Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 | Posted by: SongBookz | Full story: news.yahoo.com

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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Liam R wrote:
Isaiah 53 in depth...
http://noachieten.nl/messiahtruth.com/isai53a...
It goes into a verse by verse breakdown, and carefully explains exactly why it has NOTHING to do with Jesus.
Isaiah 53:10-12

10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.

11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because <<<<<he poured out his life unto death,>>>>>
and was numbered with the transgressors.
<<<<<For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.>>>> >

What would the Suffering Servant receive from all this?

The Lord would be pleased by His offering for sin.

The Lord would be satisfied by the Righteous Servant justifying many, bearing their iniquities.

The Lord would reward Him for bearing the sin of many, and interceding for the transgressors.

How can this have NOTHING to do with Jesus???

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If you believe in the theory of evolution and believe that man evolved from an ape or a gorilla does that mean that in some way apes and men are brothers?
The theory or evolution would say,“yes, in some ways men and apes are brothers.”
Things of the animal kingdom will reproduce after their own kind.
An ape will produce another ape.
A man and woman will produce another human and there is NEVER the possibility of producing something other than a human.
Many Creationist are stuck on the ape. Perhaps man evolved from an ape or some other being. The point is that plants and animals evolve through the process of natural selection and mutation, which is a proven fact. What about horses and donkey producing a mule? Ooops, you didn't think about that did you? What about closely related plants being combined and producing hybrid fruits? What about genetically engineered plants? You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Many Creationist are stuck on the ape. Perhaps man evolved from an ape or some other being. The point is that plants and animals evolve through the process of natural selection and mutation, which is a proven fact. What about horses and donkey producing a mule? Ooops, you didn't think about that did you? What about closely related plants being combined and producing hybrid fruits? What about genetically engineered plants? You have no idea what you are talking about.
In 1912 Piltdown Man hit the headlines. Evidence of the evolutionary 'missing link' between apes and humans had been found, in England. For the next 40 years this momentous discovery influenced research into human evolution.

Then in 1953 Piltdown hit the headlines again, this time revealed as a hoax, a scientific fraud of shocking proportions. Who did it and why? Follow the story so far.

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/science-of...
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Many Creationist are stuck on the ape. Perhaps man evolved from an ape or some other being. The point is that plants and animals evolve through the process of natural selection and mutation, which is a proven fact. What about horses and donkey producing a mule? Ooops, you didn't think about that did you? What about closely related plants being combined and producing hybrid fruits? What about genetically engineered plants? You have no idea what you are talking about.
After Piltdown

Across the world, fossil discoveries contradict the Piltdown evidence, instead suggesting that jaws and teeth became human-like before the evolution of a large brain.

1944 September 2: Smith Woodward dies shortly after dictating his book, The Earliest Englishman, to his wife.

1949 Kenneth Oakley runs flourine tests that reveal the Piltdown fossils are more like 50,000 than 500,000 years old.

1953 Joseph Weiner and Wilfrid Le Gros Clark join Oakley and discover the skull and jawbone come from entirely different species.

1953 November 21: The Natural History Museum announces Piltdown Man is a hoax.

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Many Creationist are stuck on the ape. Perhaps man evolved from an ape or some other being. The point is that plants and animals evolve through the process of natural selection and mutation, which is a proven fact. What about horses and donkey producing a mule? Ooops, you didn't think about that did you? What about closely related plants being combined and producing hybrid fruits? What about genetically engineered plants? You have no idea what you are talking about.
"Then God said,'Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind..."

It is a natural fact.

Living things reproduce after their own kind.

Ducks have baby ducks.

It is not only a biological fact, but also a spiritual fact.
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Many Creationist are stuck on the ape. Perhaps man evolved from an ape or some other being. The point is that plants and animals evolve through the process of natural selection and mutation, which is a proven fact. What about horses and donkey producing a mule? Ooops, you didn't think about that did you? What about closely related plants being combined and producing hybrid fruits? What about genetically engineered plants? You have no idea what you are talking about.
The biblical record is quite clear.....—that the genetic code was designed to copy itself faithfully.

In Genesis 1:11-12 we read:“And God said, let the earth put forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind, wherein is the seed thereof upon the earth, and it was so.

And the earth brought forth grass, the herb yielding seed and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind whose seed was in itself.”

Now, look at these scriptures and figure out the importance:

Leviticus 11:13-23

13 “‘These are the birds you are to regard as unclean and not eat because they are unclean: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture,

14 the red kite, any kind of black kite, 15 any kind of raven,

16 the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk,

17 the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl,

18 the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey,

19 the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat.

20 “‘All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be regarded as unclean by you.

21 There are, however, some flying insects that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground.

22 Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper.

23 But all other flying insects that have four legs you are to regard as unclean.

The most ancient human records engraved on stone or painted on the walls of caves bare witness to the fact that horses have ever been horses, bears have ever been bears, geese have ever been geese, reindeer have ever been reindeer.
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Many Creationist are stuck on the ape. Perhaps man evolved from an ape or some other being. The point is that plants and animals evolve through the process of natural selection and mutation, which is a proven fact. What about horses and donkey producing a mule? Ooops, you didn't think about that did you? What about closely related plants being combined and producing hybrid fruits? What about genetically engineered plants? You have no idea what you are talking about.
It is so simple to understand:

Hebrews 3:4

4 For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything.

Things still reproduce "after their kind" just as He designed them "in the beginning."

Man’s genetic laws express little more than what God set into motion from time immemorial.
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Many Creationist are stuck on the ape. Perhaps man evolved from an ape or some other being. The point is that plants and animals evolve through the process of natural selection and mutation, which is a proven fact. What about horses and donkey producing a mule? Ooops, you didn't think about that did you? What about closely related plants being combined and producing hybrid fruits? What about genetically engineered plants? You have no idea what you are talking about.
Now, you can figure out the spiritual realm in all of this...
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Mark 4:28

28 All by itself the soil produces grain—first the stalk, then the head, then the full kernel in the head.
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Isaiah 53 in depth...
http://noachieten.nl/messiahtruth.com/isai53a...
It goes into a verse by verse breakdown, and carefully explains exactly why it has NOTHING to do with Jesus.
Isaiah foretold Jesus’ character, obedience, and relationship with His Father in amazing details, 750 years before He came to earth.
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Isaiah 53 in depth...
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Isaiah 42:7

7 ~to open eyes that are blind,~
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.(bondage of sin)

Isaiah predicted the amazing healing ministry of the Messiah...He can free us from the bondage of sin.

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Really? Geesh.
In which Bible translation did the word "homosexual" first appear, and what word did it replace, if any? If you can't answer - look it up.
At least TRY to use scripture in context.
All English Bibles condemn homosexuals to eternal Hell fire.

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I've called dollarsbill on this before.
How could you when you are Biblically illiterate?

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Righto!!! Billy Bunny takes a trip on the short bus. LMAO
Revelation 1:1 (NKJV)
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,

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You want to portray yourself as somewhat literate and not a moron, yet you use "LOL?"
OMG WTF BBQ!!!!!!!1!!1!!one
Don't make ignorant comments and I won't laugh.

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<quoted text>Is Jesus Brittish?
Totally irrelevant. Are you expert in Greek?
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Troll cu*t.
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How could you when you are Biblically illiterate?
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No, but he's seeking asylum.
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<quoted text>Is Jesus Brittish?

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No, but he's seeking asylum.
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True, but not your asylum.

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"Then God said,'Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind..."
It is a natural fact.
Living things reproduce after their own kind.
Ducks have baby ducks.
It is not only a biological fact, but also a spiritual fact.
The Biblical timeline is less than 10,000 years. The earth is around 4.5 billion years old. Evidence of humans can be traced too around 100,000 years. The Bible is a pre-scientific fantasy.

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