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Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

There are 16097 comments on the news.yahoo.com story from Apr 27, 2009, titled Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?. In it, news.yahoo.com reports that:

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at news.yahoo.com.

Thinking

Decatur, GA

#14306 Apr 27, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's my good boi?
Milk bone?
You need to live by the fruit of the spirit

Galatians 5:16-26
New International Version (NIV)
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[a] you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
Thinking

Darlington, UK

#14307 Apr 27, 2013
I note that dollarsbill was also retarded enough to leave the verse numbers in his bible cut and paste!

Not very clever, these identity thieves...

Every time they lie, jesus kills a kitten.
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's my good boi?
Milk bone?

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#14308 Apr 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is how Jesus described marriage;
Matthew 19:4-6 (NASB)
And He answered and said, "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
5 and said,'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'?
6 "So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."
When the disciples expressed shock, here is the option Jesus offered;
Matthew 19:11-12 (NASB)
11 But He said to them, "Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given.
12 "For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it."
Judeo/Christian morality has always been male/female sex within marriage, or celibacy outside of marriage.
I know, you are going to accuse me of being a lying Nazi.
Smirk.
Context?

Jesus was discussing divorce dispensations rather than marriage per se.

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#14309 Apr 27, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to live by the fruit of the spirit
Galatians 5:16-26
New International Version (NIV) Wisdom 7

16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[a] you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
Check this out for comparison.

The Nature of Wisdom

For in her there is a spirit that is intelligent, holy,
unique, manifold, subtle,
mobile, clear, unpolluted,
distinct, invulnerable, loving the good, keen,
irresistible, 23 beneficent, humane,
steadfast, sure, free from anxiety,
all-powerful, overseeing all,
and penetrating through all spirits
that are intelligent and pure and most subtle.
24 For wisdom is more mobile than any motion;
because of her pureness she pervades and penetrates all things.
25 For she is a breath of the power of God,
and a pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty;
therefore nothing defiled gains entrance into her.
26 For she is a reflection of eternal light,
a spotless mirror of the working of God,
and an image of his goodness.
27 Though she is but one, she can do all things,
and while remaining in herself, she renews all things;
in every generation she passes into holy souls
and makes them friends of God, and prophets;
28 for God loves nothing so much as the man who lives with wisdom.
29 For she is more beautiful than the sun,
and excels every constellation of the stars.
Compared with the light she is found to be superior,
30 for it is succeeded by the night,
but against wisdom evil does not prevail.

Wisdom 16

24 For creation, serving thee who hast made it,
exerts itself to punish the unrighteous,
and in kindness relaxes on behalf of those who trust in thee.
25 Therefore at that time also, changed into all forms,
it served thy all-nourishing bounty,
according to the desire of those who had need,[g]
26 so that thy sons, whom thou didst love, O Lord, might learn
that it is not the production of crops that feeds man,
but that thy word preserves those who trust in thee.
27 For what was not destroyed by fire
was melted when simply warmed by a fleeting ray of the sun,
28 to make it known that one must rise before the sun to give thee thanks,
and must pray to thee at the dawning of the light;
29 for the hope of an ungrateful man will melt like wintry frost,
and flow away like waste water.

Too bad the Protestant Bibles deleted this important chapter.

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#14310 Apr 27, 2013
Link to Book of Wisdom from The Catholic Bible.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

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#14314 Apr 28, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I note that dollarsbill was also retarded enough to leave the verse numbers in his bible cut and paste!
Not very clever, these identity thieves...
Every time they lie, jesus kills a kitten.
<quoted text>
Jesus is a kitteh

http://www.gamerdna.com/public/images/user_im...
Thinking

Darlington, UK

#14315 Apr 28, 2013
dollarzbill no finkz 2 gud [sic]
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is a kitteh
http://www.gamerdna.com/public/images/user_im...

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

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#14316 Apr 28, 2013
Thinking wrote:
dollarzbill no finkz 2 gud [sic]
<quoted text>
I'm going to Hell, right now.

I'm going there knowing that I'm bubbly illiterate.

Or something like that.
Thinking

Darlington, UK

#14317 Apr 28, 2013
I've been to Hell, in Norway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway

See you there.
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm going to Hell, right now.
I'm going there knowing that I'm bubbly illiterate.
Or something like that.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14318 Apr 28, 2013
I like Matthew 19 where Jesus gives the alternative to marriage.

Smile.

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#14319 Apr 28, 2013
I like Matthew 19 where Yeshua says to the pharisees that Mosaic record isn't all prophetic utterence.

" ... Moses say ... "
" ... Moses allowed ... "

etc.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14320 Apr 28, 2013
snyper wrote:
I like Matthew 19 where Yeshua says to the pharisees that Mosaic record isn't all prophetic utterence.
" ... Moses say ... "
" ... Moses allowed ... "
etc.
Gay twirl deceit.

Jesus affirmed what Moses said. That is why you removed all the context of both quotes except for two words.

Jesus affirmed that marriage was between a man and woman, and that the option was abstinence.

It's not complicated, what are you having trouble understanding?

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14322 Apr 28, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>No a biblical marriage is between a man and as many females as he can buy, steal, trade for, be given, or rape. Its all in your book, learn it.
What the Bible says about Rape
Of an unbetrothed virgin
If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.-- Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Of prisoners of war
And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.-- Numbers 31:15-18
It is better not to marry. But if you must have sex, then get married. It's better to be married than burn forever in hell.
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.-- 1 Corinthians 7:1-2
For I would that all men were even as I myself.... I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.-- 1 Corinthians 7:7-9
If you're not already married, don't get married. If you have a wife, don't have sex with her. There's not enough time since Jesus is coming soon.
Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.-- 1 Corinthians 7:27
But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none.-- 1 Corinthians 7:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =OFkeKKszXTwXX
Gay twirl stupidity.

Certainly not 'all the facts'. You are simply a gay troll bigot.

What don't you understand about Matthew 19?

Smile.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#14323 Apr 28, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay twirl stupidity.
Certainly not 'all the facts'. You are simply a gay troll bigot.
What don't you understand about Matthew 19?
Smile.
Oh, so your God doesn't support a rapist buying his victim?

Your God doesn't support conquering a city and taking the virgin females as prizes?

Your God doesn't support polygamy?

Weird, because your Bible explicitly says he does.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14325 Apr 28, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Here is the main flaw in your post. I am not Gay. Now lets review, a Biblical Marriage is not between one man and one woman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =OFkeKKszXTwXX
What don't you understand about Matthew 19?

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14326 Apr 28, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, so your God doesn't support a rapist buying his victim?
Your God doesn't support conquering a city and taking the virgin females as prizes?
Your God doesn't support polygamy?
Weird, because your Bible explicitly says he does.
No, it doesn't.

Smile.

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#14327 Apr 28, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay twirl deceit.
Jesus affirmed what Moses said. That is why you removed all the context of both quotes except for two words.
Jesus affirmed that marriage was between a man and woman, and that the option was abstinence.
It's not complicated, what are you having trouble understanding?
Smile.
No, it is fact.

We can see you brook no opposition just like the men Jesus was chastising.

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#14328 Apr 28, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
What don't you understand about Matthew 19?
Smile.
Why not ask yourself that question?

Since: Jul 10

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#14330 Apr 28, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay twirl deceit.
Jesus affirmed what Moses said. That is why you removed all the context of both quotes except for two words.
Jesus affirmed that marriage was between a man and woman, and that the option was abstinence.
It's not complicated, what are you having trouble understanding?
Smile.
You are aware I think that Moses is considered by many Bible scholars as a fictional character, and there is no evidence of any of his life and the events around his life, such as the exodus from Egypt.
Uncircumcised Philistine

Jackson, GA

#14332 Apr 28, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay twirl deceit.
Jesus affirmed what Moses said. That is why you removed all the context of both quotes except for two words.
Jesus affirmed that marriage was between a man and woman, and that the option was abstinence.
It's not complicated, what are you having trouble understanding?
Smile.
Very simple yet true.

But you are making too much sense and that will get you in trouble on topix with the gays, atheists and trolls.

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