Homosexuality and the Bible

Homosexuality and the Bible

There are 33241 comments on the www.smh.com.au story from Aug 15, 2011, titled Homosexuality and the Bible. In it, www.smh.com.au reports that:

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.smh.com.au.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#17150 Mar 16, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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I think this is accurate information. Does the statistic include same-sex relationships?
This link should work;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/
marriage-research_n_2450639.ht ml

It should, however, it seems that gay couples have a hard time maintaining those types of relationships. Whereas heterosexuals reap the benefit whether married or not.
Vic

Pekin, IL

#17151 Mar 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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This link should work;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/
marriage-research_n_2450639.ht ml
It should, however, it seems that gay couples have a hard time maintaining those types of relationships. Whereas heterosexuals reap the benefit whether married or not.
A study of homosexual 'marriages' indicates that few are exclusive arrangements.

Anyone who has ever lived in a dorm should know that two people of the same gender sharing a room just doesn't work!

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#17152 Mar 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2013/01/10/marr...
"The key to longer life might be found in your relationship status.
A new study by Duke University Medical Center found that Baby Boomers with permanent partners or spouses had a decreased risk of premature death during midlife years, Science Daily reports. Individuals who were never married were more than twice as likely to die early than individuals who had been in a long-term, stable relationship."
What better reason than to extend marriage equality to same-sex couples.

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#17153 Mar 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Sodomite was replaced because homosexual was an accurate update of language.
See how easy that was?
Smile.
So what? That doesn't mean it is accurate. That only shows the publishers wish to exploit anti-gay prejudices in order to sell more bibles.
Vic

Pekin, IL

#17154 Mar 16, 2013
Robsan5 wrote:
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Wrong. You're batting 0 for 57, Genius.
You don't know the answer because you weren't born in 1946, "Honey". Do you remember that?
Snicker Snort.(Blow blow blow, NoIQ!)
Robert
Actually, Kilmare was quite right. Perhaps you need to read these passages, to see just how ridiculous your 'question' is. There are MANY ways to express same sex behavior, and when an English word was coined or used to update language is not relevant. Absolutely no Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition places in question the Bible's many commands against all homosexual behavior. Anything to the contrary is inachronous fiction.

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9(NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Jude 1:6-7 (NASB)- And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.

Substituting the word 'homosexual' for Sodomite has a less loaded meaning. You can check scores of translations and even original texts (not to imply that I think you could understand them) at www.biblegateway.com

Your 'question' is just plagiarized from a radical homosexual hate site and has no bearing on reality.

Since: Mar 07

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#17155 Mar 16, 2013
Jon wrote:
I'm still waiting for anyone to cite a Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in question the Bible's mand eplicit commands against all homosexual behavor.
Oh! That' right. There are NONE!
Since no verse actually condemn gay people for being gay, there is really no need to try to prove that there are no such verses.

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#17156 Mar 16, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Since no verse actually condemn gay people for being gay, there is really no need to try to prove that there are no such verses.
Come on, David is still trying to impress us with six Bible passages. Are you impressed?
ex christian

Christchurch, New Zealand

#17158 Mar 16, 2013
What wrote:
Well just like those who reject the Lord's Word and speak of the Gospels only. Perhaps they never read the Gospel of John :
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Jesus Christ is the Author of all Scripture OT and NT so Jesus spoke plenty against the abomination of homosexuality and lesbianism!
Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
And don't forget:
Matt 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Matt 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Notice a man and a woman not mana and man or woman and woman!
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obviously you never checked the difference between the word translated to LORD in the NT compared to THe OT. ignoramus. In the NT it merely means master as in teacher or Rabbi, it does not in anyway imply GOD

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17161 Mar 16, 2013
Vic wrote:
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Anyone who has ever lived in a dorm should know that two people of the same gender sharing a room just doesn't work!
This is your argument?
Robsan5

Modesto, CA

#17162 Mar 16, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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This is your argument?
Sounds like someone's upset that his dorm buddy wasn't gay.

Robert
Robsan5

United States

#17164 Mar 16, 2013
I love anal sex and suck a mean d!ck

Robert

Since: Aug 09

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#17165 Mar 17, 2013
Vic wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, Kilmare was quite right. Perhaps you need to read these passages, to see just how ridiculous your 'question' is. There are MANY ways to express same sex behavior, and when an English word was coined or used to update language is not relevant. Absolutely no Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition places in question the Bible's many commands against all homosexual behavior. Anything to the contrary is inachronous fiction.
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9(NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Jude 1:6-7 (NASB)- And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
Substituting the word 'homosexual' for Sodomite has a less loaded meaning. You can check scores of translations and even original texts (not to imply that I think you could understand them) at www.biblegateway.com
Your 'question' is just plagiarized from a radical homosexual hate site and has no bearing on reality.
Your perception of Reality, perhaps.

But then, that's what this conversation is all about, isn't it? Yes, it is.

The Holy Spirit has the knack for changing one's perception of Reality. The "inachronous fiction" you write about is realized to be the institutionalized hypocrisy and bigotry long-held by the Church; a view based upon a mistaken understanding of homosexuality.

A new Tradition is being established under the mantle of the Holy Spirit. Same sex marriages will be Blessed and these couples will stand approved in the sight of the Lord.

Rev. Ken

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#17166 Mar 17, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Come on, David is still trying to impress us with six Bible passages. Are you impressed?
He can't seem to respond without his list of random cut-and-pastes. And they are getting more and more out of date.

I feel so sorry for him.

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#17167 Mar 17, 2013
Vic wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, Kilmare was quite right. Perhaps you need to read these passages, to see just how ridiculous your 'question' is. There are MANY ways to express same sex behavior, and when an English word was coined or used to update language is not relevant. Absolutely no Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition places in question the Bible's many commands against all homosexual behavior. Anything to the contrary is inachronous fiction.
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
...
David, we have already been through this a thousand times.

You can't quote Leviticus against gay folks unless you can prove that Christians today are required to follow ANY of the Holiness Code for ancient Hebrew priests. You have already admitted that YOU don't.

At least TRY to be rational in your arguments. This constant lying and hypocrisy isn't doing you a bit of good.

Now, can you post like a rational human being and just used the verses that might POSSIBLY apply? At least them we can start to work with your misconceptions, and your inability to read verses in context.

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#17168 Mar 17, 2013
Quest wrote:
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He can't seem to respond without his list of random cut-and-pastes. And they are getting more and more out of date.
I feel so sorry for him.
Yes they are. There is so much stuff in the Bible but his kind reduce the Bible to a Book of Lies to punish others with.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#17169 Mar 17, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Your perception of Reality, perhaps.
But then, that's what this conversation is all about, isn't it? Yes, it is.
The Holy Spirit has the knack for changing one's perception of Reality. The "inachronous fiction" you write about is realized to be the institutionalized hypocrisy and bigotry long-held by the Church; a view based upon a mistaken understanding of homosexuality.
A new Tradition is being established under the mantle of the Holy Spirit. Same sex marriages will be Blessed and these couples will stand approved in the sight of the Lord.
Rev. Ken
I have exposed over and over that the 'reality' you espouse is fabrication and distortion, directly opposed to the Holy Spirit.

You can devise all the 'traditions' you'd like, the truth never changes.

As Jesus said about marriage,

Matthew 19:4-6 (MSG)
He answered, "Haven't you read in your Bible that the Creator originally made man and woman for each other, male and female?
5 And because of this, a man leaves father and mother and is firmly bonded to his wife, becoming one flesh—no longer two bodies but one.
6 Because God created this organic union of the two sexes, no one should desecrate his art by cutting them apart."

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#17170 Mar 17, 2013
Quest wrote:
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David, we have already been through this a thousand times.
You can't quote Leviticus against gay folks unless you can prove that Christians today are required to follow ANY of the Holiness Code for ancient Hebrew priests. You have already admitted that YOU don't.
At least TRY to be rational in your arguments. This constant lying and hypocrisy isn't doing you a bit of good.
Now, can you post like a rational human being and just used the verses that might POSSIBLY apply? At least them we can start to work with your misconceptions, and your inability to read verses in context.
So according to your understanding lying, theft and murder are no longer wrong?

Do you think about the gay twirl you regurgitate???

Snicker.
Robsan5

Modesto, CA

#17171 Mar 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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...You can devise all the 'traditions' you'd like, the truth never changes...
Do you mean the "truth" like these, Genius?

Please prove your assertion that homosexuality is a mistake of genetic epi-markers.
Please prove your assertion that the article Regnerus wrote has received awards.
Please prove your assertion that the sun is a form of radiation.
Please prove your assertion that god evolved into Adam.
Please prove your assertion that Adam was evolved, not created.
Please prove your assertion that god is genderless.
Please prove your assertion that 80% of all seafood poisoning is from shellfish.
Please prove your assertion that eve is created in god's image.
Please prove your assertion that radiation caused Moses' face to shine.
Please prove your assertion that the biblical use of the word 'shine' means 'glow'.
Please prove your assertion that god can reduce radiation exposure by holding out his hand or turning his back.
Please prove your assertion that god is radioactive.
Please prove that homosexual is a better translation for the word that it replaced in bibles in 1946.

Snicker Snort.(Suck blow suck, NoIQ!)

Robert
Robsan5

Modesto, CA

#17172 Mar 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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...
Do you think about the gay twirl you regurgitate???.
Do you think about the bigoted lies you regurgitate, Genius?

Please prove your assertion that homosexuality is a mistake of genetic epi-markers.
Please prove your assertion that the article Regnerus wrote has received awards.
Please prove your assertion that the sun is a form of radiation.
Please prove your assertion that god evolved into Adam.
Please prove your assertion that Adam was evolved, not created.
Please prove your assertion that god is genderless.
Please prove your assertion that 80% of all seafood poisoning is from shellfish.
Please prove your assertion that eve is created in god's image.
Please prove your assertion that radiation caused Moses' face to shine.
Please prove your assertion that the biblical use of the word 'shine' means 'glow'.
Please prove your assertion that god can reduce radiation exposure by holding out his hand or turning his back.
Please prove your assertion that god is radioactive.
Please prove that homosexual is a better translation for the word that it replaced in bibles in 1946.

Snicker Snort.(Suck blow suck, NoIQ!)

Robert

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17173 Mar 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I have exposed over and over that the 'reality' you espouse is fabrication and distortion, directly opposed to the Holy Spirit.
The only thing you exposed, Kuntmary, is your bias. Everything else is a myth.

Smile, smirk, Kuntzinga.

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