Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against ...

Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

There are 16097 comments on the news.yahoo.com story from Apr 27, 2009, titled Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?. In it, news.yahoo.com reports that:

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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#12728 Apr 8, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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No doubt, but not the important things of God. There will be MANY in Hell with impressive degrees.
Are you EVER going to learn to debate?

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#12729 Apr 8, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Remember you called God profane, He will.
Saul is not "God", but a plagiarist heretic and apostate.

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#12730 Apr 8, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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"to ha happened"?
lol. Multitasking. When I post from my phone I can't always see a complete sentence and, if interrupted (frequently) I miss some things.

btw: You misquoted. The original was, " ... ha have happened ... ". lol

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#12731 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>So Jarboy, why do you exist?
Why does it matter if anyone has 'rights'?
What moral code dictates any such thing?
Lets see you think without copy and pasting.
Smile.
You are a product of nature (your words). Survival of the fittest. You live, you die, you are no more.
There is no moral code. There are no inherent rights. The only thing that matters is to survive. Whatever you can get away with is okay. You can steal, murder, lie, deprive others of their supposed rights if it enhances your ability to survive. If life gets too difficult, the sensible thing to do is end it rather than suffer.
Common sense would also dictate that if someone in a 'pack' is injured, defective or unprofitable, they should be eliminated.
That Jarboy is the logical conclusion of your world view.
And you mock religion?
Smirk.
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On what basis? Faith?
Reason takes you there and only there child of nature. Look it up.
Smile.
False generalizations.

Wolves in a pack will care for their injured or ill.

False analogy.

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#12732 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Hardly, just addressing your stupidity.
Here is a list of distinctions in marriage;
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by an imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no affect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
You've got your own laundry list, there. Why should I, or anyone, alter their lives and their Freedom to satisfy any of it?

Reproduction is not a defined Government interest in Civil Marriage.

Drop it.

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#12733 Apr 8, 2013
GreaterGreece wrote:
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Christianity bad, Sodomy good..........Got it?
Funny.

But let's take a look at what is ACTUALLY meant by "sodomy", by those who wrote the story:

http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13827-...

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#12734 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Can you prove that He doesn't exist???
Do you have any common sense???
Man + Man = what???
Fallacies:

Argument from ignorance
Argument from silence
Shifting the Burden of Proof

"Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat"

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#12735 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Can you prove that He doesn't exist???
Do you have any common sense???
Man + Man = what???
Family.

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#12736 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Man has no capacity in himself to restrain the weeds of his sinfulness or to cultivate the good produce of righteousness.
Prove it.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#12737 Apr 8, 2013
Here is another angle to consider with same sex marriage. Comes from the other side of the pond and his point is well taken and could apply here. His last comment is priceless:

"Jeremy Irons: Gay Marriage Could Lead to Fathers Marrying Sons

British actor Jeremy Irons has sparked outrage by suggesting gay marriage in Britain could lead to fathers marrying their sons in a bid to avoid inheritance tax.

The Lolita star made the strange comments in an interview with the Huffington Post in which he claimed a law allowing same-sex couples to officially marry could create a loophole to bypass the U.K.'s heavy death duties.
He told the publication, "Could a father not marry his son?... It's not incest between men (because) incest (law) is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don't breed," adding, "I don't have a strong feeling either way. Living with another animal, whether it be a husband or a dog, is great. It's lovely to have someone to love."

http://www.charismamag.com/life/culture/17306 ...

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#12738 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
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If He was standing right in front of you, you still wouldn't believe that He exists....
So YOUR point is, is that He doesn't exists.
God's Spirit is knocking at your door....your Spirit hasn't let Him come in yet.
Fallacies:

Argumentum ad ignorantium
Argumentum e silentio
False attribution
Mind projection fallacy
Petitio principii
Reification

Are you EVER going to learn how to debate?

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#12739 Apr 8, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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Stop with your religious babble. Not everyone shares your beliefs. That's what they are is beliefs not facts.
It's called the "Reification Fallacy".

"a fallacy of ambiguity, when an abstraction (abstract belief or hypothetical construct) is treated as if it were a concrete, real event or physical entity. In other words, it is the error of treating as a "real thing" something which is not a real thing, but merely an idea."

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#12740 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
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The woman was created to be a suitable companion for the man.
The woman is seen as the crown of creation--that which not merely completes creation, but prompts the benediction that now finally all was VERY GOOD!
Common sense???
If woman is a suitable companion, please explain the fact that most men prefer the company of other men over women. Please explain the fact that most women prefer the company of other women over men.

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#12741 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Common sense clicks in....no I would not be raping, killing, and stealing.....
As well as common sense when it comes to same sex marriages....
As Judge Judy says, "if it doesn't make SENSE, it is NOT true."
If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist.
Objective moral values do exist.
Therefore, God exists.
The fallacy you used in your prior statement is called

"Fallacy of the single cause" (causal oversimplification) it is assumed that there is one, simple cause of an outcome when in reality it may have been caused by a number of only jointly sufficient causes.

Really. LEARN.

Here's a good place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacie...

Master these and you will be hoodwinked far less often.

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#12742 Apr 8, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>I have over my many years living on this traveling rock, found myself looking for said evidence. As of late, I have come to realize that there can be no god. If there where a god, he/she/it would have seen fit to replace all the oil that we consume, thus lowering my fuel bill.
Off topic, but interesting:

&fe ature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Not in English, but what is going on is clear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#12743 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Common sense clicks in....no I would not be raping, killing, and stealing.....
As well as common sense when it comes to same sex marriages....
As Judge Judy says, "if it doesn't make SENSE, it is NOT true."
If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist.
Objective moral values do exist.
Therefore, God exists.
&fe ature=youtu.be

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#12744 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
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If you're sincerely seeking God, God will make His existence evident to you.
Nonsense.

&li st=PLCD32D0CC58528CCE

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#12745 Apr 8, 2013
Jeff wrote:
Here is another angle to consider with same sex marriage. Comes from the other side of the pond and his point is well taken and could apply here. His last comment is priceless:
"Jeremy Irons: Gay Marriage Could Lead to Fathers Marrying Sons
British actor Jeremy Irons has sparked outrage by suggesting gay marriage in Britain could lead to fathers marrying their sons in a bid to avoid inheritance tax.
The Lolita star made the strange comments in an interview with the Huffington Post in which he claimed a law allowing same-sex couples to officially marry could create a loophole to bypass the U.K.'s heavy death duties.
He told the publication, "Could a father not marry his son?... It's not incest between men (because) incest (law) is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don't breed," adding, "I don't have a strong feeling either way. Living with another animal, whether it be a husband or a dog, is great. It's lovely to have someone to love."
http://www.charismamag.com/life/culture/17306 ...
Fallacy: False analogy

No familial relationship needs to be recognized by Government. Fathers and sons are already family.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#12746 Apr 8, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Fallacy: False analogy
No familial relationship needs to be recognized by Government. Fathers and sons are already family.
This would not be a good reason for them not to marry though. Laws can be changed as we are seeing in the same sex marriage debates.

Since: Mar 12

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#12747 Apr 8, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>It's called the "Reification Fallacy".

"a fallacy of ambiguity, when an abstraction (abstract belief or hypothetical construct) is treated as if it were a concrete, real event or physical entity. In other words, it is the error of treating as a "real thing" something which is not a real thing, but merely an idea."
So your religion is a fallacy?

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