Homosexuality and the Bible

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Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

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The Drooling Porky Pig

Santa Cruz, CA

#14897 Dec 21, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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I see the Fa$$ot from Santa Cruz has to make stuff up to try and hide the fact that he likes to give and take a d:ck up the A$$ from another man. Fking Queer, get a life. LMFAO
Ha Ha Ha...that's all you think about kid.

In the closet much?

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#14899 Dec 21, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Fk you CSer, go su;ck Yeshas d:ck
It's reported of course.

Psalm 35,1-13:

Psalm 35

Of David.

1 Contend, Lord, with those who contend with me;
fight against those who fight against me.
2 Take up shield and armor;
arise and come to my aid.
3 Brandish spear and javelin[a]
against those who pursue me.
Say to me,
“I am your salvation.”


4 May those who seek my life
be disgraced and put to shame;
may those who plot my ruin
be turned back in dismay.
5 May they be like chaff before the wind,
with the angel of the Lord driving them away;
6 may their path be dark and slippery,
with the angel of the Lord pursuing them.


7 Since they hid their net for me without cause
and without cause dug a pit for me,
8 may ruin overtake them by surprise—
may the net they hid entangle them,
may they fall into the pit, to their ruin.
9 Then my soul will rejoice in the Lord
and delight in his salvation.
10 My whole being will exclaim,
“Who is like you, Lord?
You rescue the poor from those too strong for them,
the poor and needy from those who rob them.”


11 Ruthless witnesses come forward;
they question me on things I know nothing about.
12 They repay me evil for good
and leave me like one bereaved.
13 Yet when they were ill, I put on sackcloth
and humbled myself with fasting.
When my prayers returned to me unanswered,

Lord Yeshua, I cling to You; Help me, help me, help me. Amen

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#14900 Dec 21, 2012
The Drooling Porky Pig wrote:
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Oh really?
Tell us more.
Thanks

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#14901 Dec 21, 2012
Manmanman wrote:
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Interesting
There is nothing interesting at all about the post by James Aist. It is pure, unadulterated hypocritical, bigoted Malarky.

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#14903 Dec 21, 2012
RevKen wrote:
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There is nothing interesting at all about the post by James Aist. It is pure, unadulterated hypocritical, bigoted Malarky.
Woaw, RevKen is back.

Not for RevKen:

Again he is making a fool out of himself, breaking my boundaries, trying to contact me. I think he knows he is not welcome.
Fitz

Roseville, MI

#14904 Dec 21, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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The stories of Ruth and Naomi, David and Jonathan, Daniel and Ashpenaz, all support love between people of the same sex.
What the bible condemns are acts of abuse and misuse of others, not love between equal partners.
Certainly these Biblical partnerships were between people who loved one another...but no one seriously considers them to be homosexual relationships.. so I dont really see your point.

I love my Father & my Mother as well as my Sister and Brother.I also love my friends. Half these relationships could be classified as love between members of the same-sex.

Yes the Bible condems abuse and misuse of others. It also however is clear about what marriage is, that sexual acts outside marriage are forbidden, as well as being very strict by contemprary standards on matters of sexual fidelity, chasitity and the like.
Terry

UK

#14905 Dec 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
Here we are over 15,000 posts later, and the bottom line is the same. The Bible irrefutably condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments. No one has been able to cite even one Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition to the contrary. We even know from other early Christian writings, like the Didache, that homosexual behavior has been prohibited since the beginning.
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Wow you know your Bible scriptures, lol

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#14906 Dec 21, 2012
Terry wrote:
<quoted text>Wow you know your Bible scriptures, lol
All six of them. lol

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#14907 Dec 21, 2012
RevKen wrote:
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There is nothing interesting at all about the post by James Aist. It is pure, unadulterated hypocritical, bigoted Malarky.
Here is what I think. That book should come with a warning label like a pack of cigarettes.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/nny616/...

Caution, religion can be addictive.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14910 Dec 22, 2012
LuLu Ford wrote:
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Here is what I think. That book should come with a warning label like a pack of cigarettes.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/nny616/...
Caution, religion can be addictive.
Censor a fictional, mistranslated book?

Seriously? What would you be afraid of? So blonde...

By the way, how did a accurate account of radiation eminating from an extra-terrestrial being giving a Law (way of living) that has distinguished the most unique and significant culture in all of human history get into a fake, fictional, foolish 'book'.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Smirk.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14911 Dec 22, 2012
Scientific discovery that homosexuality is a genetic mistake;

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/
articles/253971.php

Epigenetics is a Key Player in Sexual Preference
Epi-marks act as another layer of information fused to our genes that control their expression. Essentially, genes hold the directions, while epi-marks instruct how they are put into motion and completed.

Historically, epi-marks are eliminated and created anew with each generation, but new research shows that they can occasionally pass over between generations, causing similarities within families and appearing as shared genes.

Sex-specific epi-marks are made during early fetal development and serve as security against the considerable natural variation in testosterone that happens in late fetal development. For example, sex-specific epi-marks prevent female fetuses from becoming masculine when there are unusually high testosterone levels present, and vice versa for male fetuses.

Different kinds of epi-marks safeguard different sex-specific characteristics; some protect the genitals, others protect sexual identity, and this study suggests others keep safe sexual partner preference.

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#14912 Dec 22, 2012
RevKen wrote:
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LOL!!!....
You know? What is it with you, manmanman, you lying little jerk-twerp?
I didn't "break your boundaries!" I didn't "try to contact you." I could not give a rat's ass less about whether or not I am welcome in your little world.
This is an open forum thread, created for the purpose of providing a place for people to leave their comments, supposedly regarding the thread topic. No one has the right or the power to leave any message here that is "not for" anyone else. In fact, anyone who leaves anything here is leaving it on purpose, expressly to have anyone and everyone read it. So, when you say you have a message that is "not for" someone, you are posting an outright lie.
As anyone is allowed to do, I simply responded with my own opinion of YOUR post which in itself was an uninteresting response to a paragraph of Baloney posted by James Aist. You replied to Aist with a single word, "Interesting." I didn't think there was anything interesting at all in it and said so. If anyone broke boundaries, it was James Aist with his groundless, hypocritical and bigoted, homophobic diatribe against people he does not know.
But you then seconded when you responded to his blather with the equally senseless comment. So, who actually broke the boundaries? Me by responding to your post or James Aist's post?? Or YOU, in the first place by replying to Aist with a senseless comment obviously intending to solicit the response - and that IS exactly what you did and why you did it.
You initiated. You broke the boundaries. Now you complain, feigning hurt and claiming indignation, saying that the response, any response, that you have clearly sought, is unwanted. You are full of it, buddy, and everbody who reads this knows it, you included.
Now, since you have seen fit to land on the fresh, stinking, psychic cowpie that you have created for yourself with a precipitation of feckless tomfoolery-filled, wet brain farts, how about lapping your own stink back up and buzzing off ...
like a good little blue-bottle fly should.
Of course, you could take-off and land in the nearest phone booth, change your fly outfit and return as your alter ego, the self-satisfied "El Segundo." At least in that form, you are like the rest of us, also tiring of the MMM-blue-bottle-fly persona.
Or, you could get a life and get into the Christmas Spirit! Or you could even post an attempt at an intelligent comment or personal opinion about the thread topic; that is, if you are capable of so doing.
Merry Christmas, Mr. MMM Blue Bottle Fly!
Rev. Ken
Not for RevKen:
It's reported of course.
RevKen seems to struggle quite hard. If he wants contact with me, has to bow down and say sorry for his terrible behaviour, but it seems he doesn't want that, and then we are not in contact.
So he doesn't reach me. He just writes a long post that goes into the air. He is wasting his time and energy?
If he wants to keep on like that the rest of his life, it's okay for me. I don't know what he achieves with that, wasting his time, life and energy? There is nothing I can do to make him change. He is souvereign in his own life, and if he wants that, it's okay of course. There is nothing I can do to change him, but as far as I can see he doesn't seem to be very smart. He is stupid?
And that's okay. I also think that what a person is full of, that will get out of him/ her, and what comes out out RevKen seems to be shit, and that's okay. I of course just burn it and observe him.
He might be a very angry man full of shit, and he has a possibility to be happy if he wants, but he doesn't want?
And that's okay. It's his choice. I don't know why he chooses like that, but it's okay for me.
He is making his own hell? If he wants to stay there for the rest of his life, ok...
So RevKen seems to have a lot of problems.

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#14913 Dec 22, 2012
Continued:

Lord I pray to You, protect me:

Psalm 91,1-6:
"1 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.[a]
2 I will say of the Lord,“He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust.”
3 Surely he will save you
from the fowler’s snare
and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday."

and Psalm 35,1-6:
"1 Contend, Lord, with those who contend with me;
fight against those who fight against me.
2 Take up shield and armor;
arise and come to my aid.
3 Brandish spear and javelin[a]
against those who pursue me.
Say to me,
“I am your salvation.”
4 May those who seek my life
be disgraced and put to shame;
may those who plot my ruin
be turned back in dismay.
5 May they be like chaff before the wind,
with the angel of the Lord driving them away;
6 may their path be dark and slippery,
with the angel of the Lord pursuing them."

Lord Yeshua, if I do mistakes, please correct me:

Psalm 139, 19-24:
"19 If only you, God, would slay the wicked!
Away from me, you who are bloodthirsty!
20 They speak of you with evil intent;
your adversaries misuse your name.
21 Do I not hate those who hate you, Lord,
and abhor those who are in rebellion against you?
22 I have nothing but hatred for them;
I count them my enemies.
23 Search me, God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting."

Lord Yeshua, I lay my whole life in Your hands, let Your will completely happen to me, Yeshua, 100 % and the same with Revken and all other in here. Amen

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#14914 Dec 22, 2012
RevKen: As far as I can see, he seems to be full of so many problems; Arrogance, from above-attitude, name-calling on purpose, laughing at, hurting, insulting, ridiculing. The list might be infinite.

I am not saying I am perfect. I guess I have all the same failures.

So Lord, I pray for RevKen; I put him in Your hands. Let Your Will happen to him completely. Amen

And I pray for myself. Cleanse me and make me better. Amen

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#14915 Dec 22, 2012
Caleb also needs a prayer. He seems to have a lot of problems with aggression, not respecting people and so on: Lord Yeshua, he seems to be a sick person. I lay him in Your hands, and let Your Will happen to Him. Amen

And of course, the same with myself. Amen

Since: Apr 12

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#14916 Dec 22, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Go su;ck your daddys d:ck Manmanman, you CSing Fa$$ot.
Reported

Psalm 91,1-6:

"Psalm 91

1 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.[a]
2 I will say of the Lord,“He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust.”

3 Surely he will save you
from the fowler’s snare
and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday."

I lay myself completely in Your hands Lord Yeshua.

Psalm 35, 1-6:

1 Contend, Lord, with those who contend with me;
fight against those who fight against me.
2 Take up shield and armor;
arise and come to my aid.
3 Brandish spear and javelin[a]
against those who pursue me.
Say to me,
“I am your salvation.”

4 May those who seek my life
be disgraced and put to shame;
may those who plot my ruin
be turned back in dismay.
5 May they be like chaff before the wind,
with the angel of the Lord driving them away;
6 may their path be dark and slippery,
with the angel of the Lord pursuing them.

Oh Lord, I put myself completely in Your Hands. Amen

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#14917 Dec 22, 2012
RevKen seems to struggle very hard with disrespect, hurting, insulting, a lot of things.

I guess I have all the same things and maybe all people.

I lay RevKen in Your hands Lord, and I want Your Will to happen to him in the allmighty Name of Yeshua.

And the same with me and all other people in here and all those who are not here.

2. Chorintians 10, 3-6:

3 For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. 6 And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.

Amen

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#14922 Dec 22, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Censor a fictional, mistranslated book?
Seriously? What would you be afraid of? So blonde...
By the way, how did a accurate account of radiation eminating from an extra-terrestrial being giving a Law (way of living) that has distinguished the most unique and significant culture in all of human history get into a fake, fictional, foolish 'book'.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Smirk.
Want to know what? What a group of Bronze Age desert rats believed?
BOOK OF LIES

Santa Cruz, CA

#14923 Dec 22, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Not one of you homofascist clones has been able to cite ANY Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in question the Bible's many condemnations of all homosexual behavior.
They were not mistranslated.
In your worthless opinion David. GTFOH

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#14924 Dec 22, 2012
SexyLexii13 wrote:
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Ohhhh myy yourrrr godddd leave me the fck alone you troller everyone reading mannana or whatever is a pedophile that lives in hus moms basment that likes to rape little boys
And is now harrasing me :(-_- somebody do sometging and im not confused your the one raping little kids u sick fck
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