Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 | Posted by: SongBookz | Full story: news.yahoo.com

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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Dusty Mangina wrote:
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News flash, Stan.... you're not God.
Very astute Dusty. Glad you realize God doesn't need to post on forums, nor would he. He speaks to us by His Holy Spirit and His Word.

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I am not convinced by circular arguments.
Actually that one is ONE direction, you just didn't understand it.

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Truth wrote:
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our will....
Correct!
We should be doing HIS WILL (God's will).
Yes! God will hold the individual responsible.
Again, SIN is an <<<ACT>>> committed 'by' the individual.
Or an act NOT committed, such as described in James 2.

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The one absolute truth is that there are no absolute truths. No matter how certain YOU are that God agrees with you, it's still HIS call, not yours.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
The one absolute truth is that there are no absolute truths. No matter how certain YOU are that God agrees with you, it's still HIS call, not yours.
What God says, IS absolute.

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Stan53 wrote:
What God says, IS absolute.
Then how is it possible for there to be more than one English version of the Bible? If what God says is absolute, there shouldn't be more than one possible translation.

You claim that what God says is absolute and yet you pick and choose among the rules He set forth to live by. So much for that absolute, unless you are keeping ALL of the 600+ commandments in the Old and New Testaments.

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Define "morals."
Define "endangers."
Allowing same-sex marriage does neither of these as far as I've seen. Please show us the evidence that same-sex marriage does these things. It's been around long enough for there to be evidence. Let's see it.
There is no such thing as ss 'marriage'. The fact that it is distinguished with words is proof alone that it is not the real thing.

It does not therefore matter what affect it has.

At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Ss couple are a defective failure of mating behavior. Literally 'unmarriage', and certainly not equal.

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There is no such thing as ss 'marriage'. The fact that it is distinguished with words is proof alone that it is not the real thing.
It does not therefore matter what affect it has.
At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Ss couple are a defective failure of mating behavior. Literally 'unmarriage', and certainly not equal.
Smirk.
How's that working out for you? Support for SSM continues to grow, in spite of your opinions.

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How's that working out for you? Support for SSM continues to grow, in spite of your opinions.
Why do I bother you so much then?

Every time I plunge the knife of reality to the hilt into the belly of denial and twist it with a smirk, you squeal.

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Another empty threat from another empty religitard.
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Why do I bother you so much then?
Every time I plunge the knife of reality to the hilt into the belly of denial and twist it with a smirk, you squeal.
SMirk.

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KiMare wrote:
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Why do I bother you so much then?
Every time I plunge the knife of reality to the hilt into the belly of denial and twist it with a smirk, you squeal.
SMirk.
Thinking wrote:
Another empty threat from another empty religitard.
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1. It was not a threat.

2. There is nothing religious about it.

Double duh.

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Remember the demise of 'don't ask, don't tell'?

" men made up nearly 40 percent of the patients the VA treated last year for conditions connected to what it calls "military sexual trauma."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/20/
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<quoted text>Then how is it possible for there to be more than one English version of the Bible? If what God says is absolute, there shouldn't be more than one possible translation.
You claim that what God says is absolute and yet you pick and choose among the rules He set forth to live by. So much for that absolute, unless you are keeping ALL of the 600+ commandments in the Old and New Testaments.
Truth is the same in ANY language, and is NOT effected by it. The written laws in the OT have nothing to do with truth. I don't pick and choose anything, God does. He now writes His truth on our hearts and minds, which is how He designed His New Covenant.

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Stan53 wrote:
Truth is the same in ANY language, and is NOT effected by it.
That does absolutely nothing to explain how there can be so many possible English translations and in fact, proves them impossible.
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The written laws in the OT have nothing to do with truth.
They are God's laws and commandments, where exactly do YOU get off telling HIM they are irrelevant to the "truth"? You have read the Bible haven't you? God says they are important, JESUS says they are important (He was teaching a better way of being Jewish, after all) and yet to you, not so much. Good luck with that one.
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I don't pick and choose anything, God does.
Despite your absolute certainty to the contrary, EVERYTHING you choose to believe about God, YOUR choice, NOT HIS. You might be better at this if you had actually read the Book at some point instead of relying on others to tell you what's in it. You might have heard about free will at some point. It would be easier to explain to you how your beliefs are a prime example of free will in action.
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He now writes His truth on our hearts and minds, which is how He designed His New Covenant.
I know figs from thistles.

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I am convinced by my faith in Jesus and the Bible. Truth is truth regardless of one's belief, so anyone should accept it, because it is true. Absolutes are absolute.
And why do you have faith in Jesus and the Bible?

And, why is your faith in Jesus and the Bible better than a Muslim's faith in Mohammed and the Koran?

Prove your Bible is true.

Good luck.

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Truth is the same in ANY language, and is NOT effected by it. The written laws in the OT have nothing to do with truth. I don't pick and choose anything, God does. He now writes His truth on our hearts and minds, which is how He designed His New Covenant.
Isn't it a coincidence that you're a Caucasian male in America and just so happen to be a Christian? Wouldn't it be just as big a coincidence if you were an Arab male in Saudi Arabia and just so happened to be a Muslim?

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Remember the demise of 'don't ask, don't tell'?
" men made up nearly 40 percent of the patients the VA treated last year for conditions connected to what it calls "military sexual trauma."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/20/
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So, you agree that sexual abuse is an enormous problem in the military.

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There is no such thing as ss 'marriage'. The fact that it is distinguished with words is proof alone that it is not the real thing.
It does not therefore matter what affect it has.
At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Ss couple are a defective failure of mating behavior. Literally 'unmarriage', and certainly not equal.
Smirk.
The same things were said about inter-racial marriage.

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Stan53 wrote:
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Actually that one is ONE direction, you just didn't understand it.
You're convinced of the Bible's truth by your faith in Jesus and the Bible. So, you're convinced that it's true because you believe it's true. How is that not exactly a circular argument?

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And why do you have faith in Jesus and the Bible?
And, why is your faith in Jesus and the Bible better than a Muslim's faith in Mohammed and the Koran?
Prove your Bible is true.
Good luck.
Open your eyes idiot.

Better yet, go to Saudi Arabia and ask them to legalize ss marriage.

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