digest. However here we all are. So one or the other is true. And I would never claim to be god or switch places. You're really going ovetboard here. I just want to know what happened in the beginning. Not good enough just to take someones word for how it all began nor some old book. IF it made sense I'd have my questions answered. So far the string theory makes more sense.
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