Homosexuality and the Bible

Aug 15, 2011 | Posted by: Selecia Jones- JAX FL | Full story: www.smh.com.au

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

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'rev'
You stop your quotation right before this paragraph;
"I recite these numbers to make a point of my own that fairly leaps off the pages of Regnerus’s work: that family instability is the characteristic experience of those whose parents have same-sex relationships. This is what Regnerus is getting ...
Are you on the Regnerus payroll, or is he blowing you? Your continued ass kissing is completely irrational.

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KiMare wrote:
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'rev'
You stop your quotation right before this paragraph;
"I recite these numbers to make a point of my own that fairly leaps off the pages of Regnerus’s work: that family instability is the characteristic experience of those whose parents have same-sex relationships. This is what Regnerus is getting at when he says that critics who want him to treat stability as a “control variable” are actually “controlling for the pathways.” To go on an endless search for a sizable random sample of long-term, stable same-sex couples raising children is to miss the social reality in front of us, namely that they are conspicuously missing from the lives of children whose parents have same-sex relationships."
In other words, you deceived again...
Nor do you post a professional review of the study. I did, and you deliberately distorted it. Why would a legitimate cause need such tactics from a 'rev'???
Moreover, the study fully exposes it's study methods. The type of study that Regnerus conducted is fully acceptable, especially because of it's size. The lesbian studies purporting equality to natural families don't, except for one, and peer reviews expose the numerous biased methods it used.
The bottom line is the Regnerus study is the largest, latest, most scientific study to date on seven family types. Lesbian couples rate last, after single parents.
Oh, and one more thing. You lie. Consistently.
Smile.
Excuse me, Mr. Kimare.

I did not deceive. You posted the link and anyone can go read it.

I specifically avoided quoting the paragraph you note because it does not cite statistics or facts. Instead, this paragraph is full of the writer's own opinions and excuses for the obvious shallowness of the Regnerus conclusions.

Let me ask you a couple of questions:

Which is better for a child: Should a parentless child be abandoned to the street and encouraged to forage on his or her own?
or
Should a parentless child be placed in an orphanage.

Which provides the better rearing environment?

???

Likewise, which is better for a child?:

To be raised by a single, divorced, now celibate, biological parent who is the actual mother or father and who is also either lesbian or gay?

Or, to be taken away from the single parent as a ward of the state and raised by two heterosexual parents, having been placed in their care by adoption?

???

What does the Regnerus report say?

As to your assertions, they are your own opinions. There is no "bottom line" to the Regnerus studies. They are paid internet poll questionaire based. The conclusions drawn are flawed.

What's more, the report makes assumptions based upon a supposed "ranking" of stereotypical family life without sufficient participation by specific respondents.

But, no qualitative conclusions can be drawn by such a study. Unless a full psychological assessment is made of each of the individual adult respondents through extensive personal interview by a group of qualified professionals, no definitive conclusion can be drawn about the effectiveness and substantive nature of the rearing environment.

The Regnerus scope goes nowhere near such an essential depth of research.

...

As for lying, your continued assertions and accusations have no foundation in truth. So, who is lying here?

Me, because I do not accept your assumptions? Or YOU, because you say so?

Let the reader of these posts understand.

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Excuse me, Mr. Kimare.
I did not deceive. You posted the link and anyone can go read it.
I specifically avoided quoting the paragraph you note because it does not cite statistics or facts. Instead, this paragraph is full of the writer's own opinions and excuses for the obvious shallowness of the Regnerus conclusions.
Let me ask you a couple of questions:
Which is better for a child: Should a parentless child be abandoned to the street and encouraged to forage on his or her own?
or
Should a parentless child be placed in an orphanage.
Which provides the better rearing environment?
???
Likewise, which is better for a child?:
To be raised by a single, divorced, now celibate, biological parent who is the actual mother or father and who is also either lesbian or gay?
Or, to be taken away from the single parent as a ward of the state and raised by two heterosexual parents, having been placed in their care by adoption?
???
What does the Regnerus report say?
As to your assertions, they are your own opinions. There is no "bottom line" to the Regnerus studies. They are paid internet poll questionaire based. The conclusions drawn are flawed.
What's more, the report makes assumptions based upon a supposed "ranking" of stereotypical family life without sufficient participation by specific respondents.
But, no qualitative conclusions can be drawn by such a study. Unless a full psychological assessment is made of each of the individual adult respondents through extensive personal interview by a group of qualified professionals, no definitive conclusion can be drawn about the effectiveness and substantive nature of the rearing environment.
The Regnerus scope goes nowhere near such an essential depth of research.
...
As for lying, your continued assertions and accusations have no foundation in truth. So, who is lying here?
Me, because I do not accept your assumptions? Or YOU, because you say so?
Let the reader of these posts understand.
Rev. Ken
Here's what the American Sociological Association had to say about the Regnerus 'study.'

http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2013/03...

Of course I'm so sure KiMerde thinks he knows better than the ASA.

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KiMare wrote:
Here are some sites that contradict your personal opinion;
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012...
R. Amato,“The Well-Being of Children with Gay and Lesbian Parents,” Social Science Research, Vol. 41, No. 4 (July 2012), pp. 771–774, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/... (accessed August 24, 2012)
David J. Eggebeen,“What Can We Learn from Studies of Children Raised by Gay or Lesbian Parents?” Social Science Research, Vol. 41, No. 4 (July 2012), pp. 775–778, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/... (accessed August 24, 2012)
Cynthia Osborne,“Further Comments on the Papers by Marks and Regnerus,” Social Science Research, Vol. 41, No. 4 (July 2012), pp. 779–783, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/... (accessed August 24, 2012).
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I doubt the word existed in the Bible in them pld days,,the Bible has been edited with modern words

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RevKen wrote:
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Excuse me, Mr. Kimare.
I did not deceive. You posted the link and anyone can go read it.
I specifically avoided quoting the paragraph you note because it does not cite statistics or facts. Instead, this paragraph is full of the writer's own opinions and excuses for the obvious shallowness of the Regnerus conclusions.
Let me ask you a couple of questions:
Which is better for a child: Should a parentless child be abandoned to the street and encouraged to forage on his or her own?
or
Should a parentless child be placed in an orphanage.
Which provides the better rearing environment?
???
Likewise, which is better for a child?:
To be raised by a single, divorced, now celibate, biological parent who is the actual mother or father and who is also either lesbian or gay?
Or, to be taken away from the single parent as a ward of the state and raised by two heterosexual parents, having been placed in their care by adoption?
???
What does the Regnerus report say?
As to your assertions, they are your own opinions. There is no "bottom line" to the Regnerus studies. They are paid internet poll questionaire based. The conclusions drawn are flawed.
What's more, the report makes assumptions based upon a supposed "ranking" of stereotypical family life without sufficient participation by specific respondents.
But, no qualitative conclusions can be drawn by such a study. Unless a full psychological assessment is made of each of the individual adult respondents through extensive personal interview by a group of qualified professionals, no definitive conclusion can be drawn about the effectiveness and substantive nature of the rearing environment.
The Regnerus scope goes nowhere near such an essential depth of research.
...
As for lying, your continued assertions and accusations have no foundation in truth. So, who is lying here?
Me, because I do not accept your assumptions? Or YOU, because you say so?
Let the reader of these posts understand.
Rev. Ken
I gave a list of lies, and you address only one by lying about your reason. At the least, you could have included his opinion so people could judge between his and your opinion. You didn't, because his makes perfect sense and fits the conclusions of the study.

As to your questions, are you serious? Why would you pose such stupid questions? Very rarely are circumstances limited to an either/or answer. Those most certainly are not.

My motive is to pursue the very best for those children. Yours motive is a foolish attempt to allow gay couples to look natural at the expense of the child. It is another example of why I call you 'rev', and the passage I quoted applies in Spirit and truth.

Again, you fail to post a professional review of the study, and foolishly attempt to misrepresent an accepted and common methodology. It only exposes a corrupt motive and ignorance.

The bottom line is this; The Regnerus study goes deeper than any other study to date with the largest and most scientific study of seven family types. Lesbian couples rated last. AFTER single parents. Gay couples did not even register...

Yes, let the reader understand these posts.

Smile.

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Here's what the American Sociological Association had to say about the Regnerus 'study.'
http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2013/03...
Of course I'm so sure KiMerde thinks he knows better than the ASA.
Just one question.

Where was the ASA when faulty, biased and clearly unscientific studies that promoted homosexual families were being promoted?

Not one word of question. Instead? They knowingly supported them.

Sorry hon, they clear lost their credibility.

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I doubt the word existed in the Bible in them pld days,,the Bible has been edited with modern words
The word would be translated, not edited idiot.

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Firstly there is no god he doesn't exist secondly the bible is an old inaccurate book that has no bearing on modern life

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more Regnerus VS.

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BS, that is

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KiMare wrote:
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Just one question.
Where was the ASA when faulty, biased and clearly unscientific studies that promoted homosexual families were being promoted?
Not one word of question. Instead? They knowingly supported them.
Sorry hon, they clear lost their credibility.
Smile.
Someone's got an ax to grind.
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Firstly there is no god he doesn't exist secondly the bible is an old inaccurate book that has no bearing on modern life
I can tell a lot about you from your post. First of all, you're a fagg@t, like me. Secondly, you're an atheist, like me. And last but not least, you're a pervert, like me, that goes for almost anything , including doing little boys.

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I gave a list of lies....
No, Genius, here is your list of lies:

Please prove your assertion that homosexuality is a mistake of genetic epi-markers.
Please prove your assertion that the article Regnerus wrote has received awards.
Please prove your assertion that the sun is a form of radiation.
Please prove your assertion that god evolved into Adam.
Please prove your assertion that Adam was evolved, not created.
Please prove your assertion that god is genderless.
Please prove your assertion that 80% of all seafood poisoning is from shellfish.
Please prove your assertion that eve is created in god's image.
Please prove your assertion that radiation caused Moses' face to shine.
Please prove your assertion that the biblical use of the word 'shine' means 'glow'.
Please prove your assertion that god can reduce radiation exposure by holding out his hand or turning his back.
Please prove your assertion that god is radioactive.
Please prove that homosexual is a better translation for the word that it replaced in bibles in 1946.

Snicker Snort.(Suck blow suck, NoIQ!)

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I can tell a lot about you from your post. First of all, you're a fagg@t, like me. Secondly, you're an atheist, like me. And last but not least, you're a pervert, like me, that goes for almost anything , including doing little boys.
Robert ( for anal and oral pleasure )
NoIQ, you should talk to someone about your repressed homosexual and pedophile obsessions. It can't be mentally healthy to keep all those sexual urges locked up in a closet.

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I'm still waiting for anyone to cite a Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in question the Bible's mand eplicit commands against all homosexual behavor.

Oh! That' right. There are NONE!
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Jon wrote:
I'm still waiting for anyone to cite a Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in question the Bible's mand eplicit commands against all homosexual behavor.
Oh! That' right. There are NONE!
Who cares?

The Bible is a Book of Lies.
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Jon wrote:
I'm still waiting for anyone to cite a Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in question the Bible's mand eplicit commands against all homosexual behavor.
Oh! That' right. There are NONE!
There's no Jon here, David. Nor Caleb, Larry, Moe or Curly.
What word was replaced with 'homosexual' in bibles in 1946, and why is homosexual a better translation?

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There's no Jon here, David. Nor Caleb, Larry, Moe or Curly.
What word was replaced with 'homosexual' in bibles in 1946, and why is homosexual a better translation?
Robert
Thank you for confirming that you can cite positively no Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in question the Bible's many condemnations of all homosexual behavior.

Your lies about my identity are irrelevant. I've give you links to original tongues. Apparently you are too ignorant to understand the answer to the 'question' you ask.

You're just Spamming us with refuted nonsense from radical homosexual hate sites.

Dope!

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