'Buddhism has to evolve to remain socially relevant in Asia'

Nov 20, 2008 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: India eNews

Buddhism will have to evolve rites and rituals to become more socially relevant in Asian nations, including India, where people identify religion with prayer rites, feels Buddhist scholar Lokesh Chandra.

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kathuria

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Nov 29, 2008
 
Both the author and Chandra seem confounded. From the Buddhist perspective, to place emphasis on ritual and dogma is distracting from Dharma (the path to enlightenment). I don't see how they consider this "evolving", when to the rest of the world it is already out-moded.
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Nov 29, 2008
 
That's utter blasphemy.

The only rite and ritual of a Buddhist is to utter the triple Gem, take precepts and meditate under a tree or on the floor on the qualities of the Lord, the Dhamma and Sangha and sila.

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Dec 1, 2008
 
well, cultures that have accepted Buddhism created 'Buddhist funerals','Buddhist weddings' & 'Buddhist blessing ceremonies'.

and of course, the most striking examples are the Mahayana & Vajrayana traditions that have absorbed local divinities and made them into Dharma Protectors.

Buddhism have evolved, up to an extent whereby micca ditthi believes seeped in.Such as believing that our great guru is god...or continuation of Vishnu avatara..

Dhamma cannot be compromised this way
tintin

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Dec 3, 2008
 
sampuna wrote:
Buddhism have evolved, up to an extent whereby micca ditthi believes seeped in.Such as believing that our great guru is god...or continuation of Vishnu avatara..
Dhamma cannot be compromised this way
is that a little jibe in hello's direction?... wink wink
hello

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Dec 4, 2008
 
sampuna wrote:
well, cultures that have accepted Buddhism created 'Buddhist funerals','Buddhist weddings' & 'Buddhist blessing ceremonies'.
and of course, the most striking examples are the Mahayana & Vajrayana traditions that have absorbed local divinities and made them into Dharma Protectors.
Buddhism have evolved, up to an extent whereby micca ditthi believes seeped in.Such as believing that our great guru is god...or continuation of Vishnu avatara..
Dhamma cannot be compromised this way
Yes and we all know how much you know about Buddhism.

Sakka ditti?

Right view is Buddha is Bhagwan, God.

Accept it, or go to another religion.

“bungai terong”

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Dec 4, 2008
 
hello wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes and we all know how much you know about Buddhism.
Sakka ditti?
Right view is Buddha is Bhagwan, God.
Accept it, or go to another religion.
i'm not going to slice you off frm here

let me just lead you to Kaccayanagotta Sutta

read from there,what is the REAL DEFINATION of Samma Ditthi

it still boils down to overcoming of tanha (attachment) and control of the indriya (sense doors)

tq
Dondu

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Dec 5, 2008
 
The Buddhist's mission is not to convert the nonconvertible. Those who are attached to rites and rituals should know that a Sotapanna's entry into the Supra Mundane consciousness is the abandonment of attachment to rites and ritual and it is only the beginning. Obviously, attachment to rites and rituals hinders spiritual growth.

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Dec 8, 2008
 
Dondu wrote:
The Buddhist's mission is not to convert the nonconvertible. Those who are attached to rites and rituals should know that a Sotapanna's entry into the Supra Mundane consciousness is the abandonment of attachment to rites and ritual and it is only the beginning. Obviously, attachment to rites and rituals hinders spiritual growth.
true :)
Hello

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Dec 21, 2008
 
Dondu wrote:
The Buddhist's mission is not to convert the nonconvertible. Those who are attached to rites and rituals should know that a Sotapanna's entry into the Supra Mundane consciousness is the abandonment of attachment to rites and ritual and it is only the beginning. Obviously, attachment to rites and rituals hinders spiritual growth.
Dhamma is medicine, than the Buddhist mission is that all who are ill should receive this medicine.

Now ALL are ill in this world, remember Buddha upon enlightenment almost didn't go out to teach thinking this world so full of lust, hate and greed would not be able to comprehend.

How to administer this medicine, now that is the trick.

That is where upaya kaushalya (skillful means)comes in.

Make no mistake, Buddhists have medicine...they have a duty to share where ever they can.
Jon

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Mar 13, 2009
 
There are rites and rituals in many Buddhist traditions. For example, the recitation of verses called paritta (in Pali) are believed to create auspiciousness and good fortune. Presenting offerings to a Buddha image, Bo tree, or Stupa (reliquary mound) is also common. Pilgrimages to BodhGaya are another example. Just because some of you may privilege meditation and your own manner of practice does not mean that the vast history of Buddhism across the globe has not produced its share of rituals and ceremony.
Istanbul 1453

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Mar 20, 2009
 
Wir haben eine derart kostbare Gelegenheit wie dieses Leben als freier und Glück begünstigter Mensch gefunden:Wenn wir uns jetz als unfähig erweisen,etwas Nützliches damit anzufangen,wird es uns schwerfallen,künftig solch ein menschliches Leben zu erlangen.Dalai Lama
Hello

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Mar 28, 2009
 
Jon wrote:
There are rites and rituals in many Buddhist traditions. For example, the recitation of verses called paritta (in Pali) are believed to create auspiciousness and good fortune. Presenting offerings to a Buddha image, Bo tree, or Stupa (reliquary mound) is also common. Pilgrimages to BodhGaya are another example. Just because some of you may privilege meditation and your own manner of practice does not mean that the vast history of Buddhism across the globe has not produced its share of rituals and ceremony.
I agree, Buddhists do have rituals -- as long as those rituals don't take away from meditation and studying actual scriptures, rituals are good show.

However, when the rituals overtake Buddhism's central tenet of meditation, morality, wisdom- especially the lay people who think Buddhism is about lighting incense to Buddha, than it becomes destructive.
Min

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Feb 3, 2013
 
I don't follow pseudo-Buddhism

quote:
"1. If a man, after the disappearance of the 3 mental chains personality-belief, skeptical doubt, attachment to rules and ritual; see: samyojana has entered the stream to Nibb&#257;na, he is no more subject to rebirth in lower worlds, is firmly established, destined to full enlightenment..."

http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php...
DDR

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Feb 3, 2013
 
Ritual is a cultural practice , that's why it is different from country to country. When people from a certain culture come to Buddhism , a certain aspect of the culture is mixed in with Buddhism.

Read the text and you don't see the Buddha instruct on any ritual as part of the path to enlightenment. Ritual a cultural practice common in the region. As a matter of fact, the Buddha discourages the practice of rituals. He even said that a Stream Enterer loose any attachment to rituals.

Buddhism does not need to evolve, rather it needs to remove external practices that dilute the pure teaching.

When it comes to funeral , it is a farewell ceremony . The Buddha performed funeral ceremony for his chief disciples . So that is not an external dilution .

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