Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 Full story: news.yahoo.com 16,103

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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#6094 Feb 14, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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The blood of Jesus dried up into dust at the same time the rest of his body did.
Actually, he lived for about 7 weeks after his crucifixion. The Roman's spear (ironically) saved his life.

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#6095 Feb 14, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Found a Jewish site you might like. It speaks of the temple and history relating to it including prophecies.
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http://www.templeinstitute.org/messiah_temple...
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They even had some info about that Bar Cochba you mentioned.
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The Definition of Messiah in Halacha (Authentic Jewish Law)
Shortly after the destruction of the Second Temple, the Jewish warrior Bar Cochba led a short-lived rebellion against the Roman occupation of the Land of Israel (80-83 CE). Maimonides describes Bar Cochba as "a great king whom all of Israel, including the great sages, were convinced was the messiah" (Hilchot Ta'aniot Ch. 5, Hilchot Melachim Ch. 11). In fact, one of the reasons that the solemn fast of Tisha B'Av (the ninth of Av) was instituted - in addition to the destruction of the Holy Temple - was to commemorate Bar Cochba's downfall.
This is crucial to a proper understanding of the role of the messiah. From Maimonides' words, we understand that Bar Cochba's attempt to restore the kingdom to Israel and return the nation to its land is clearly defined by Jewish law as a messianic manifestation. Thus a fast was decreed for all generations to mourn the failure of this process. In other words, the attempts of Bar Cochba had messianic potential.
Similarly, the prophet Zechariah indicates that it is proper to rejoice over any messianic manifestation, even if it only exists on a small scale, or in potential.
"Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion;
shout, O daughter of Jerusalem;
behold, your king comes to you...
humble, and riding upon an ass."
That's a pretty far right sect of fanatics you've gotten yourself onto there.

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#6097 Feb 14, 2013
The people of Kashmir say Jesus went there and died in His 80's. Jews and Moslems have been worshipping at His burial place for centuries.

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#6099 Feb 14, 2013
His-truth wrote:
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ain't in my Bible
Cuz one of the guys you foller didn't know about it at the time they was collecting and arranging your anthology of greatest hits not to be sold in any stores.

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#6100 Feb 14, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
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QUOTE FROM LINK:
"The great Bible teacher, M.R. DeHaan, M.D., has it 100% correct when he states concerning the blood of Jesus...
The blood was to be sprinkled, remember, on the mercy seat right after the death of the substitutionary animal of sacrifice, Now Christ is, of course, our substitute. He was slain for us upon the Cross, and entered into death for us, and when He arose, He immediately went to heaven, entered into the holy of holies in heaven, sprinkled His precious blood upon the mercy seat before the throne of God, and forever settled the sin questions, and delivered us from the curse of the law. This is clearly taught in the New testament. Hebrews 9:12 is very definite on this:
"But by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer%27s%2...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atonement_in_Chr...

That's just the Westerners. The Eastern sects of "christendom" have their own variations.

It's all heresy.

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#6101 Feb 14, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
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Are you really that idiotic? Please tell me you trolls are deliberately acting this moronic for *giggles* or whatever reason you like to make fools out of yourselves. I find it hard to believe that anyone above a Kindergarten education would be so asinine.
The obvious forgery of the "gospel according to Peter" is quite different than the Holy Bible's 2 epistles of Peter.
"forgery"?

Like these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_th...

More accurately, they are "pseudepigraphic".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudepigraphic

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#6102 Feb 14, 2013
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No, all I had to see was,"The great Bible teacher, M.R. DeHaan, M.D." and I burst out laughing.
He was a very ear-tickling busy little bee for a number of years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_De_Haan

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#6103 Feb 14, 2013
tickedoffchic wrote:
The people of Kashmir say Jesus went there and died in His 80's. Jews and Moslems have been worshipping at His burial place for centuries.
Do some research, fundies. You may just LEARN something. LOL!

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#6104 Feb 14, 2013
snyper, you are really getting desperate to have link to those links, lol.

Don't you unbelievers have any thoughts of your own? That you have to resort to the same old completely debunked nonsensical theories over and over.

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#6105 Feb 14, 2013
tickedoffchic wrote:
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Do some research, fundies. You may just LEARN something. LOL!
Making up asinine lies is now considered research?

“the end-times is now”

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#6106 Feb 14, 2013
The people of Kashmir say ....

well .. that's what ya get for listening to them "some people" in kashmir .. good grief

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#6107 Feb 14, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
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Making up asinine lies is now considered research?
Check out the BBC, moron.

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#6109 Feb 14, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
snyper, you are really getting desperate to have link to those links, lol.
Don't you unbelievers have any thoughts of your own? That you have to resort to the same old completely debunked nonsensical theories over and over.
Your theories have been debunked about 200 years ago, by Jewish and Christian scholars. LOL!

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#6110 Feb 14, 2013
His-truth wrote:
The people of Kashmir say ....
well .. that's what ya get for listening to them "some people" in kashmir .. good grief
And listening to you somehow is different? LMAO.. Gawd the hypocrisy of you bible nuts is 'awe' some! Such extreme blinding arrogant hypocrisy.

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#6111 Feb 14, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Well there are lists. And they vary in content. They vary because not everyone agrees what was a prophecy and what wasn't concerning the Messiah.
Example: Christians claim to list forty and more prophecies that dealt with the coming of Jesus as the Messiah. But Jews aren't so concerned about the prophecies themselves. The Jews are looking for a Jew that will by some miracle rebuild the temple where a Muslim Mosque stands. And that will be a miracle of itself. As is evident Muslims aren't turning that piece of land over to the Jews without a fight. And Muslims will probably come from the four corners to be part of that fight.
That's my point. I want to know why there isn't just one list that everybody knows is the list of prophecies concerning the Messiah.

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#6112 Feb 14, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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I read the NT. Try it.
I've read it.
What about all those Saturday workers?
Why not go warn them?

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#6113 Feb 14, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
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Making up asinine lies is now considered research?
You're a hateful fundie who refuses to believe the history of your own religion. You have no right to make judgements. WHO in the HELL are YOU? You're nothing but an ignorant fundie. Next!

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#6114 Feb 14, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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KJ can't save you from the eternal Hell.
Can you provide any evidence at all that hell exists?

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#6115 Feb 14, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Where Paul said "men with men" are "reprobate minds".
What did John, George and Ringo say?

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#6116 Feb 14, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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God's angels will soon cast you into the furnace of fire. There is no place to hide. They will find you.
Matthew 13:49-50 (NASB)
49 "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
50 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Any evidence either angels or hell exist?
Nah.
And why would you need teeth in hell? Do they have snacks? Well, if they do, it wouldn't be all that bad. Unless they only have broccoli with salt-free non-fat sour "cream" dip.

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