The illusion of contradiction

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"Gay rights are threatening religious liberty." This statement, while a touch extreme, is, no less, a common sentiment among political conservatives in the United States.

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Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#1 Aug 9, 2013
Religious groups do not have the right to expect their particular rules to be imposed on secular society including nonbelievers.

In other words, their right to freely swing their fists around ends where it might come in contact with someone else's body.
Gerald

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#3 Aug 9, 2013
"Gay rights" are threatening the very foundation of society and civilization.

When people's decency, morality, family values and all sense of right and wrong have been thrown out the window what's left?

Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#4 Aug 9, 2013
It's also always bothered me when homophobes claim religious liberty is threatened when their very stance denies gay-positive religious groups their right to perform legal same-sex marriages.

Religious liberty means that each religious group can choose to celebrate or abstain from whatever activity (including legal same-sex marriages) that they choose.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#6 Aug 9, 2013
Gerald wrote:
"Gay rights" are threatening the very foundation of society and civilization.
When people's decency, morality, family values and all sense of right and wrong have been thrown out the window what's left?
That's the exact same thing I think when I read someone on here who is too cowardly to use one name or register on Topix.

Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#7 Aug 9, 2013
Gerald wrote:
"Gay rights" are threatening the very foundation of society and civilization.
When people's decency, morality, family values and all sense of right and wrong have been thrown out the window what's left?
Homophobes have been claiming that society would collapse if gay rights were enshrined in law yet those claims, again and again, prove to be utter crap.

There are more and more places in the world that have equal legal rights for LGBT people, including full recognition of same-sex marriages. In Canada, for instance, same-sex marriage has been legal across the whole country since 2003. And Canadian society is doing just fine, thank you very much.

Back when slavery was abolished in the USA those who opposed equal rights for non-whites claimed that society would crumble. That was over a hundred years ago and the USA is still surviving and has actually thrived since those horrible days of slave-owning.

Today's homophobes are no different from the pro-slavery types back in Lincoln's day. It's probably fair to say that today's homophobes are worse -- they should definitely know better!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#8 Aug 9, 2013
Gerald wrote:
"Gay rights" are threatening the very foundation of society and civilization.
When people's decency, morality, family values and all sense of right and wrong have been thrown out the window what's left?
If you threw your decency; morality; family values and sense of right and wrong out the window because of gay people; you are a homophobic nincompoop
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We the People of the Gay Master Race do not affect your decency; morality; family values; and sense of right and wrong; and you need to leave ours alone in return; hon
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#9 Aug 9, 2013
The AssTroll Stopper wrote:
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Hey Queer, you make more sense if you keep your mouth shut except while su:cking d!ck!!
hi TATS ;o))
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My mouth is shut while typing; so lets put this another way:
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Your freedom of religion ends where my Civil Rights begin

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#10 Aug 9, 2013
The AssTroll Stopper wrote:
Hey Queer, you make more sense if you keep your mouth shut except while su:cking d!ck!!
HAHAHA, you talk like a thug who thinks he can give orders over the internet. Is that all you've got? What are you, 8? Why didn't you call him a poopy-head while you were at it?

Ah, the dumbing-down of America. Making a cogent, rational reply is no longer necessary. Just sling insults, and pretend that you're relevent. Sorry that 17th-century historical quotes about freedom go over your head. Maybe they'll cover that for you when you get to middle school.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#11 Aug 9, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
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HAHAHA, you talk like a thug who thinks he can give orders over the internet. Is that all you've got? What are you, 8? Why didn't you call him a poopy-head while you were at it?
Ah, the dumbing-down of America. Making a cogent, rational reply is no longer necessary. Just sling insults, and pretend that you're relevent. Sorry that 17th-century historical quotes about freedom go over your head. Maybe they'll cover that for you when you get to middle school.
TATS will never make it to middle school
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Since: Mar 07

Hanover, VA

#12 Aug 9, 2013
Gay And Proud wrote:
It's also always bothered me when homophobes claim religious liberty is threatened when their very stance denies gay-positive religious groups their right to perform legal same-sex marriages.
Religious liberty means that each religious group can choose to celebrate or abstain from whatever activity (including legal same-sex marriages) that they choose.
I've never understood that one. I suppose that "religious liberty" only applies when it is YOUR denomination that gets to decide it's definition.

Since: Mar 07

Hanover, VA

#13 Aug 9, 2013
Gerald wrote:
"Gay rights" are threatening the very foundation of society and civilization.
When people's decency, morality, family values and all sense of right and wrong have been thrown out the window what's left?
Ummmmmm, strong families, protected children, educated gay youth, productive citizens, and a population that respects and cares for and about one another?

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#14 Aug 11, 2013
Gerald wrote:
"Gay rights" are threatening the very foundation of society and civilization.
When people's decency, morality, family values and all sense of right and wrong have been thrown out the window what's left?
You forgot something - all these couples living together without being married.

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