Comment: Let's allow Christians to ha...

Comment: Let's allow Christians to have their views

There are 1098 comments on the Belfast Today story from May 23, 2014, titled Comment: Let's allow Christians to have their views. In it, Belfast Today reports that:

Two clergymen sent the secularist 'Taliban' who dominate the media into fits of apoplexy this week.

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Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#374 Jun 29, 2014
Warner wrote:
<quoted text> Well here are your choices; earthy lusts and depravity on Earth or no earthy lusts or depravity on Earth but in Paradise. Or no Earthy desires or lusts on Earth or in Heaven. Opt for 1. 2. 3. And we can work out your future and your faith.
Go for 1 and you will be an unrepentant sinner with no afterlife worth having. Opt for 2 and you will be drawn to Islam and no afterlife worth having in spite of the promise. Opt for 3 and you should immediately become a Christian because you are drawn to it and you will have in truth an afterlife of bliss worshipping God. What do you choose?
It wouldn't be paradise without lust and depravity.
Chester the Molester

New York, NY

#375 Jun 29, 2014
Warner wrote:
<quoted text> Well here are your choices; earthy lusts and depravity on Earth or no earthy lusts or depravity on Earth but in Paradise. Or no Earthy desires or lusts on Earth or in Heaven. Opt for 1. 2. 3. And we can work out your future and your faith.
Go for 1 and you will be an unrepentant sinner with no afterlife worth having. Opt for 2 and you will be drawn to Islam and no afterlife worth having in spite of the promise. Opt for 3 and you should immediately become a Christian because you are drawn to it and you will have in truth an afterlife of bliss worshipping God. What do you choose?

duh It wouldn't be paradise without lust and depravity.

Answer the question you stupid racist fat stanky nappy dugout skank.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#376 Jun 29, 2014
Quadratus wrote:
<quoted text>
You would now
But why would we, and many other Christians prefer the latter?
Are we no less sensual than you?
I'm married and my wife and I have 12Er kids - and while we love kids that wasnt why we had them.
When I was younger I met God through the new birth Jesus talked about. I was changed inside. My desires were changed in me literally overnight.
You challenge us to prove God exists.
Difficult to do to someone who doesn't want to know Him.
But I sure had it proved to me when I was born again.

God will prove to me he exists after death, right?
Well, why won't he do so now?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#377 Jun 29, 2014
Chester the Molester wrote:
Warner wrote:
<quoted text> Well here are your choices; earthy lusts and depravity on Earth or no earthy lusts or depravity on Earth but in Paradise. Or no Earthy desires or lusts on Earth or in Heaven. Opt for 1. 2. 3. And we can work out your future and your faith.
Go for 1 and you will be an unrepentant sinner with no afterlife worth having. Opt for 2 and you will be drawn to Islam and no afterlife worth having in spite of the promise. Opt for 3 and you should immediately become a Christian because you are drawn to it and you will have in truth an afterlife of bliss worshipping God. What do you choose?
duh It wouldn't be paradise without lust and depravity.
Answer the question you stupid racist fat stanky nappy dugout skank.
For those who don't know "Chester the Molester" is fixated on me. He changes names and proxy servers sometimes several times an hour and follows me from forum to forum.
Like a 12 year old boy with a crush, he pulls on my proverbial braids.
Just watch and see.
Sisco

New York, NY

#378 Jun 29, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
God will prove to me he exists after death, right?
Well, why won't he do so now?
You have a comprehension problem? Billions of people believe in god verses .5% do not.
I will hang out with the majority You have a nice trip to hell. You do believe in evil right?

enjoy
Captain Spalding

New York, NY

#379 Jun 29, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
God will prove to me he exists after death, right?
Well, why won't he do so now?
So you believe your ancestors are apes? Family reunion at the zoo. Go figure huh?
Quadratus

Seattle, WA

#380 Jun 29, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
God will prove to me he exists after death, right?
Well, why won't he do so now?
What would you accept as evidence that:
a. God exists
b. The God of the Bible is He.
warner

Bathgate, UK

#381 Jun 30, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
It wouldn't be paradise without lust and depravity.
So you must become a Muslim as you cannot just go into Heaven through athiesm. However, Islam will take you to Hell not Heaven so no one gets the promise of lust and depravity. You can be depraved here on Earth though, that's true.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#382 Jun 30, 2014
Sisco wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a comprehension problem? Billions of people believe in god verses .5% do not.
I will hang out with the majority You have a nice trip to hell. You do believe in evil right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =gEPmA3USJdIXX enjoy
What shape was the earth when 0.5% didn't believe it is a sphere?
Hang out with the majority. Truth isn't voted on.
Got any evidence hell exists?
Didn't think so.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#383 Jun 30, 2014
Captain Spalding wrote:
<quoted text>
So you believe your ancestors are apes? Family reunion at the zoo. Go figure huh?
Humans are apes, stupid. Take a science class.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#384 Jun 30, 2014
Quadratus wrote:
<quoted text>
What would you accept as evidence that:
a. God exists
b. The God of the Bible is He.
I can dismiss the bible before we get to Genesis 1:15.
Quadratus

Federal Way, WA

#385 Jun 30, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
What shape was the earth when 0.5% didn't believe it is a sphere?
Hang out with the majority. Truth isn't
voted on.
Got any evidence hell exists?
Didn't think so.
Ive got evidence the God of the Bible judges sin.
Ive got evidence the promises and warnings of the Bible come true.
Once that is established - the warning of a literal hell is not far fetched at all.
Quadratus

Federal Way, WA

#386 Jun 30, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
I can dismiss the bible before we get to Genesis 1:15.
I'm sorry you are so quick on the draw with that. I can't dismiss that.
Neither can an awful lot of scientists either.
Yes they are a minority.
But they are qualified scientists.
And as you so aptly pointed out - the majority is not always right.
Quadratus

Federal Way, WA

#387 Jun 30, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans are apes, stupid. Take a science class.
That's a philosophical position, not a scientific one.
The evidence for molecules to man evolution is so overwhelming, that an awful lot of scientists have abandoned it. Interestingly no scientist has abandoned the round earth theory.
Apparently the evidence for evolution is not as clear cut as the evidence for a round earth.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#388 Jun 30, 2014
Quadratus wrote:
<quoted text>
Ive got evidence the God of the Bible judges sin.
Ive got evidence the promises and warnings of the Bible come true.
Once that is established - the warning of a literal hell is not far fetched at all.
Let's see some of that evidence. Real, hard evidence.
No, buy-bull quotes don't count.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#389 Jun 30, 2014
Quadratus wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry you are so quick on the draw with that. I can't dismiss that.
Neither can an awful lot of scientists either.
Yes they are a minority.
But they are qualified scientists.
And as you so aptly pointed out - the majority is not always right.
Name the scientist who believes there were day and night and plants on the earth before there was a sun.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#390 Jun 30, 2014
Quadratus wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a philosophical position, not a scientific one.
The evidence for molecules to man evolution is so overwhelming, that an awful lot of scientists have abandoned it. Interestingly no scientist has abandoned the round earth theory.
Apparently the evidence for evolution is not as clear cut as the evidence for a round earth.
Name those scientists.

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#391 Jul 1, 2014
Sisco wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a comprehension problem? Billions of people believe in god verses .5% do not.
I will hang out with the majority You have a nice trip to hell. You do believe in evil right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =gEPmA3USJdIXX enjoy
Argumentem ad populem.

Epic fail.

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#392 Jul 1, 2014
Quadratus wrote:
<quoted text>
Ive got evidence the God of the Bible judges sin.
Ive got evidence the promises and warnings of the Bible come true.
Once that is established - the warning of a literal hell is not far fetched at all.
Great! Trot it right out!
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#393 Jul 1, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Name those scientists.
LivingEdit
This section concerns significant Christian thinkers in science who are alive today. Those who lead organizations of Christians in science or who write works concerning how Christians of today respond to science.
Biomedical Sciences
Werner Arber (born 1929): Werner Arber is a Swiss microbiologist and geneticist. Along with American researchers Hamilton Smith and Daniel Nathans, Werner Arber shared the 1978 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for the discovery of restriction endonucleases. In 2011, Pope Benedict XVI appointed Arber as President of the Pontifical Academy—the first Protestant to hold that position.[229]
Robert T. Bakker (born 1945): Paleontologist who was a figure in the "dinosaur Renaissance" and known for the theory some dinosaurs were Warm-blooded. He is also a Pentecostal preacher who advocates theistic evolution and has written on religion.[230]
R. J. Berry (born 1934): He is a former president of both the Linnean Society of London and the Christians in Science group. He also wrote God and the Biologist: Personal Exploration of Science and Faith (Apollos 1996) ISBN 0-85111-446-6 H taught at University College London for over 20 years.[231]
Francis Collins (born 1950): He is the current director of the National Institutes of Health and former director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute. He has also written on religious matters in articles and in Faith and the Human Genome he states the importance to him of "the literal and historical Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, which is the cornerstone of what I believe." He wrote the book The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief.[232]
Darrel R. Falk (born 1946): Darrel Falk is an American biologist and the former president of the BioLogos Foundation.[233]
Charles Foster (born 1962): Charles Foster is a science writer on natural history, evolutionary biology, and theology. A Fellow of Green Templeton College, Oxford, the Royal Geographical Society, and the Linnean Society of London,[234] Foster has advocated theistic evolution in his book, The Selfless Gene (2009).[235]
John Gurdon (born 1933): Sir John Bertrand Gurdon is a British developmental biologist. In 2012, he and Shinya Yamanaka were awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine for the discovery that mature cells can be converted to stem cells. In an interview with EWTN.com on the subject of working with the Vatican in dialogue, he says "I'm not a Roman Catholic. I'm a Christian, of the Church of England...I've never seen the Vatican before, so that's a new experience, and I'm grateful for it."[236]
Brian Heap (born 1935): Biologist who was Master of St Edmund's College, University of Cambridge and was a founding member of the International Society for Science and Religion.[237][238]
William B. Hurlbut (born 194?): William Hurlbut is a physician and Consulting Professor at the Stanford Neuroscience Institute, Stanford University Medical Center. In addition to teaching at Stanford, Hurlbut served for eight years on the President's Council on Bioethics and is nationally known for his advocacy of Altered Nuclear Transfer (ANT).[239]
Brian Kobilka (born 1955): He is an American Nobel Prize winner of Chemistry in 2012, and is professor in the departments of Molecular and Cellular Physiology at Stanford University School of Medicine. Kobilka attends the Catholic Community at Stanford, Calif.[240]
Denis Lamoureux (born 1954): Denis Lamoureux is an evolutionary creationist and holds a professorial chair of science and religion at St. Joseph's College at the University of Alberta, Canada—the first of its kind in Canada, and with Phillip E. Johnson, Lamoureux co-authored Darwinism Defeated? The Johnson-Lamoureux Debate on Biological Origins (1999). Lamoureux has also written Evolutionary Creation: A Christian Approach to Evolution (2008).[241]

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