Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 Full story: news.yahoo.com 16,105

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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Sir Doctor

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#6615 Feb 17, 2013
Virgin First Fruit wrote:
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Address your complaint to King James:
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Revelation 14;4> "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."
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This says nothing about gays. There is no such thing as a gay virgin, all your butts have been defiled and defiled often.

They mean men like priests, you know the ones who wer not gay pedophiles.

So, go address your lies at the next NAMBLA meeting and ask them for a refund.

While you are in King James, you address you homoness wit God there.

Leviticus 20:13 man shall not lie with womankind as with mankind, this is an abomination and the to shall be put to death.

If you wish to make the temple lie argument, then do it here.

Leviticus 18; wherein incest is a sin and so is bestiality.

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#6616 Feb 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Ooooo, that will send the fundies into a frenzy......lol!!!
They just dismiss it since the founding fathers arbitrarily decided not to include it in the Bible.

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#6617 Feb 17, 2013
Sir Doctor wrote:
<quoted text>You are right. All gays ar pedophiles, which is why you want to join the Boy's Scouts of America and the Girl's.
wtf?
Sir Doctor

Anonymous Proxy

#6618 Feb 17, 2013
John from Texas wrote:
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What's up Doc?
How did you get to be such a dipshitbrain less than human bonehead?
Well, we know that your dad made you gay and suicidal. But, that is no excuse for you trying to bone your dog. Try rats. Freak. HAHAHAHA......Do better. You're weak and gay to bat.

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#6619 Feb 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Ooooo, that will send the fundies into a frenzy......lol!!!
Looks like you were right. Sir Doctor went nuts. Lmao

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#6620 Feb 17, 2013
Sir Doctor wrote:
<quoted text>This says nothing about gays. There is no such thing as a gay virgin, all your butts have been defiled and defiled often.
They mean men like priests, you know the ones who wer not gay pedophiles.
So, go address your lies at the next NAMBLA meeting and ask them for a refund.
While you are in King James, you address you homoness wit God there.
Leviticus 20:13 man shall not lie with womankind as with mankind, this is an abomination and the to shall be put to death.
If you wish to make the temple lie argument, then do it here.
Leviticus 18; wherein incest is a sin and so is bestiality.
In Roman Paul says none of that applies. How can you reconcile this?
Sir Doctor

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#6621 Feb 17, 2013
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>Tony.. and ALL others who dont know who the "nov 12" sock idiot is read:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
But, Troth anyone who defends you is filth and vile. You are the maggot filth who posted a poster's obituary photo and mocked it while the poster was grieving. You did this because she exposed that you had made your daughter a lesbian after her mom left you for a woman.
Sir Doctor

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#6622 Feb 17, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Looks like you were right. Sir Doctor went nuts. Lmao
Only luLu Ford, count your stars suicide is a gay thing and you survived a nothing night. Now, get off that puppies nuts. HAHAHAHA....the best thing about you gay is that you starve for attention, so you even come here to get smcked with truth.

All gays are pedophiles, some just try to hide it. Chickens and Chicken Hawks. Harry Hay and Harvey Milks. Pedos and mental illness.

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#6623 Feb 17, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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Well then sugar; today is your lucky day!
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You have just discovered one:
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I'm a borngay mammal
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-54_DrYDb1b4/TjwBKaj...
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What sexual orientation were 'you' born with?
YOu remember that from day 1?

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#6624 Feb 17, 2013
Sir Doctor wrote:
<quoted text>Only luLu Ford, count your stars suicide is a gay thing and you survived a nothing night. Now, get off that puppies nuts. HAHAHAHA....the best thing about you gay is that you starve for attention, so you even come here to get smcked with truth.
All gays are pedophiles, some just try to hide it. Chickens and Chicken Hawks. Harry Hay and Harvey Milks. Pedos and mental illness.
Yea sure, you can always go shoot yourself closet queen.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#6625 Feb 17, 2013
Neil Andblowme wrote:
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Nice spin, good laugh. Without the human sacrifice, there would be no christianity. Period.
It was a sacrifice of a specific persons life, that is true. He knew he had to sacrifice his life for others that is true. But the 'human sacrifice' angle comes from just one of two perspectives. And when it happened, most didn't see the death of a guy named Jesus from Nazareth as a human sacrifice any more than they viewed the deaths of the two other men as human sacrifices.
So the spin is on the few, not the most :)

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#6629 Feb 17, 2013
"No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder."

http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientati...

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#6630 Feb 17, 2013
Ironically, much of the research showing orientation is not a choice, comes from failed efforts to change it. Not only have such efforts to change orientation been shown to be not successful, they are often harmful to the point of self destructive behavior including suicide.

"Contrary to claims of sexual orientation change advocates and practitioners, there is insufficient evidence to support the use of psychological interventions to change sexual orientation," said Judith M. Glassgold, PsyD, chair of the task force. "Scientifically rigorous older studies in this area found that sexual orientation was unlikely to change due to efforts designed for this purpose. Contrary to the claims of SOCE practitioners and advocates, recent research studies do not provide evidence of sexual orientation change as the research methods are inadequate to determine the effectiveness of these interventions." Glassgold added: "At most, certain studies suggested that some individuals learned how to ignore or not act on their homosexual attractions. Yet, these studies did not indicate for whom this was possible, how long it lasted or its long-term mental health effects. Also, this result was much less likely to be true for people who started out only attracted to people of the same sex."

Based on this review, the task force recommended that mental health professionals avoid misrepresenting the efficacy of sexual orientation change efforts when providing assistance to people distressed about their own or others' sexual orientation.

Insufficient Evidence that Sexual Orientation Change Efforts Work, Says [American Psychological Association]

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#6631 Feb 17, 2013
"The idea that homosexuality is a mental disorder or that the emergence of same-sex attraction and orientation among some adolescents is in any way abnormal or mentally unhealthy has no support among any mainstream health and mental health professional organizations.

Despite the general consensus of major medical, health, and mental health professions that both heterosexuality and homosexuality are normal expressions of human sexuality, efforts to change sexual orientation through therapy have been adopted by some political and religious organizations and aggressively promoted to the public. However, such efforts have serious potential to harm young people because they present the view that the sexual orientation of lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth is a mental illness or disorder, and they often frame the inability to change one’s sexual orientation as a personal and moral failure.

Because of the aggressive promotion of efforts to change sexual orientation through therapy, a number of medical, health, and mental health professional organizations have issued public statements about the dangers of this approach. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of Social Workers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured.”

The American Academy of Pediatrics advises youth that counseling may be helpful for you if you feel confused about your sexual identity. Avoid any treatments that claim to be able to change a person’s sexual orientation, or treatment ideas that see homosexuality as a sickness."

Just the Facts About Sexual Orientation and Youth [APP]

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#6632 Feb 17, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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It is so nice to see you posting. I hope all is well with you.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6633 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
<quoted text>In reality,gay boy, closet queens don't shoot themselves. You openly gay male freaks do or simply get AIDS and die. Perhaps, you meant that for your dad or a gay priest. The likely sources of your gayness.
Hows about choking on it until no more air is supplied to your gills! doc.
LowellGuy

United States

#6634 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
<quoted text>I do not have to google it. I have the books, DSM,literature and papers. Obviously, it is you who does not even know what it means. You are now trying to argue "all", so you can focus on an exception. You confusion is a gay one, which is why you gays confuse same sex behavior in the animal kingdom with homosexual sexual orientation. The latter does not exist, but is a made up term by gays to try to distinguish themselves. The APA trumpeted the gay gene lie for years, but now that all evidence is that it is socialized and environmentaly influenced by virtue of abuse and parental neglect,the APA now digresses and says that they have no conclusive evidence regarding the origins of homosexuality. Theysay this after already stating that the primary causes of homosexuality are socializaton and environmental, which means that they are conditional behavioral responses to things like childhood abvuse, no male model figure, feminized boys, etc. DISAGREE. Post a link.
You're the one who first said the cause of homosexuality is bilateral destruction of the amygdala. If you say that's THE cause, then you're saying it's the cause of all homosexuality. Your words, your argument. If you didn't mean what you said, you should have said something different. Here I am, perhaps foolishly, thinking that I can trust you to know what your words mean. Now i know better. From now on, at your urging, i will begin with the assumption that you have absolutely no idea what you're saying. Thanks for clearing that up.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6635 Feb 17, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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You're the one who first said the cause of homosexuality is bilateral destruction of the amygdala. If you say that's THE cause, then you're saying it's the cause of all homosexuality. Your words, your argument. If you didn't mean what you said, you should have said something different. Here I am, perhaps foolishly, thinking that I can trust you to know what your words mean. Now i know better. From now on, at your urging, i will begin with the assumption that you have absolutely no idea what you're saying. Thanks for clearing that up.
No 'assumption' just fact. He/she aint got a clue as to what he/she screeches about.
Sir Doctor

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#6636 Feb 17, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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You're the one who first said the cause of homosexuality is bilateral destruction of the amygdala. If you say that's THE cause, then you're saying it's the cause of all homosexuality. Your words, your argument. If you didn't mean what you said, you should have said something different. Here I am, perhaps foolishly, thinking that I can trust you to know what your words mean. Now i know better. From now on, at your urging, i will begin with the assumption that you have absolutely no idea what you're saying. Thanks for clearing that up.
It may have been his words, but it is you who are arguing against it. It is up to you to provide the links to the contrary. In fact, it appears that you do not know the meaning of the words and terms. In this case, the bilateral destruction of the amygdala is also the source and cause of many boundary issues. I see you here back pedaling and it is because you are way over your head.

You hver simply proven that you are foolish and despie what evidence you receive, you will go the route of gay suicie and AIDS and pretend that some bully in Saudi Arabia pushed you to it.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#6638 Feb 17, 2013
Tims Shield wrote:
There is no such thing as a 'gay gene' and there is no evidence to support the idea that homosexuality is genetic or unchangeable.
Numerous examples exist of people who have successfully modified their sexual behavior, identity, and arousal or fantasies."
Psycho babble and bull manure and you know it.

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