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Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

There are 16098 comments on the news.yahoo.com story from Apr 27, 2009, titled Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?. In it, news.yahoo.com reports that:

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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#14263 Apr 24, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Gapes? I'll show you gapes: http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/9...
How many times, dearheart, have I told you to stop playing with your food!

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#14264 Apr 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Did you know Moses had an interracial marriage?
That was a rhetorical question.
Idiot.
Smile.
Abraham had multiple wives. Does that make polygamy acceptable?

"Person X did it" isn't a justification for bad behavior, is it?

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#14265 Apr 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Tomorrow is Thursday.
My neighbor will come home late from work and unload groceries.
How does my knowledge of what she will do undermine her free will?
Idiot.
Smirk.
Is she free to deviate from what you consider your knowledge of what she will do?

Is she free to deviate from what God knows she will do?

That's the difference.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#14266 Apr 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The degree of accuracy does not change the fact that knowing what someone will do does not hinder their free will.
Smile.
So, we DO have the ability to do something other than what God already knows we will do? That is true free will. If we are powerless to do anything other than what God has already said we will do, we are nothing more than automata, following a predestined course of action.

If Calvinistic determinism is your thing, then free will is meaningless. If you don't agree with Calvinistic determinism, then your idea of God's omniscience is a logical contradiction with our free will. You can't have it both ways. They are mutually exclusive conditions. Pick one.

dollarsbill

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#14267 Apr 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
We know for sure that the god you worship, if it exists, is not compassionate and all powerful.
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How do you know? You don't LOLOL! Chalk up another ignorant post!

dollarsbill

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#14268 Apr 25, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>The way I see it sweetie, every time you mention God, the more you make it clear that while you claim with absolute certainty that you know Him, He doesn't know you.
But you are blinded and Biblically illiterate. Your gay opinions won't save you.

dollarsbill

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#14269 Apr 25, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Worthless opinion.
Prove it.
Thinking

Wincanton, UK

#14270 Apr 25, 2013
dumbbill worships the god of the gapes.[sic]
LowellGuy wrote:
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Gapes? I'll show you gapes: http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/9...

dollarsbill

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#14271 Apr 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
dumbbill worships the god of the gapes.[sic]
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At least your ignorant posts are consistent.
Thinking

Wincanton, UK

#14272 Apr 25, 2013
You are, of course, wrong. I've never posted "god of the gapes" [sic] before.

You, however, post the same old bollocks day in and day out.
dollarsbill wrote:
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At least your ignorant posts are consistent.

dollarsbill

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#14273 Apr 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
You are, of course, wrong. I've never posted "god of the gapes" [sic] before.
You, however, post the same old bollocks day in and day out.
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But you have now, IGNORANT!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14274 Apr 25, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Is she free to deviate from what you consider your knowledge of what she will do?
Is she free to deviate from what God knows she will do?
That's the difference.
She doesn't know what God knows.

Here is a personal example.

YOU know what God says is right, but you choose to violate it. Sounds like free will to me...

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14275 Apr 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Did you know Moses had an interracial marriage?
That was a rhetorical question.
Idiot.
Smile.
LowellGuy wrote:
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Abraham had multiple wives. Does that make polygamy acceptable?
"Person X did it" isn't a justification for bad behavior, is it?
The intention of marriage is stated at the very beginning of the Bible, and affirmed by Jesus.

No where is interracial marriage forbidden.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#14276 Apr 25, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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So, we DO have the ability to do something other than what God already knows we will do? That is true free will. If we are powerless to do anything other than what God has already said we will do, we are nothing more than automata, following a predestined course of action.
If Calvinistic determinism is your thing, then free will is meaningless. If you don't agree with Calvinistic determinism, then your idea of God's omniscience is a logical contradiction with our free will. You can't have it both ways. They are mutually exclusive conditions. Pick one.
They are 'mutually exclusive'?

Only in your small mind.

You clearly have no idea what God knows, nor do you care, so you do whatever you will.

God knew you would do that.

Smile.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#14278 Apr 25, 2013
As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

You are not only to be Holy on Saturday the Sabbath or Sundays the first day

of the week.

But every day of the week.

Every day is Holy to God.

God is Holy.

Despite what people say and teach.

God requires His children to be Holy unto Him.

Every day of the week.

And to keep every day Holy.

How can someone be unholy and born again?

That doesn't even add up to be right.

There are a lot of people who are not born again thinking they are born again.

Because they have been deceived into believing they have been born again of the Spirit.

The Jews believed that being a Jew automatically made them Holy and sin forgiven and a child of God.

Like the Christians that believe being a christian automatically makes you Holy and a child of God.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#14280 Apr 25, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
But you are blinded and Biblically illiterate. Your gay opinions won't save you.
I see quite clearly buttercup and far more biblically literate than you pray you want me to be. Your self-professed "Christian" opinions won't being you either sweetie, the Bible tells you so. Are you listening?

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#14281 Apr 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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She doesn't know what God knows.
Here is a personal example.
YOU know what God says is right, but you choose to violate it. Sounds like free will to me...
Smile.
I'd have to know God exists first, and I know no such thing, nor do you. You BELIEVE it, but you don't KNOW it. Why? Because knowledge is based on evidence. It is a subset of belief.

But, that's all irrelevant. If your God is omniscient, we have no free will to do things contrary to his predetermined outcomes. If we have free will, your God is not omniscient. You can't have it both ways. Pick one.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#14282 Apr 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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They are 'mutually exclusive'?
Only in your small mind.
You clearly have no idea what God knows, nor do you care, so you do whatever you will.
God knew you would do that.
Smile.
You already defined God's omniscience. Your definition of God's omniscience is contradictory to free will. Is God omniscient or do we have free will?

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#14283 Apr 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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Did you know Moses had an interracial marriage?
That was a rhetorical question.
Idiot.
Smile.
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The intention of marriage is stated at the very beginning of the Bible, and affirmed by Jesus.
No where is interracial marriage forbidden.
Smile.
I said the law, not the Bible, forbade inter-racial marriage.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#14284 Apr 25, 2013
Fremont Rose wrote:
<quoted text>Why not,since you are employing the same logic that NAMBLA and gay pedophiles empoy. You do know that nothing you gays do is outside what NAMBLA told you to do.
Also, omnipotence has nothing to do with freewill. Are you claiming to be omnipotent, because you can look back in time and predict what you did? Boy, you gays are jusr dumb. Get smart.
Ah the favorite bogeyman of gaybashing Nazis, "NAMBLA." There is no such thing. This "group" does not exist.
There's no such thing as a "gay pedophile." A pedophile is sexually attracted to children. A homosexual is attracted to adults of the same sex. And gay people are NOT more likely to molest children than straight people are.
You're just parroting the same old hateful lies that were proven false long ago. At the root of all bigotry are the same two root causes--ignorance and cowardice.

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