Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 Full story: news.yahoo.com 16,105

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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#704 Jan 24, 2013
Flossy wrote:
Gays could care less about getting married.
Dissecting the 'gay' marriage charade
Published: 03/07/2012 at 7:51 PM
Anyone in the United States can participate in the institution of marriage Ė if they choose to do so.
Homosexuals donít usually choose to do so because they usually donít want to be married to members of the opposite sex. But itís their choice.
So why do homosexual activists make this claim? And how do they get away with making a patently false charge against a 6,000-year-old religious institution and the civil laws that it inspired?
Same-sex marriage advocates no more care about the legality of same-sex marriage than Hamas cares about the creation of a Palestinian state.
Neither is interested in creating something new Ė something that has never been before. Instead, what same-sex marriage advocates and the terrorists of the Gaza Strip have in common is their desire to destroy something they find repulsive. In Gaza, itís the Jewish state of Israel. Among homosexual activists, itís the institution of marriage.
By making the bogus claim that marriage, as it has been known through the eons, is inherently unfair because some people donít want to participate in it as it has always been defined, homosexual activists are able to establish for themselves what appears to be the political high ground of the victim. In exactly the same way, Arab terrorists are able to portray themselves as the victim by claiming they have been denied a state.
But scratch beneath the surface of these two movements and you will soon learn that their objectives go far beyond same-sex marriage and a Palestinian state.
For instance, letís examine the logic of the victimization homosexuals claim as the basis for pushing same-sex marriage. If it is true that limiting the definition of marriage to a union between one man and one woman is inherently a violation of civil rights, wouldnít it also be true that defining marriage as a union between just two people is equally discriminatory?
The advocates of same-sex marriage hate this challenge, because they have no intelligent response to it. By default, a capitulation to the same-sex marriage advocates represents future capitulation to the logic they use. That means support of same-sex marriage, to be consistent, must translate into support of polygamy and group marriages of any combination.
Recently, a columnist for the Huffington Post tried to make the case that, unlike same-sex marriage, which has never existed in the history ......
Given that this were true-and I have my very big doubts-access in this country isn't a number game-should we not have hadicapped access to public buildings because the number of people in a given population is miniscule and even if the majority of that miniscule group choose not to use that public facility?

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Since: Oct 08

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#705 Jan 24, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
Just like you claimed I said that Mormon parents teach there kids they would rather have them come home in casket "24/7". Another lie.
lol...really? I lied about what you said? Well explain the following that you said that I said you said. And remember, Mormon parents and single/widowed members teach the gospel standards to children in classes and at home. The "church" as a word doesn't teach anything of it's own you imbecile. The members of that "church" teaches this doctrine you pathetic idiot...lol
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"They do belong to a church (parents and members)that teaches their kids that they would rather their kids come home in a coffin than loss their chastity. That is a sick excuse for a religion."
"Nooo, they (parents and members) just teach their kids that they would rather them come home in a casket than for them to lose their chastity, and that is the message for LDS kids having straight sex."
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You did state it. You're a liar to say you didn't state it. Liar, liar, liar. Self admitted and self proven liar. Now what?

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#706 Jan 24, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Dana is a friend of mine. U, however are crazy and full of hate. Self hate, hate for gay children..to the point of trying to torture "the gay out of them. You are part of the problem, Ted.
No surprise's name is "ted"? as in theodore? OMG!
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#707 Jan 24, 2013
Tony C wrote:
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Thank you for proving all your previous posts wrong. Clearly the vast majority of gay men do not have HIV.
I'm glad we could clear that up, and you can stop making stuff up now.
Tony, you have a reading comprehension problem. Note this from that article that I posted:
"Earlier this month, the CDC released estimates for HIV infections from 2006-2009 showing that new infections remained stable at around 50,000 for each of the four years.
Homosexual men (men who have sex with men) accounted for 29,300 of the estimated 48,100 new infections in 2009, and homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases."

This means thousands upon thousands of homosexual men are being infected with something that will make them very sick and many will die. This alone proves how unhealthy homosexual sex is among men.

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#708 Jan 24, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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You claimed we said the LDS church is responsible for "all gay teen suicides." We didn't, you lied.
I went back to just one other Mormon thread and randomly scanned several dozen pages. This is a summery of what you and nemo have said in your blame game. I proved you're a liar on the other statement. You're a liar this time also.
You and nemo stated in various ways the following. They're not direct quotes because I have left out derogatory words, swearing and other inflammatory words you love to use as a Christian.
'The Mormon church is responsible for the death of gay teens...'
'The parents of this church are responsible for the deaths of gay children...'
'This church and the homophobic parents are murderers of their gay children and gay teens.'
'Mormon parents should be executed for the deaths of gay teens committing suicide...'
'The Mormon church is responsible for so many gay teen deaths all over the place...'
'All gay teen suicides are the fault of the Mormon church...'
'Mormon church kills so many homosexuals...'
'Parents and Mormon church responsible for so many deaths of homosexuals...'
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#709 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Tony, you have a reading comprehension problem. Note this from that article that I posted:
"Earlier this month, the CDC released estimates for HIV infections from 2006-2009 showing that new infections remained stable at around 50,000 for each of the four years.
Homosexual men (men who have sex with men) accounted for 29,300 of the estimated 48,100 new infections in 2009, and homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases."
This means thousands upon thousands of homosexual men are being infected with something that will make them very sick and many will die. This alone proves how unhealthy homosexual sex is among men.
Sex doesn't cause AIDS, dumbass.

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#710 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Tony, you have a reading comprehension problem. Note this from that article that I posted:
"Earlier this month, the CDC released estimates for HIV infections from 2006-2009 showing that new infections remained stable at around 50,000 for each of the four years.
Homosexual men (men who have sex with men) accounted for 29,300 of the estimated 48,100 new infections in 2009, and homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases."
This means thousands upon thousands of homosexual men are being infected with something that will make them very sick and many will die. This alone proves how unhealthy homosexual sex is among men.
Actually the rate is going down in the white community here and is rampant in the thug culture. Do you know why? One word: HOMOPHOBIA. Problem Jeff is statistics are meaningless without a context, and if you put this into context not just here but world-wide, the anti-gay attitude you wish to foster is one of the very social causes for the continuing spread of HIV.

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#711 Jan 24, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>I went back to just one other Mormon thread and randomly scanned several dozen pages. This is a summery of what you and nemo have said in your blame game. I proved you're a liar on the other statement. You're a liar this time also.
You and nemo stated in various ways the following. They're not direct quotes because I have left out derogatory words, swearing and other inflammatory words you love to use as a Christian.
'The Mormon church is responsible for the death of gay teens...'
'The parents of this church are responsible for the deaths of gay children...'
'This church and the homophobic parents are murderers of their gay children and gay teens.'
'Mormon parents should be executed for the deaths of gay teens committing suicide...'
'The Mormon church is responsible for so many gay teen deaths all over the place...'
'All gay teen suicides are the fault of the Mormon church...'
'Mormon church kills so many homosexuals...'
'Parents and Mormon church responsible for so many deaths of homosexuals...'
The Mormon church has blood on its hands..there are 5 suicide attempts by teens and young adults per day, on average in Utah. Whatever the hell u are babbling about doesn't erase the facts ted.

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#712 Jan 24, 2013
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>No surprise's name is "ted"? as in theodore? OMG!
Yes. And he's got a manifesto too
JohnDleeDiedForB YsSins

Clearlake, CA

#713 Jan 24, 2013
No Surprise said stating "'Parents and Mormon church responsible for so many deaths of homosexuals...' " was a lie.

a few stories of the results of a church with a policy of homophobia and how it treats those who were born gay and what this often results in. As the author pointed out, nobody really knows for sure how many succeeded. We can only talk to the survivors:

http://www.affirmation.org/suicide_info/suici...

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#714 Jan 24, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Dana is a friend of mine. U, however are crazy and full of hate. Self hate, hate for gay children..to the point of trying to torture "the gay out of them. You are part of the problem, Ted.
lolol.....you accuse me of hate?...lolol....you who have TRIED to write the most vicious, hateful, spiteful, mean, angry, dark, filthy, cussing derogatory words for Mormons, Mormon parents, the people that make up the Mormon church, people disagreeing about same sex marriage and or homosexuality, and you accuse me of hate? lolol..... yeah what ever you kind, caring, loving person....so fricking funny....just to much....thank you for the laughter...really, thank you :)

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#716 Jan 24, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>lolol.....you accuse me of hate?...lolol....you who have TRIED to write the most vicious, hateful, spiteful, mean, angry, dark, filthy, cussing derogatory words for Mormons, Mormon parents, the people that make up the Mormon church, people disagreeing about same sex marriage and or homosexuality, and you accuse me of hate? lolol..... yeah what ever you kind, caring, loving person....so fricking funny....just to much....thank you for the laughter...really, thank you :)
Yes, lunatic. Hate. Your self loathing has warped your brain
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#718 Jan 24, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>Sex doesn't cause AIDS, dumbass.
Don't be silly Jane. Engaging in it does.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#719 Jan 24, 2013
RubyTheDyke wrote:
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Actually the rate is going down in the white community here and is rampant in the thug culture. Do you know why? One word: HOMOPHOBIA. Problem Jeff is statistics are meaningless without a context, and if you put this into context not just here but world-wide, the anti-gay attitude you wish to foster is one of the very social causes for the continuing spread of HIV.
The source for these stats are from reliable sources such as the CDC. Many many homosexual are tragically suffering from diseases that they get from engaging in homosexual sexual practices.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#720 Jan 24, 2013
NoQ wrote:
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LMFAO I get laid all the time.
I knew you were typing with one hand. You're in here all the time.

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Since: Mar 09

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#721 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Don't be silly Jane. Engaging in it does.
Just to be clear: are you saying that engaging in sex causes AIDS, or are you saying that engaging in anal sex causes AIDS? Please specify. This is important information that MUST be shared with the CDC immediately!
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#722 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Don't be silly Jane. Engaging in it does.
No it doesn't. AIDS is caused by a virus, not by sex.

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#723 Jan 24, 2013
Tony C wrote:
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Funny, he made the exact same lies about my posts. First I just thought he wasn't reading the posts very carefully. Then I thought maybe he was just stupid.
Now I think he's just a pathological liar. He lies to himself still to this day about being gay. He uses religion to beat himself up. He has absolutely zero credibility on these boards.
lol....funny coming from the person who doesn't know what they think they know. Like you claiming (which was a lie liar)"No, no, no. There is no such phrase as "deep seeded." Well there is a phrase used as "deep seeded" disillusioned liar.
Or how about you as a liar in post #598 claiming I was admitting I was wrong about the spelling of "deep seeded"? but that it is "deep seated". When in fact I told you SEVEN PAGES EARLIER that I spelled it incorrectly? Need some more?
How about my using the phrase "tick for tack" and you claiming as a lie it was incorrect when it was correct. That there were three similar phrases and you claimed there was just one.
Your problem is your ego. You have a high and mighty self righteous attitude that Dana can't even dream of having.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#724 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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The source for these stats are from reliable sources such as the CDC. Many many homosexual are tragically suffering from diseases that they get from engaging in homosexual sexual practices.
Except that article wasn't FROM the CDC. You put that link there..... like the ol' bait&switch. Don't you think we've seen that exact shit a million times? Research it for yourself. Go directly to the CDC.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#726 Jan 24, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Just to be clear: are you saying that engaging in sex causes AIDS, or are you saying that engaging in anal sex causes AIDS? Please specify. This is important information that MUST be shared with the CDC immediately!
lol

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