Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 Full story: news.yahoo.com 16,105

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6640 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
... be....
pure Balogna.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6641 Feb 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Ooooo, that will send the fundies into a frenzy......lol!!!
LMAO.. oh yes it will!

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#6644 Feb 17, 2013
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO.. oh yes it will!
:-)

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6645 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
blah blah blah..
Source:
MATERNAL & EARLY ENVIRONMENTAL INFLUENCES ON

EMOTIONAL, SEXUAL, AND NEUROLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT Part II
by Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D.
Reprinted from Neuropsychiatry, Neuropsychology,
Clinical Neuroscience, 3rd Edition
(University Press),

By Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D.

yeah its easy to find out where you plagiarize this stuff.. if you were to actually READ the ENTIRE article, it describes YOU to a tee!

You're GAY! Viola! thats what the article says about those just like you! You are GAY! and you hate yourself! read it! the ENTIRE thing!
Granpastur

Pekin, IL

#6646 Feb 17, 2013
Homosexual 'marriage' isn't what divides churches. It is the choice of whether to follow the Bible or not. Grantd, the Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of termns.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#6647 Feb 17, 2013
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>
Source:
MATERNAL & EARLY ENVIRONMENTAL INFLUENCES ON
EMOTIONAL, SEXUAL, AND NEUROLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT Part II
by Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D.
Reprinted from Neuropsychiatry, Neuropsychology,
Clinical Neuroscience, 3rd Edition
(University Press),
By Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D.
yeah its easy to find out where you plagiarize this stuff.. if you were to actually READ the ENTIRE article, it describes YOU to a tee!
You're GAY! Viola! thats what the article says about those just like you! You are GAY! and you hate yourself! read it! the ENTIRE thing!
Great find...great insight.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6648 Feb 17, 2013
Granpastur wrote:
Homosexual 'marriage' isn't what divides churches. It is the choice of whether to follow the Bible or not. Grantd, the Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of termns.
Dave.. quit posting or I'll call the cops.. I DO have your number ya know!

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6649 Feb 17, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
Great find...great insight.
LMAO I didnt find it.. doc did.. he just isnt honest enough NOT to 'cherry pick'' and hes dumb enough to miss the parts that he didnt read that nail him to a cross.

google is your friend!(dont tell doc he aint smart enough to figure that out!)
suckatash

San Diego, CA

#6650 Feb 17, 2013
Sir Doctor wrote:
<quoted text> All gays are pedophiles, some just try to hide it. Chickens and Chicken Hawks. Harry Hay and Harvey Milks. Pedos and mental illness.
You'd have to be gay to know that..You're no longer in the closet bubba..You and some some priests in the Catholic Church that got caught...
NARTH SHISHKOFF

Santa Cruz, CA

#6653 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
<quoted text>This is funny and typical gay lies. Your links says that the very people who try change gays say it is not a choce. Odd.
Dr. Spitzer said that homosexuality is fluid and NARTH has done more research on changing homosexuality and they say no such thing.
But, since your claim is that folks in NARTH are making these claims, left address your lies.
National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH)
Position: Con to the question "Is sexual orientation determined at birth?"
Reasoning:
"NARTH agrees with the American Psychological Association that 'biological, psychological and social factors' shape sexual identity at an early age for most people.
But the difference is one of emphasis. We place more emphasis on the psychological (family, peer and social) influences, while the American Psychological Association emphasizes biological influences--and has shown no interest in (indeed, a hostility toward) investigating those same psychological and social influences.
There is no such thing as a 'gay gene' and there is no evidence to support the idea that homosexuality is genetic or unchangeable.
Numerous examples exist of people who have successfully modified their sexual behavior, identity, and arousal or fantasies."
LMAO

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6655 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
<quoted text>Is that all you got bubb? I mean really. Plagarized, with references, wow?
Maternal and sexual, well let us see, your wife left for another woman and left your daughter with you and without a woman, so she was repulsed by you and now seeks a mommy in lesbian bars. Yet, you claim that describes me and admit that this mental sexual behavioral destruction causes people to be gay.
Careful, GS is right, you hate gays because your daughter is gay and your wife left for a lesbian.
Gee, bubb, sucks to be you.
LMAO.. I find it amusing that you didnt deny not reading it in its ENTIRETY.. ya got busted, gay boy.. busted!
You are what you hate so much.. proven by your OWN source material!

LMAO.. what a dunce! Come out already, im sure there's a guy for you somewhere within GoProud.. they all are self loathers.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6657 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, I read the entire article which explains how the absense of your daughter's mom made her a lesbian. Sorry, bud, I know how to google and even find your posts on the Thou Shalt not Murder and Kill thread. Was it funny is that you think that something so basic is something of substance.
Here:
http://brainmind.com/Amygdala44.html
Among primates and mammals, bilateral destruction of the amygdala significantly disturbs the ability to determine and identify the motivational and emotional significance of externally occuring events, to discern social-emotional nuances conveyed by others, or to select what behavior is appropriate given a specific social context (Bunnel, 1966; Fuller et al. 1957; Gloor, 1960; Kling & Brothers 1992; Kluver & Bucy, 1939; Lilly et al., 1983; Marlowe et al., 1975; Scott et al., 1997; Terzian & Ore, 1955; Weiskrantz, 1956). Bilateral lesions lower responsiveness to aversive and social stimuli, reduce aggressiveness, fearfullness, competitiveness, dominance, and social interest (Rosvold et al. 1954). This condition is so pervasive that subjects have tremendous diffficulty discerning the meaning or recognizing the significance of even common objects -- a condition sometimes referred to as "psychic blindness", or, the "Kluver-Bucy syndrome" (Lilly et al., 1983; Marlowe et al., 1975; Terzian & Ore, 1955).
Thus, animals with bilateral amygdaloid destruction, although able to see and interact with their environment, may respond in an emotionally blunted manner, and seem unable to recognize what they see, feel, and experience. Things seem stripped of meaning. Like an infant (who similarly is without a fully functional amygdala), individuals with this condition engage in extreme orality and will indiscriminantly pick up various objects and place them in their mouth regardless of its appropriateness. There is a repetitive quality to this behavior, for once they put it down they seem to have forgotten that they had just explored it, and will immediately pick it up and place it again in their mouth as if it were a completely unfamiliar object.
No no no dunce.. post the section on homophobia! Hurry now! You dont want those available GOP gay guys to get away.. GoProud has alot of self loathers!

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#6659 Feb 17, 2013
GodSmacked wrote:
<quoted text>
It is so nice to see you posting. I hope all is well with you.
Thanks. I have a couple of moderated sites I like where the irrational hate trolls are not allowed, and only civil discussions take place. Most reasonable people however, don't persist in promoting false and irrational excuses once the fallacy has been demonstrated. So, I'm back to toxic topix.
NARTH SHISHKOFF

Santa Cruz, CA

#6660 Feb 17, 2013
Granpastur wrote:
Homosexual 'marriage' isn't what divides churches. It is the choice of whether to follow the Bible or not. Grantd, the Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of termns.
Who cares? The Bible is crap bro.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6663 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
<quoted text>Here Troth. Your wife was gay.
Post the HOMOPHOBIA section.. c'mon you can do it!

LMAO pathetic idiocy on display here by you!

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#6665 Feb 17, 2013
NARTH is really a religious based group posing as a secular scientific organization. They promote harmful "conversion therapy" complete with electric shock and emetics. One of their top leaders was recently caught with a "rent boy" and resigned. Other past leaders of "conversion therapy" have later denounced it as abusive and harmful, often leading to self destructive behavior including suicide when the client realizes they cannot change their same sex attractions. "Conversion therapy" relies heavily on religious shame and guilt to suppress behavior.

“We, as citizens, need to articulate God’s intent for human sexuality,” Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, President of NARTH, said in CNN’ 360 Degrees with Anderson Cooper, April 14, 2007. At the Feb. 10, 2007 Love Won Out conference in Phoenix, the “secular” therapist told the audience,“When we live our God-given integrity and our human dignity, there is no space for sex with a guy.” http://www.truthwinsout.org/narth/

“For over three decades the consensus of the mental health community has been that homosexuality is not an illness and therefore not in need of a cure. The APA’s concern about the positions espoused by NARTH and so-called conversation therapy is that they are not supported by the science. There is simply no sufficiently scientifically sound evidence that sexual orientation can be changed. Our further concern is that the positions espoused by NARTH and Focus on the Family create an environment in which prejudice and discrimination can flourish.” 8-11-06 APA (from http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2006/08/apa-rele... )

Insufficient evidence to support sexual orientation change efforts : Mental health professionals should avoid telling clients they can change their sexual orientation through therapy or other treatments, according to a resolution adopted by the APA's Council of Representatives on Aug. 5 during APA's 2009 Annual Convention.The resolution was based on the recommendation of the APA Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation, which reviewed decades of research and found insufficient evidence that such treatments work.(October 2009) http://search.apa.org/search...

The American Psychological Association and the Royal College of Psychiatrists expressed concerns that the positions espoused by NARTH are not supported by the science and create an environment in which prejudice and discrimination can flourish.[38][40](Wiki)

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#6667 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
<quoted text>Let me help you gay dad, who made his child gay. Yes, I read it in its entirety and I also know that they said that you made your daughter gay.
Look at you, you post gay boy, like it is bad. Well, it is bad and you are gay and made your daughter gay.
Why did her mom come out and be gay? Was it your girl size weenie, you know, no bigger than a clit. HAHA, no wonder your duaghter rejected it for lesbians. Now, you hate lesbians, your daughter and gays.
Now, go stalk a dead gay or transgender person, freak.
False stereotype. A certain number of people are homosexual regardless of the orientation of the parents.

False inferences. You have no knowledge of such things.

Ad hominem statements.

BIG FAIL

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#6668 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you post the section. It will explain your self hatred and why you hate your daughter for being gay and her mom for leaving you for a gay. You don't want those abailable public bath house guys to get away. The smellier the better.
Poor Troth, he is freaking out again and you have no Native to attack. Whiny freak, now keep your butt away from your daughter. her mom hates you and prefers females.
ROTFLMAO..... another pack of trollish lies. GTFOH

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#6669 Feb 17, 2013
"George Rekers is a major anti-gay figure that has worked against equality and tried to "cure" LGBT people for more than thirty years. A former University of South Carolina professor, Rekers is a founder of the Family Research Council, a former board member of the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH), and he testified as an expert witness in favor of gay adoption bans in both Arkansas and Florida. In both states, the courts deemed Reker’s testimony biased and untrustworthy.

Rekers has also published several anti-gay books, including, "Shaping Your Child's Sexual Identity" and "Growing Up Straight: What Every Family Should Know About Homosexuality."

In May, reporters Penn Bullock and Brandon K. Thorp of the Miami New Times discovered that Rekers took a male escort that he met on Rentboy.com to Europe. According to the escort, Rekers "likes younger guys to hang out with."

At first, Rekers said he only hired the young man to "lift his luggage". However, after people doubted his story, Rekers changed his tune, claiming he was only trying to convert sinners to Christianity." http://liftmyluggage.org/about-reckers.html
Virgin Firstfruit

Alpharetta, GA

#6671 Feb 17, 2013
Granpastur wrote:
Homosexual 'marriage' isn't what divides churches. It is the choice of whether to follow the Bible or not. Grantd, the Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of termns.
Not mine

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