Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 | Posted by: SongBookz | Full story: news.yahoo.com

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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“Too much LDS in the 60's”

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Jeepers you are creepy wrote:
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It mattersnot what the APA states or shows...the numbers are strictly estimates and NOT hard facts, so homosexuality is still a mental sexual dysfunction cuased but aberrant issues during childhood.
English not your first language? Is your inability to spell "cuased but aberrant issues during childhood"?

Stop picking your nose, it's giving you brain damage.
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Whine, whine, whine. And who would be the ones doing the bullying in a city that is at least 60% LDS? Mormon kids who been taught to hate homosexuality. It is very ration to blame the source.
It sounds like you whining boy. If you gaybots can't defend yourselves then go bakc into your gay communities and stop molesting children and classmates. Why do you gays do this? Because you were taught to hate your same sex parent so this is a form of proxy attack and hatred. Why do you gays hate your parents and even kill them and then kill innocent children?

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Dana Robertson wrote:
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Whine, whine, whine. When I make a claim I back it up. I've caught you in too many lies to believe anything say, especially considering the bible, and most of the time I'm right. You can''t back up your claims with scripture. So if you want me to believe something you say, back it up, and stop being such wussy. I'm certainly not going to waste my time trying to prove you correct.
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Perfect example of what I just spoke of. This link doesn't work.
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And who would be the ones doing the bullying in a city that is at least 60% LDS? Mormon kids who been taught to hate homosexuality. It is very ration to blame the source.
Bull crap and liar. You know very little of the Bible. You proved that over and over and over. And you seldom if ever link a source to what you claim.
Next, I posted a quote from the web. If the link doesn't work, shade half of it and hit "search Google" and you be taken to links.
Next, you'll have to supply actual reliable sources to prove Mormon parents, not active and active parents are the only parents teaching homosexual hate to Mormon kids. You didn't include proof. And you did state... "When I make a claim I back it up." You claim Mormon parents, that would be all Mormon parents of all Mormon kids who attend Utah schools teach their kids to hate homosexuals. You didn't say some or a few or many or 50% you said... "And who would be the ones doing the bullying in a city that is at least 60% LDS? Mormon kids who been taught to hate homosexuality." By the way, the bullying happens through out Utah, not just Salt Lake City so get your information correct.
So prove your statement or be your own liar :)
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Jeff wrote:
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Gay bowel syndrome:
http://conservapedia.com/Gay_bowel_syndrome
ahahahahahh
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You are hilarious!
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<quoted text>Welcome to the Gay disease Hour. Norcal was abused as a child and that made her gay. Her daughter is Lilith and she is a prostitute and Lilith is the normal one of the family. NorCal thinks that she gave birth to her child when she was an idiot but she does not see that an idiot knows no difference.
These gays were all abused as children but they think that it is a coinkydink that they turned out gay. NorCal says look at her daugher Lilith but we say well look NorCal your daughter Lilith is a prostitute with herpes. No matter what we say, they would rather kill innocent gays than live their miserable lives as invisible gays.
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Many gay leaders have threatened to kill and harm our children if they don't get gay marriage and look.
As if....

Can't you make up a better lie than that?
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Jeff wrote:
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Check this out on a study that shows problems with children raised by gay parents:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-574517...
The norm for marriage is between male and female who can procreate. That is the gold standard. Those that don't, are the exceptions.
Either way you look at it, same sex couples cannot naturally procreate. You do understand biology don't you?
Conclusions drawn from sloppy methodology ate useless. Didn't read the whole article, did you? Intact parental relationships are the gold standard. When there is stability, children fare better. That's the only meaningful conclusion one can legitimately draw from that study.

Again, if procreation is what marriage is about (originally it wasn't), then why allow the infertile, elderly, and people who choose not to have children to marry?
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<quoted text>Gays are first in every sex disease category. 80% of all AIDS cases are gays. The CDC says that gays get sexual viruses and strains that are not evn found among straights.
That's how evolution works, retard. When an organism population is isolated from the rest of its species, it encounters different environmental pressures, which result in speciation. It's this thing called "science." But, they aren't acquiring entirely new viruses or bacteria...just subspecies of existing viruses and bacteria that have been isolated in the homosexual population (along with those from the heterosexual population). And, those from the homosexual population also find their way into the heterosexual population. Here's an idea: don't be stupid.

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Hi Tony,
Hope all is well........welcome to the Fundamentalist Christian idiots......they believe that we are wrong and they are right and no matter what we say, they have some anti-gay biased site backing up their ridiculous claims.
Peace!!!
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These gays were all abused as children but they think that it is a coinkydink that they turned out gay..........
What an odd idea. Fortunately, it isn't supported by the facts. Why do you people make up this sort of thing?
Were YOU molested, and did that cause your great fear and begin the irrational thought patterns?
Of so, it is never to late to seek help and change your life for the better.

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Hiya PORNO pete! always a laugh when you post.. cause you're such an idiot!
Hows that president of NAMBLA position goin for ya? How many kids have ya molested this week?

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Blake wrote:
<quoted text>You apparently don't understand science. The largest pier reviewed study on the subject, and the only with with sufficient data to draw reliable conclusions, indicates enormous problems with homosexual parenting. Which didn't .....
Well gee willikers, Dumplin', so far the only "peer reviewed studies' I have read with conclusions usher from folks that have already reached those conclusion and bend the data to fit those conclusions-hardly seem very sporting from the bastions of morality and truth, now does it?

Marriage not being "building block"-well DUH, Captain Obvious, considering the historical social pressure against pair-bonding. The fact is as more and more gays and lesbians mainstream the more they assume the mainstream affectations and ideals. The push for gay marriage represents a new pardigm in the gay community for the simple fact we are more and more finding an environment to fulfill those same desires for bonding and commitment their straight counterparts have always had the luxury of doing. We're a group of people in transition, as is the culture, and our place is not yet assured, the proof being that politicians can still play political football with our basic rights, gay bashing and bullying are both happening and with the tacit approval of a pushy, militant segment of our society, and the fact there are still a$$holes like yourself coming to these forums and peddling your bullsh*t.Like any culture in transition it takes awhile for our basic psychology and methodologies based on it to catch up with our new conditions, and removed from the conditions that prevents real intimacy and commitment will find future gay and lesbians gravitating toward the new normal of picket fences and a couple growing old together.And the main obsticals in gay aprenting is YOU and people like you who feel some moral obligation to offset whatever love, nurturing and stability they have at home with their same-sex parents by terroizing them when you get catch them in public and get your filthy hands on them. Your assertion is like claiming gays cause housefires then throwing a molitov coctail through our front room window to prove it.Guess what, Wilbur, your plane doesn't fly.
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You really expect me to click on something called "conservapedia" and take it seriously?
p.s. My husband and I do not bother with anal sex. What is your objection now?
I'm not just talking about you and your partner. Look at the CDC stats and tell us how healthy this is.
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<quoted text>You apparently don't understand science. The largest pier reviewed study on the subject, and the only with with sufficient data to draw reliable conclusions, indicates enormous problems with homosexual parenting. Which didn't you need, a mother or a father? Did one of your parents bring multiple sex partners into the home when you were little?
Homosexual 'marriage' is a complete fraud.
It has been overwhelmingly rejected by homosexuals as an actual practice in every country that allows it, and studies have shown that most such 'marriages' aren't even exclusive arrangements.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage. No child is ever born as a direct result and no such relationship can provide a child with a father and mother. Homosexual 'marriage,' where legal, isn't even a basic building block of homosexual society, much less of society as a whole. There is no standardized format for homosexual 'marriages,' and no economically unequal genders are involved.
Why not forget about disenfranchising others in order for force your concocted, failed philosophy into law? Why not try a little live and let live?
Brilliant.

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I'm not just talking about you and your partner. Look at the CDC stats and tell us how healthy this is.
The fact is, it's as healthy as the individuals make it.

Nothing you can post will justify discriminating against gay marriages. Do you attempt to deny marriages to police officers or coal miners? They're more likely to die young than I am.

You have no case. You're grasping at straws desperately trying to discredit something. But for every objection you raise, the same scenario can be found in heterosexual marriage, therefore you have no case. You just can't handle that, so you keep going round and round. But you'll never make a point.

Since my marriage is absolutely guaranteed to never result in any disease, you can't make a law based on "most" or "many" or "some" or "a few." My marriage disproves your assertions.

Further, many heterosexual marriages are disease-ridden.

And many heterosexual women have HIV and give birth to babies with HIV. Do you prevent them from getting married?

You really need to get your act together.

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Brilliant.
And there you go, two peas in a pod. "Black" is David. He changes his name every 10 minutes, posting from "Pekin IL" because he's been booted from topix so many times. He is perhaps the single most discredited poster here for years and years. He is gay, and is here working out his issues in a very messed up way.

And that is with whom you align yourself.

Thank God I don't have your life.
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The fact is, it's as healthy as the individuals make it.
Nothing you can post will justify discriminating against gay marriages. Do you attempt to deny marriages to police officers or coal miners? They're more likely to die young than I am.
You have no case. You're grasping at straws desperately trying to discredit something. But for every objection you raise, the same scenario can be found in heterosexual marriage, therefore you have no case. You just can't handle that, so you keep going round and round. But you'll never make a point.
Since my marriage is absolutely guaranteed to never result in any disease, you can't make a law based on "most" or "many" or "some" or "a few." My marriage disproves your assertions.
Further, many heterosexual marriages are disease-ridden.
And many heterosexual women have HIV and give birth to babies with HIV. Do you prevent them from getting married?
You really need to get your act together.
Homosexual sexual practices cannot be healthy. There is just no way getting around this. Of course we should be discriminating against same sex "marriage" or any other kind of crackpot configuration of marriage beyond a man and a woman. The reasons are that only a marriage between a man and a woman can procreate naturally and is the very best way to raise children. Marriage should be based on opposite genders and not on what a person does for a living.
I hope you and your partner don't get sick. But you are the exception to the rule and not the norm. Good laws are not based on exceptions but on what is best. Same sex marriage is not the best.

I'm not against same marriage just because its unhealthy but that its unnatural and is not the best way to raise children. Children need traditional parents i.e. male-female to be raised properly. Same sex relationships cannot achieve this.

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And there you go, two peas in a pod. "Black" is David. He changes his name every 10 minutes, posting from "Pekin IL" because he's been booted from topix so many times. He is perhaps the single most discredited poster here for years and years. He is gay, and is here working out his issues in a very messed up way.
And that is with whom you align yourself.
Thank God I don't have your life.
I don't care what a poster is if they post the truth. Its the truth that matters.
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Blake wrote:
<quoted text>You apparently don't understand science. The largest pier reviewed study on the subject, and the only with with sufficient data to draw reliable conclusions, indicates enormous problems with homosexual parenting. Which didn't you need, a mother or a father? Did one of your parents bring multiple sex partners into the home when you were little?
Homosexual 'marriage' is a complete fraud.
It has been overwhelmingly rejected by homosexuals as an actual practice in every country that allows it, and studies have shown that most such 'marriages' aren't even exclusive arrangements.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage. No child is ever born as a direct result and no such relationship can provide a child with a father and mother. Homosexual 'marriage,' where legal, isn't even a basic building block of homosexual society, much less of society as a whole. There is no standardized format for homosexual 'marriages,' and no economically unequal genders are involved.
Why not forget about disenfranchising others in order for force your concocted, failed philosophy into law? Why not try a little live and let live?
Bigger studies with sloppy methodologies are just as useless as small studies with sloppy methodologies. It's a bad study because the methodology doesn't take divorce into account for heterosexual parents, nor single parenthood with heterosexual parents. Leaving out influential variables from the methodology means they cannot isolate anything to homosexuality or same-sex couples. It's a bad study, and the conclusions drawn are necessarily invalid as a result. Maybe if you understood how science and peer review work, you would be more sensible.
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Blake wrote:
<quoted text>You apparently don't understand science. The largest pier reviewed study on the subject, and the only with with sufficient data to draw reliable conclusions, indicates enormous problems with homosexual parenting. Which didn't you need, a mother or a father? Did one of your parents bring multiple sex partners into the home when you were little?
Homosexual 'marriage' is a complete fraud.
It has been overwhelmingly rejected by homosexuals as an actual practice in every country that allows it, and studies have shown that most such 'marriages' aren't even exclusive arrangements.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage. No child is ever born as a direct result and no such relationship can provide a child with a father and mother. Homosexual 'marriage,' where legal, isn't even a basic building block of homosexual society, much less of society as a whole. There is no standardized format for homosexual 'marriages,' and no economically unequal genders are involved.
Why not forget about disenfranchising others in order for force your concocted, failed philosophy into law? Why not try a little live and let live?
Define "disenfranchise."

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