Out gay Republicans help reshape party's image after election slap

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What a bunch looser's and of all people Mark the molester Foley what trash quick someone call Waste management
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But they still can't go to all the important conservative meetings that drive the republican party's selection of candidates.

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Truth wrote:
But they still can't go to all the important conservative meetings that drive the republican party's selection of candidates.
I think its going to be a long time before any conservatives are going to win any elections except by dis-infringing voting and the gay's have the very least to do with it
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Notice the double-speak hypocrisy when talking about running as an openly gay Republican: "it did ruffle some feathers,” Carr says.“For some people I wasn’t the ideal Republican because I did not espouse every part of their moral belief system.”
and “I did face resistance in the gay community for being Republican, but in the Republican community for being gay I didn’t have the same problem.” So, this moron thinks that ruffling feathers and being considered not the ideal Republican because he's gay isn't resistance but ruffling feathers in the gay community because he is Republican is resistance.
Then there is the Log Cabin moron who thinks that presidents pass laws.

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Why "reshape the image" of our opposition?

That's giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

These guys have the worst cases of Stockholm Syndrom I've ever seen!

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Ken Melhman submitted one of the 50 briefs supporting equality in the prop. 8 case.

Links to PDF copies of major amicus briefs filed in support of the constitutional challenge to California's Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot measure that eliminated equal marriage rights for same-sex partners:

http://www.sfcityattorney.org/index.aspx...

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I don't see this making much of a difference on whether we get equal rights or not. I seriously doubt Kennedy or Roberts is going to swayed by a few has been Repulicans supporting marriage equality.

We will have achieved marriage equality long before there is significant support among the average republicans.

After that happens it will just become a non-issue in both parties and support or opposition to gay rights won't even come up anymore.
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Sure, if you're going to pursue distorted concentrations of wealth, capital punishment, lying invasions of other countries, enforced misogyny, then why shouldn't that project be gay friendly?

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
I don't see this making much of a difference on whether we get equal rights or not. I seriously doubt Kennedy or Roberts is going to swayed by a few has been Repulicans supporting marriage equality.
We will have achieved marriage equality long before there is significant support among the average republicans.
After that happens it will just become a non-issue in both parties and support or opposition to gay rights won't even come up anymore.
it's always going to come up there are too many religious groups to let it die, even Canada the conservatives are trying to take away rights but don't have the votes in the house.

and BTW you might want to join Foxie in proof reading & spelling 101

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disaster in the making wrote:
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it's always going to come up there are too many religious groups to let it die, even Canada the conservatives are trying to take away rights but don't have the votes in the house.
and BTW you might want to join Foxie in proof reading & spelling 101
It may come up from the individuals within the party, but those in office or running for office will no longer make it a major campaign issue like they did in '04.

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It may come up from the individuals within the party, but those in office or running for office will no longer make it a major campaign issue like they did in '04.
So WE will have to, won't we.

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There is so much wrong with the Republican Party at this time, I wonder if they truly can "fix" it. One particular statement struck me. Paraphrased, it says that the country looks favorably on them when it comes to financial and defense issues. Granted, that used to be their strong suit. However, I believe they squandered that favor-ability. Particularly with the Neo-Cons engaging in, or calling for, war when it is not truly indicated. No matter the situation, they have McCain's philosophy of "Bomb, bomb, bomb". And that is probably just the least of their problems. And financially speaking, they are a basket-case at the moment.

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So WE will have to, won't we.
Yes, it will be up to the Dems to force the issue now that we have majority support. We can't let the GOPasaurs quietly sweep our issues under the rug, especially during their primaries. We need to remind people they not only opposed marriage, but civil unions as well. We can't allow them to whitewash history.

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There is so much wrong with the Republican Party at this time, I wonder if they truly can "fix" it. One particular statement struck me. Paraphrased, it says that the country looks favorably on them when it comes to financial and defense issues. Granted, that used to be their strong suit. However, I believe they squandered that favor-ability. Particularly with the Neo-Cons engaging in, or calling for, war when it is not truly indicated. No matter the situation, they have McCain's philosophy of "Bomb, bomb, bomb". And that is probably just the least of their problems. And financially speaking, they are a basket-case at the moment.
I think the die-hard social conservatives will either leave or be forced out of the party before the GOPasaurs can move forward as a national party.

The social conservatives are so entrenched in their beliefs, they will never support a GOP which supports gay rights or abortion rights. So one or the other is going to have to give.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Yes, it will be up to the Dems to force the issue now that we have majority support. We can't let the GOPasaurs quietly sweep our issues under the rug, especially during their primaries. We need to remind people they not only opposed marriage, but civil unions as well. We can't allow them to whitewash history.
Unless they have changed it recently, the party platform still calls for writing discrimination and prejudice into the constitution. Some state platforms still call for re-criminalization of being gay! While great that more Republicans are voicing support for equality, they can't claim, as a party, to be supportive or even neutral as long as they officially call for using the law to discriminate.

If they are going to "reshape" the party's image, they must put it in writing.

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Well,it seems as if everyone has a slightly different opinion, which is good of course. I will just have to wait and see how this all develops between now and 2014 and 2016. For the moment, I don't see the Republicans reweaving the fabric of their platform very much between now and then. We shall see.

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Not Yet Equal wrote:
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Unless they have changed it recently, the party platform still calls for writing discrimination and prejudice into the constitution. Some state platforms still call for re-criminalization of being gay! While great that more Republicans are voicing support for equality, they can't claim, as a party, to be supportive or even neutral as long as they officially call for using the law to discriminate.
If they are going to "reshape" the party's image, they must put it in writing.
I actually DON'T think they will reshape their party's image; they will just hope the issue quietly goes away after DOMA is overturned and more states pass marriage equality. The leaders know it's a losing issue, but they also know they can't openly buck their anti-gay base without risking an open revolt in the party.

That's why it will be up to us to remind everyone of the offical GOP position & national/state party platforms. We already saw Romney & others try to distance themselves from the official party platform in the last election. The "MSM" did a good job of pointing out the hypocrisy of an official party platform calling for a federal constitutional ban while some GOP candidates were saying it's a state issue.

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RalphB wrote:
Well,it seems as if everyone has a slightly different opinion, which is good of course. I will just have to wait and see how this all develops between now and 2014 and 2016. For the moment, I don't see the Republicans reweaving the fabric of their platform very much between now and then. We shall see.
It will likely take another spanking in 2016 for them to finally act.

If Hillary is elected President (that's my prediction), the GOPasaurs will then be in absolute panic mode at the thought of her in the White House for 8 years; especially when they realize that means she will likely get to replace both Scalia & Kennedy- assuming they aren't already off the court by then.

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It will likely take another spanking in 2016 for them to finally act.
If Hillary is elected President (that's my prediction), the GOPasaurs will then be in absolute panic mode at the thought of her in the White House for 8 years; especially when they realize that means she will likely get to replace both Scalia & Kennedy- assuming they aren't already off the court by then.
Well, nothing I like better than giving someone a good spanking. Lovingly, of course. Count me in.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I actually DON'T think they will reshape their party's image; they will just hope the issue quietly goes away after DOMA is overturned and more states pass marriage equality. The leaders know it's a losing issue, but they also know they can't openly buck their anti-gay base without risking an open revolt in the party.
That's why it will be up to us to remind everyone of the offical GOP position & national/state party platforms. We already saw Romney & others try to distance themselves from the official party platform in the last election. The "MSM" did a good job of pointing out the hypocrisy of an official party platform calling for a federal constitutional ban while some GOP candidates were saying it's a state issue.
Agreed.

Until they put it in writing and votes, the words don't mean much. I do however believe more than just a few tokens are starting to move in the direction of equality. But we can't let up until the promise of equality is fully realized and protected.

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