Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 Full story: news.yahoo.com 16,104

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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Since: Oct 08

Earth

#681 Jan 24, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
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Why should it matter if they were in love with each other? How does that hurt YOU? God favored David and Jonathan.
That was an ignorant thing to state since no one was discussing whom the story hurt. The story isn't hurting any one that I'm aware of. Maybe it's hurting you and that's why you projected your wounded emotions onto me?
The discussion is whether there is evidence or there isn't evidence that Jonathan and David had a romantic relationship and or were married. Try reading the posts, it would help you understand what's being said.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#682 Jan 24, 2013
Catholic Girl wrote:
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So it's only a lie if you don't agree.
Hagh, figures, can't be true to yourself, how can anyone expect you to be true to anyone else.
No, it's a lie if it's not true, stupid.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#683 Jan 24, 2013
Samatha wrote:
It is amazing just how stupid Gays are! They attack Christianity because it doesn't agree with their lifestyle, yet their fail to realize most people do not obey their bible in the first place. Queers are hated because they are bigots and they are nasty!
Oh great, another winner with a brilliant mind...

Who is attacking Christianity? A whole lot of gay people are Christians, stupid.

There is no such thing as a gay "lifestyle," stupid.

Your next sentence made no sense.

Thanks for admitting your "christian" hatred.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#684 Jan 24, 2013
Flossy wrote:
Gays could care less about getting married.
Hence, the gay rights movement. HA!

Stupid.

Next.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#686 Jan 24, 2013
NoQ wrote:
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Lol for a TransQueer with a womans name and what he like to eat attached to the name, you're a funny pervert. LMFAO
Yeah... about as funny as you ever getting laid.
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#687 Jan 24, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>...snore...
look at the icons buddy, we are on to you fraud boy...
and I am guessing this site is all you have in life...

and keeping the "do do"is just great...is it that you are a dodo or more like sh!t?
I'd say equal parts of both...
keep the name..
I love it...
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#689 Jan 24, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
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Yeah... about as funny as you ever getting laid.
another gem by mona/Ida/Frankie/Jane poo...and whatever names we haven't caught him using yet...

what you have lack in knowledge or support you do have in anger idiocy, and childishness!

Do you think this behavior is acceptable anywhere butjersey?

But keep going as I say, you are USEFUL...
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#690 Jan 24, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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another gem by mona/Ida/Frankie/Jane poo...and whatever names we haven't caught him using yet...
what you have lack in knowledge or support you do have in anger idiocy, and childishness!
Do you think this behavior is acceptable anywhere butjersey?
But keep going as I say, you are USEFUL...
...snore...

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#691 Jan 24, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>lol...and that comes from the person Dana calls "kind, caring and loving" ... lolol. Keep proving what a disillusioned idiot Dana is concerning your "kind, caring, loving" character nemo lolol.
Dana is a friend of mine. U, however are crazy and full of hate. Self hate, hate for gay children..to the point of trying to torture "the gay out of them. You are part of the problem, Ted.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#692 Jan 24, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
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hahahahah
ahahahahah
Yeah, right. Now show us all your data.
"WASHINGTON, D.C., August 18, 2011 - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has estimated that practicing homosexual men account for 61% of the new HIV infections in the United States while they only amount to about 2% of the country’s population.

Earlier this month, the CDC released estimates for HIV infections from 2006-2009 showing that new infections remained stable at around 50,000 for each of the four years.

Homosexual men (men who have sex with men) accounted for 29,300 of the estimated 48,100 new infections in 2009, and homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases.

The only group in which new HIV infections is increasing, they say, is young homosexual men – driven by an alarming increase in infections from African Americans. They estimated that the new infections among young black homosexual men increased 48 percent in the period of 2006-2009 (from 4,400 HIV infections in 2006 to 6,500 infections in 2009).

The study also revealed that almost 20% of homosexual men have HIV, while nearly half of those who do are unaware of it."

www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-M ...
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#693 Jan 24, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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We can't help what you were born with. Let us know when you can tell the difference between the actions of two consenting adults, and predators who harm others.
The pedophile can't help it either. The sociopath also. Consent is irrelevant.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#694 Jan 24, 2013
NoQ wrote:
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Hey shiteater, don't make me tell you again, get your nasty Queer A$$ back down underneath the shithouse where you belong.
Hell no. I'm not coming to your house.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#695 Jan 24, 2013
NoQ wrote:
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Prison is a country club for you Fa$$ots. No doubt, as stupid as you are, you'll be joining soon. Just think, you can get your sh:t packed every night and enjoy your favorite dessert, Shit on A DlCK. LMFAO
So, how many times have you been to that "country club"? Had a good time, did you? We are sure you found "true love" there many times. Your butthole must be the size of the Holland tunnel by now.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#696 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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"WASHINGTON, D.C., August 18, 2011 - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has estimated that practicing homosexual men account for 61% of the new HIV infections in the United States while they only amount to about 2% of the country’s population.
Earlier this month, the CDC released estimates for HIV infections from 2006-2009 showing that new infections remained stable at around 50,000 for each of the four years.
Homosexual men (men who have sex with men) accounted for 29,300 of the estimated 48,100 new infections in 2009, and homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases.
The only group in which new HIV infections is increasing, they say, is young homosexual men – driven by an alarming increase in infections from African Americans. They estimated that the new infections among young black homosexual men increased 48 percent in the period of 2006-2009 (from 4,400 HIV infections in 2006 to 6,500 infections in 2009).
The study also revealed that almost 20% of homosexual men have HIV, while nearly half of those who do are unaware of it."
www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-M ...
And you think this supports your claim?
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#697 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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The pedophile can't help it either. The sociopath also. Consent is irrelevant.
Consent is irrelevant? Are you daft?

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#698 Jan 24, 2013
Flossy wrote:
Gays could care less about getting married.
Dissecting the 'gay' marriage charade
Published: 03/07/2012 at 7:51 PM
Anyone in the United States can participate in the institution of marriage – if they choose to do so.
Homosexuals don’t usually choose to do so because they usually don’t want to be married to members of the opposite sex. But it’s their choice.
So why do homosexual activists make this claim? And how do they get away with making a patently false charge against a 6,000-year-old religious institution and the civil laws that it inspired?
Same-sex marriage advocates no more care about the legality of same-sex marriage than Hamas cares about the creation of a Palestinian state.
Neither is interested in creating something new – something that has never been before. Instead, what same-sex marriage advocates and the terrorists of the Gaza Strip have in common is their desire to destroy something they find repulsive. In Gaza, it’s the Jewish state of Israel. Among homosexual activists, it’s the institution of marriage.
By making the bogus claim that marriage, as it has been known through the eons, is inherently unfair because some people don’t want to participate in it as it has always been defined, homosexual activists are able to establish for themselves what appears to be the political high ground of the victim. In exactly the same way, Arab terrorists are able to portray themselves as the victim by claiming they have been denied a state.
But scratch beneath the surface of these two movements and you will soon learn that their objectives go far beyond same-sex marriage and a Palestinian state.
For instance, let’s examine the logic of the victimization homosexuals claim as the basis for pushing same-sex marriage. If it is true that limiting the definition of marriage to a union between one man and one woman is inherently a violation of civil rights, wouldn’t it also be true that defining marriage as a union between just two people is equally discriminatory?
The advocates of same-sex marriage hate this challenge, because they have no intelligent response to it. By default, a capitulation to the same-sex marriage advocates represents future capitulation to the logic they use. That means support of same-sex marriage, to be consistent, must translate into support of polygamy and group marriages of any combination.
Recently, a columnist for the Huffington Post tried to make the case that, unlike same-sex marriage, which has never existed in the history of the world anywhere at any time, polygamy represents a clear and present danger to society. That’s the distinction, he claimed. He cites one infamous polygamist leader charged with sexual assaults and incest-related felony counts as examples of how this works. Of course, he ignores a virtual epidemic of violence and molestation in the homosexual community in favor of one isolated case in the polygamy community.
Eliyahu Federman also states:“There isn’t a shred of modern sociological evidence to support the claim that gay marriage is harmful to society, whereas there is a plethora of historical and contemporary evidence to illustrate the dangers associated with polygamy.”
Ten years ago, the notion of same-sex marriage was scarcely even discussed, let alone performed. So the absence of a body of evidence is a red herring. In the case of polygamy, however, we have thousands of years of history to examine.
It is amazing how quickly the same-sex marriage advocates have been able to rally support from the media, the cultural establishment, the government elite and the judiciary for a radical social experiment that challenges the fundamental building block of human civilization – the family.
The same arguments were made against inter-racial marriage. Whites and blacks were free to marry, as long as they were marrying someone of the same race, etc. Justifying bigotry with racism is hardly making your point, or perhaps it's EXACTLY making your point.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#700 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
"WASHINGTON, D.C., August 18, 2011 - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has estimated that practicing homosexual men account for 61% of the new HIV infections in the United States while they only amount to about 2% of the country’s population.
Earlier this month, the CDC released estimates for HIV infections from 2006-2009 showing that new infections remained stable at around 50,000 for each of the four years.
Homosexual men (men who have sex with men) accounted for 29,300 of the estimated 48,100 new infections in 2009, and homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases.
The only group in which new HIV infections is increasing, they say, is young homosexual men – driven by an alarming increase in infections from African Americans. They estimated that the new infections among young black homosexual men increased 48 percent in the period of 2006-2009 (from 4,400 HIV infections in 2006 to 6,500 infections in 2009).
The study also revealed that almost 20% of homosexual men have HIV, while nearly half of those who do are unaware of it."
www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-M ...
So, anal sex causes HIV? I don't see anything about anal sex causing HIV anywhere in there. Maybe you have a different Internet than I have.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#701 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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The pedophile can't help it either. The sociopath also. Consent is irrelevant.
Consent for a legal contract is irrelevant. Fascinating. Please tell us which law school you graduated from.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#702 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
"WASHINGTON, D.C., August 18, 2011 - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has estimated that practicing homosexual men account for 61% of the new HIV infections in the United States while they only amount to about 2% of the country’s population.
Earlier this month, the CDC released estimates for HIV infections from 2006-2009 showing that new infections remained stable at around 50,000 for each of the four years.
Homosexual men (men who have sex with men) accounted for 29,300 of the estimated 48,100 new infections in 2009, and homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases.
The only group in which new HIV infections is increasing, they say, is young homosexual men – driven by an alarming increase in infections from African Americans. They estimated that the new infections among young black homosexual men increased 48 percent in the period of 2006-2009 (from 4,400 HIV infections in 2006 to 6,500 infections in 2009).
The study also revealed that almost 20% of homosexual men have HIV, while nearly half of those who do are unaware of it."
www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-M ...
Draw a conclusion: "there are statistical risks in gay men sexual activity, therefore...."This is important Babe, because as I have been pointing out all along, there is no philosophical consistency in your application of any moral judgement or umbrage or call for penalty to equivalents. Until which time you do so, you're just operating out of a misguided and ignorant agenda that's more interested in the convenience of an outlook rather than the validity of it. Insurace premiums? Demonstrate a casity link to show that insured gay men have been a stistically significant factor in the cost of your monthly premiums and while your at it explain to me why you aren't seeking the denial of rights or some of penalizing fat- a$$ed married couples bringing their fat-a$$ed kids nightly to McDonalds to stuff their faceed with Big Macs, fries and shakes which is a more pervasive problem and has more of an impact on your health care costs that anything gay men do.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#703 Jan 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
"WASHINGTON, D.C., August 18, 2011 - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has estimated that practicing homosexual men account for 61% of the new HIV infections in the United States while they only amount to about 2% of the country’s population.
Earlier this month, the CDC released estimates for HIV infections from 2006-2009 showing that new infections remained stable at around 50,000 for each of the four years.
Homosexual men (men who have sex with men) accounted for 29,300 of the estimated 48,100 new infections in 2009, and homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases.
The only group in which new HIV infections is increasing, they say, is young homosexual men – driven by an alarming increase in infections from African Americans. They estimated that the new infections among young black homosexual men increased 48 percent in the period of 2006-2009 (from 4,400 HIV infections in 2006 to 6,500 infections in 2009).
The study also revealed that almost 20% of homosexual men have HIV, while nearly half of those who do are unaware of it."
www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-M ...
Thank you for proving all your previous posts wrong. Clearly the vast majority of gay men do not have HIV.

I'm glad we could clear that up, and you can stop making stuff up now.

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