Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 Full story: news.yahoo.com 16,105

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#1658 Jan 29, 2013
Jeff wrote:
That would be true if she does both activities at the same time. Are homosexuals also bisexual?
It really should cause as much pain to be that stupid as it does to have to read just how painfully stupid you can get. She's only bisexual if she's doing both at once? What a moron.
TRYING

Morgantown, WV

#1659 Jan 29, 2013
TRYING wrote:
THIS TOPIX THREAD? Will it pit church against CHURCH. YES IT SHOULD if one makes the wrong CHOICE to follow Satan or NOT!! I don't back down. GOD NEVER MEANT this to happen between same sexes. PERIOD <><><> FOT this REASON ( MARRIAGE between a MAN and WOMAN,) Let NO man come between them .
FOR this cause( MAN shall forsake HIS MOTHER AND FATHER.) Its written.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#1660 Jan 29, 2013
TRYING wrote:
THIS TOPIX THREAD? Will it pit church against CHURCH. YES IT SHOULD if one makes the wrong CHOICE to follow Satan or NOT!! I don't back down. GOD NEVER MEANT this to happen between same sexes. PERIOD <><><> FOT this REASON ( MARRIAGE between a MAN and WOMAN,) Let NO man come between them .
Sweetie, nobody really cares if your version of God approves or not, there are plenty that do. Your hateful little God is irrelevant.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1661 Jan 29, 2013
TRYING wrote:
<quoted text> FOR this cause( MAN shall forsake HIS MOTHER AND FATHER.) Its written.
Written by ignorant Bronze Age goat herders.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#1662 Jan 29, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>It really should cause as much pain to be that stupid as it does to have to read just how painfully stupid you can get. She's only bisexual if she's doing both at once? What a moron.
Rick it looks like Ann Heche did change from being a lesbian to being heterosexual. Consider this: "In 2007, Heche's life began to mirror her own character: She separated from her husband, with whom she became involved in a public child custody battle. Thereafter, Heche became romantically linked to her television co-star, James Tupper."
http://www.biography.com/people/anne-heche-25...

She is proof that a person's sexual orientation can change. Agreed?

Since: Sep 12

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#1663 Jan 29, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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More crapola from another arrogant Christardo.
if you check scriptures what was said was not arrogant or wrong ..

it seems to have struck some misconceived notion you have about homosexuality though ..

most people would guess by your reply either your homosexual or your family or friends are..

you can fess up no one thinks its right for homosexuals to be draged by the back of a car bumper or murdered on a stretch of wyomings barb wire fences ..

its simply the spiritual propblem homosexuality causes that we find repugnant and that the devil delights in..

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#1664 Jan 29, 2013
Jeff wrote:
She is proof that a person's sexual orientation can change. Agreed?
She is proof that you are an idiot. Agreed?
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#1665 Jan 29, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>She is proof that you are an idiot. Agreed?
When someone gets nasty with me I know I hit a nerve. The truth can hurt can't it?

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#1666 Jan 29, 2013
spiritual propblem homosexuality causes

if the homosexual can not admit they sin in this way They wont want the forgivness for that sin Jesus won for them on the cross..

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT WRONG BECAUSE mere MEN SAY SO its wrong because God says so..

iF MEN WANT TO HEAR GOD SPEAK TO THEM THEY SHOULD READ HOLY SCRIPTURE,,

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#1667 Jan 29, 2013
Jeff wrote:
When someone gets nasty with me I know I hit a nerve. The truth can hurt can't it?
You can just add that to the list of the many things that you are sadly mistaken about, sweetie. The only truth in our little discussion has been coming from me and yes, you are a moron.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#1668 Jan 29, 2013
supersinner wrote:
spiritual propblem homosexuality causes
if the homosexual can not admit they sin in this way They wont want the forgivness for that sin Jesus won for them on the cross..
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT WRONG BECAUSE mere MEN SAY SO its wrong because God says so..
iF MEN WANT TO HEAR GOD SPEAK TO THEM THEY SHOULD READ HOLY SCRIPTURE,,
Sweetie, if that is really the nonsense you want to stand before God with, good luck, I have a feeling that you're going to need it. Blaming God for your choice to be an irrational bigot, he should be pleased.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1669 Jan 29, 2013
epitome wrote:
homosexuality and christianity are not compatable with each other ..a person soon will love one concept and hate the other concept ..
And that is why satan tries to make acceptance of homosexuality the loving thing to do by christians ..
satan wants christians to love homosexuals all the way to hell ..
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Matthew 4:16-18
16 the people living in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of the shadow of death
a light has dawned.”
17 From that time on Jesus began to preach,“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”
Acts 20:21
I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.
Reality and Christianity are not compatible with each other.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1670 Jan 29, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Rick it looks like Ann Heche did change from being a lesbian to being heterosexual. Consider this: "In 2007, Heche's life began to mirror her own character: She separated from her husband, with whom she became involved in a public child custody battle. Thereafter, Heche became romantically linked to her television co-star, James Tupper."
http://www.biography.com/people/anne-heche-25...
She is proof that a person's sexual orientation can change. Agreed?
No.
Change yours, then we can agree.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1671 Jan 29, 2013
supersinner wrote:
spiritual propblem homosexuality causes
if the homosexual can not admit they sin in this way They wont want the forgivness for that sin Jesus won for them on the cross..
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT WRONG BECAUSE mere MEN SAY SO its wrong because God says so..
iF MEN WANT TO HEAR GOD SPEAK TO THEM THEY SHOULD READ HOLY SCRIPTURE,,
The buy-bull? It indicates the earth is flat.

Since: Oct 09

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#1672 Jan 29, 2013
What an absurd concept.

Did the Sun and earth pit the Catholic Church against the scientists in the middle ages?? No one is stupid enough to think that. The ignorance of the leaders in those days caused the rift with their own vindictiveness.

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#1673 Jan 29, 2013
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> What the hell are you even talking about ? Christ taught love, not love only heterosexuals.
Jesus taught "repent or perish" (Luke 13:3).........quit sinning (Mark 9:43-48)......."Judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24)......Hell is a real place place (Luke 16:19-31). You need to read the entire New Testament not just the "love verses".

Homosexuals need to repent and turn to Jesus!
Acts 3:19- Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Revelation 20:15- And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#1674 Jan 29, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You can just add that to the list of the many things that you are sadly mistaken about, sweetie. The only truth in our little discussion has been coming from me and yes, you are a moron.
If I'm a moron what does that make you? Admit it. You don't like the truth.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#1675 Jan 29, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
You got it wrong again hon. The Bible has been shown to be historically true by historical methods that are used in the study of history.
Not by any legitimate scholar.

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Since: Jun 07

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#1676 Jan 29, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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If people were created for same sex activities then the "plumbing" would match the desires. Secondly, there is no evidence people are born gay. There has yet to be found a gay gene.
AS I mentioned earlier, here are a variety of studies that show that homosexuality is genetic or epigenetic in nature. It is not a learned behavior, it is inate and not subject to change.

Part 1 of many...

Study based on fingertip ridges:

J.A.Y. Hall and D. Kimura at the University of Western Ontario at London ON Canada found a relationship between the number of fingertip ridges on men and their sexual orientation. 7 They compared the number of ridges on the index finger and thumb of the left hand with the number on the corresponding fingers of the right hand. They found that 30% of the homosexuals tested had a surplus of ridges on their left hand, whereas only 14% of the heterosexuals did. This is a particularly interesting finding, because fingerprints are fully determined in a fetus before the 17th week of pregnancy, and do not change thereafter, through birth, infancy, childhood, youth and adulthood. This would seem to prove that for at least some adult homosexuals, their sexual orientation was pre-determined before birth, perhaps at conception; certainly by the end of the 4th month of pregnancy. 8,9

7 Caleb Crain, "Did a germ make you gay," Out magazine, 1999-AUG, Pages 46 to 49.

8 Anne Moir and David Jessel, "Brainsex", Dell Books (1993)

9 Dean Hamer & Peter Copeland "The Science of Desire: The Search for the Gay Gene & the Biology of Behavior", Simon & Schuster (1994)

“No Allah: know peace”

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#1677 Jan 29, 2013
Part 2

Study based on finger-lengths:

A California psychologist, Marc Breedlove, "conducted his research at three street fairs in the San Francisco Bay area in the fall of 1999." Each study participant had his or her hand photocopied on a portable copy machine to record finger length. Participants also filled out a questionnaire on sexual orientation and birth order. 720 volunteers participated. They found that lesbians tended to have shorter index fingers (relative to their ring fingers) than did heterosexual women. They also found that gay males tended to have shorter index fingers (relative to their ring fingers) than heterosexual males. The relative size of a person's fingers is determined well before birth. These findings imply that sexual orientation is at least partly decided before birth -- perhaps at conception when a person's unique DNA is established. 10

10 "Male hormone levels in womb may affect sexual orientation, study says," CNN.com Health, 2000-MAR-29, at: http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/03/29/

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