As Gay Marriage Heads To Court, A Look Back At The Bumpy Ride: NPR

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Gays and lesbians have adopted the phrase "it gets better" as a kind of slogan to assure young people that life won't always be so tough.

Looking back, life has gotten dramatically better for LGBT people in the United States in a very short period of time. The modern gay rights movement began less than 50 years ago. Today, supporters of same-sex marriage outnumber opponents.

Now, the Supreme Court is about to hear two big cases that could shift the landscape for gay rights again.

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Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#42 Apr 13, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>of course they are not the same, but they are equal in the eyes o f the law.
They are individually equal, not as couples. Marriage is regulated by the states and we both know that your statement is false.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#43 Apr 13, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the trend is only going one way... you will be on the wrong side of history.
History isn't always flattering. I'm on the right side, with or without history.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#44 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Two men or two women. Hope that helps, but I believe you are beyond helping.
You rode the short bus, didn't you?

Wondering, is there a state interest serve by limiting marriage to being between a man and a woman that would render your argument valid and prove that you are not a dullard?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#45 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
History isn't always flattering. I'm on the right side, with or without history.
no, you are on the wrong side of one of the central premises of our nation. all men are created equal. you are on the wrong side of morality. and you will be on the wrong side of history.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#46 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why not be happy calling it a civil union instead of marriage?
Ironically, that's what Civil Marriages WERE called. It was an alternate term in this Country that simply denoted a non-sectarian wedding performed by a Judge or Justice of the Peace.

It's not what it is anymore.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#47 Apr 13, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, you are on the wrong side of one of the central premises of our nation. all men are created equal. you are on the wrong side of morality. and you will be on the wrong side of history.
What could be more sexually immoral than two men and a jar of petroleum jelly? None of my business what they do in their bedrooms but that's my opinion.

I agree that all men are created equal, one man and one woman responsible for each of us. Not two men, not two women. After we are created, the equality ends. Some of us are privileged, some of us aren't.

If being anti-gay marriage is the wrong side, color me on the wrong side. Of course my view is the polar opposite of yours.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#48 Apr 13, 2013
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
You rode the short bus, didn't you?
Wondering, is there a state interest serve by limiting marriage to being between a man and a woman that would render your argument valid and prove that you are not a dullard?
Go color.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#49 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Go color.
Gee, Wondering, you seem to be throwing in the towel and admitting you have no rational argument a bit earlier than usual.

Grow up.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#50 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
What could be more sexually immoral than two men and a jar of petroleum jelly? None of my business what they do in their bedrooms but that's my opinion.
I agree that all men are created equal, one man and one woman responsible for each of us. Not two men, not two women. After we are created, the equality ends. Some of us are privileged, some of us aren't.
If being anti-gay marriage is the wrong side, color me on the wrong side. Of course my view is the polar opposite of yours.
yes, your side is the immoral side. glad you agree.

you say it is none of your business yet you make it your business.

a little two-faced, huh?

you really have nothing to stand on except your bigotry. your kids will call you by your rightful name and apologize for you actions...
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#51 Apr 13, 2013
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, Wondering, you seem to be throwing in the towel and admitting you have no rational argument a bit earlier than usual.
Grow up.
I'm not surprised that you would think that. I use the term 'think' very loosely here. Here's a lesson for you, not that it will do you any good. A rational argument is viewed as rational by rational people. I dismissed you as irrational and really really stupid a long time ago. That's why I call you Justice Dumbass.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#52 Apr 13, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, your side is the immoral side. glad you agree.
you say it is none of your business yet you make it your business.
a little two-faced, huh?
you really have nothing to stand on except your bigotry. your kids will call you by your rightful name and apologize for you actions...
What an empty response.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#53 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
What an empty response.
just the truth...

you have no rational argument against SSM. it is just your bigotry and prejudice.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#54 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not surprised that you would think that. I use the term 'think' very loosely here. Here's a lesson for you, not that it will do you any good. A rational argument is viewed as rational by rational people. I dismissed you as irrational and really really stupid a long time ago. That's why I call you Justice Dumbass.
Do you know the difference between us, Wondering? I've offered an argument, you have not.

Does every state in the union allow marriage, yes or no?
" All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." US Constitution, 14th Amendment, Section 1

Before such a right may be abridged, doing so must serve a compelling state interest.
"For a court to apply strict scrutiny, the legislature must either have significantly abridged a fundamental right with the law's enactment or have passed a law that involves a suspect classification. Suspect classifications have come to include race, national origin, religion, alienage, and poverty."
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/strict_scrutin ...

Marriage has long been held to be a fundamental right by the US Supreme Court.
http://www.afer.org/blog/14-supreme-court-cas ...

Fundamental rights may not be put to a vote.
"One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections."
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials ...

All of this has been explained to you time and time again, it is hardly my fault if you lack the mental capacity to understand it.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#55 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
What could be more sexually immoral than two men and a jar of petroleum jelly? None of my business what they do in their bedrooms but that's my opinion.
I agree that all men are created equal, one man and one woman responsible for each of us. Not two men, not two women. After we are created, the equality ends. Some of us are privileged, some of us aren't.
If being anti-gay marriage is the wrong side, color me on the wrong side. Of course my view is the polar opposite of yours.
If a male and female whup out the petroleum jelly it is fine and moral.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#56 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
What could be more sexually immoral than two men and a jar of petroleum jelly? None of my business what they do in their bedrooms but that's my opinion.
I agree that all men are created equal, one man and one woman responsible for each of us. Not two men, not two women. After we are created, the equality ends. Some of us are privileged, some of us aren't.
If being anti-gay marriage is the wrong side, color me on the wrong side. Of course my view is the polar opposite of yours.
Petroleum jelly is, indeed, immoral.

ASTROGLIDE !!!
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#57 Apr 13, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Petroleum jelly is, indeed, immoral.
ASTROGLIDE !!!
As long as you pressure wash afterward.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#58 Apr 13, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>If a male and female whup out the petroleum jelly it is fine and moral.
Not to me but it's a lot closer to normal.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#59 Apr 13, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>just the truth...
Your truth, maybe. Funny how truth has so many versions.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#60 Apr 13, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Your truth, maybe. Funny how truth has so many versions.
no, not really. you have not shown any truth at all. just your prejudice based bigotry. every attempt of yours ot show a reason to exclude SSM has fallen flat.

no truth to your arguments at all.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#61 Apr 13, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, not really. you have not shown any truth at all. just your prejudice based bigotry. every attempt of yours ot show a reason to exclude SSM has fallen flat.
no truth to your arguments at all.
Kool!

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