Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 | Posted by: SongBookz | Full story: news.yahoo.com

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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Sola Scriptura

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Wow, he thinks there's no evidence, really? Does he know that the birth of Mithras was celebrated on December 25th with gifts and trees before Christ was born?
I think Jesus deserves better than a leftover recycled holiday.
Gays aren' too bright and this bit of hubris you just posted proves it. This proves your ignorance.

http://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2011/01/15...

December 25 And Three Kings:

Christ Jesus been born on December 25 was an adopted date by the Catholic Church, ca. 300 years later after Christianity had already began. Lukes 2:8-12 Shepherds in the fields at night decreases the probability that the birth period of Christ Jesus was in winter(December). December 25 as the birth date of Jesus is not Biblical or Historical supported.

Three kings, There are not three kings , but magi(wise man from the East), to whom there number is unknown. It is not until Middle Ages that legend had it that they were Kings and Three in number(probably because of the three gift they offered Mary).

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Yes...monogomy is monogomy.
The issue is that so called same-sex "marriage" will be used to undermind the traditional notions of exclusivity and fidelity in marriage..
You and others on this board with all your open subversion of a basic concept, as well as the documented press reports and studies of the acceptance of open marriage amoung homosexuals simply prove the point.
Your problem here is the fact that it happens just as much in "traditional" marriages. They're called swingers

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The controversy over Isaiah 7:14 has been going on for some time. If you do a quick google search on the phrase "Isaiah 7:14 controversy" you will get 245,000 results.
Not everyone agrees that the scripture is a prophecy of a future event, a lot of people feel it refers to an already established event which would seem logical since it was written in the present tense. And not everyone agrees the scripture points towards a virgin birth.
The word translated as "virgin" in Isaiah 7:14 was the Hebrew word "almah". The Hebrew word "almah" is defined as "a nubile young woman". If the word "virgin" was intended by the original author the Hebrew word "betullah" would have been used.
This is not the only so-called prophecy that doesn't pan out on more careful examination. The list is quite extensive.
It is hard to let go of religious convictions that have been held for a long time but careful examination of the history of the Roman Catholic church will reveal it as the hoax that it is. And we all need to become aware of this hoax and what it has done to humanity.
But this does not diminish the validity of historical Christianity. In fact it makes Christianity much more logical and in keeping with current scientific research.
We can't say the same for the patriarchal hierarchical version of Christianity created by the Romans that is obviously an amalgamation of primitive pagan myths.
We all need to get informed as to the evil nature of the Roman hoax of Christianity and it's many derivatives that deny the Jewish GOD and the Jewish Jesus and get involved in restoring true Christianity based on the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest scientific findings concerning the nature of the Cosmos!
GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
This is how the Jews interpret it:
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinea...

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conceive, and bear a son,
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It's just that if you believe these bible stories are real and literal like Noah's flood, and Adam and Eve, and the Red Sea thing, I thought you folks might think the lake of fire is real too.
Maybe it's just a metaphor like the other stuff is.
Am I wrong on that?
Where do you get this New Age stuff anyway?
From your incorrect assertion that God is the universe and vice-versa. That is a prominent New Age belief.

Noahs flood is a true historic event already proven. Adam and Eve are two humans that began the Hebrew peoples. And yes, the Red Sea actually split open.

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Plenty of scientific evidence the flood happened. If you would take your head out of your ass you would know that.
http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-b...
It is pretty much accepted now except for fundie atheists like you who are scared to death the biblical God really does exist.
That's not evidence of THE flood. It's evidence of big floods. Scientists don't deny this.

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Your problem here is the fact that it happens just as much in "traditional" marriages. They're called swingers
"Swingers" is just another name for perverts. What kind of demented person wants to let/watch their spouse have sexual relations with another person? No wonder so many people are infested with STDs.

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My problem is that gays have no intention of being monogomous in their relationships and its a fact that averyone knows yet you are so insecure that you have to pretend that is not a well established fact.
Well, it's a KNOWN fact that heterosexuals aren't MONOGAMOUS in their marriages either......some commit adultery and some are into swinging or spouse swapping......but we don't prevent them from marrying, do we? Here's some links for ya to look at:
The allure of swinging isn’t so much sex with someone new but that “vibe in the air which adds to an encounter,” he says.“It's a feeling most people haven't had since they were 17 and trying to get to second base. You don't know how the night is going to end.”
http://www.youbeauty.com/relationships/swingi...

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Some research suggests that 2% of all married couples, mainly middle to upper class couples with children, have shared mates at least once during their marriage. The same source reported that in 1998 there were "about 3 million married, middle-aged, middle-class swingers," an increase of about 1 million since 1990.42 In 2000, the president of the North American Swing Club Association (NASCA) reported that his group had increased from 150 to 310 affiliates in the previous five years.43 NASCA reported in 2003 that there were about 400 swing clubs in the United States, most of which were open to couples only. As many as 4,000 have attended a popular, annual swingers convention and NASCA's mailing list consists of approximately 30,000 individuals and couples.42,44 One possible explanation for the continuing increase is that the Internet has replaced swingers' magazines as the principal means of locating interested participants.
http://www.dhra.mil/perserec/adr/sexualbehav/...

and another:
What was once considered wife swapping in the past, swinging has grown to include a wide range of sexual activities. Also known as the Lifestyle, it is a broad term that refers to engaging in varying degrees of non-monogamous sex.
http://www.adultsocials.com/faq/faq-swing.htm...

Seems you should be hoping mad about those pesky heterosexuals who screw up your argument!!!
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That's not evidence of THE flood. It's evidence of big floods. Scientists don't deny this.
Noah's flood WAS a big flood, idiot. Super-humongous floods have always happened. Why are you so arrogant to dismiss any of them as Noah's flood? Thank God idiots like you are becoming few and far between.

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To all you "Christian" hate filled creeps:

http://www.upworthy.com/dear-abbys-perfectly-...

....to Uganda, maybe? it sounds like you would all love it there.

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<quoted text>I would dare say if old Christopher Hitchens could have just 1 minute back here on earth......he would tell a very different story. At the moment of death Hitchens went to hell if he did not repent which is very unlikely he did. He was brave in his stand against God,he thought anyway. look at the shape he was in before his death...What soever a man sows that also will he reap. Hell is hot and there is no returning to get a second chance at Heaven. Live and death is set before you, choose this day who you will serve.
Mr. Hitchens was quite accepting of his disease, which he acknowledged he had earned from his lifestyle.
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Boy you sure have veered away from your original contention that gays wanted to and were just as monogomous as heterosexuals...all the way to "you guys cheat also!!"
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Some research suggests that 2% of all married couples, mainly middle to upper class couples with children, have shared mates at least once during their marriage.!!!
"New research at San Francisco State University reveals just how common open relationships are among gay men and lesbians in the Bay Area. The Gay Couples Study has followed 556 male couples for three years — about 50 percent of those surveyed have sex outside their relationships, with the knowledge and approval of their partners."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/29sfmetr...
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"New research at San Francisco State University reveals just how common open relationships are among gay men and lesbians in the Bay Area. The Gay Couples Study has followed 556 male couples for three years — about 50 percent of those surveyed have sex outside their relationships, with the knowledge and approval of their partners."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/29sfmetr...
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Your problem here is the fact that it happens just as much in "traditional" marriages. They're called swingers
"Just as much"!!! Ha... 2% versus 50%..

Do you really think heterosexual married couples will ever be as "open" in their marriages as homosexuals?? gay males??? Even their Divorce statistics are ten times that of hetero's and thats with the open marriages as a given..

You guys are always sticking your feet in your mouth in trying to defend this nonsense... Dont you know any gay people??

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<quoted text>Do you mean, to all you creeps filled with hate towards Christians and your own parents. Perhaps, you gays would love it best in Afghanistan or Kurkistan?
You are one of the ones this was directed to....and you idiots wonder why this country is becoming more secular by the minute. The KLAN uses the bible too, don't they?

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Gays will burn in Hell forever it the Bible is true.

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Gays will burn in Hell forever it the Bible is true.
And if YOU are gladdened by that horrible fate, you'll join them there.

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And if YOU are gladdened by that horrible fate, you'll join them there.
I'm not. That's why I warn Gays.

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"Swingers" is just another name for perverts. What kind of demented person wants to let/watch their spouse have sexual relations with another person? No wonder so many people are infested with STDs.
What kind of person thinks it's ok to dictate how people live their lives? Oh yeh, barbarians like you.

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Noah's flood WAS a big flood, idiot. Super-humongous floods have always happened. Why are you so arrogant to dismiss any of them as Noah's flood? Thank God idiots like you are becoming few and far between.
Why do I dismiss them? Because they aren't evidence of a global flood. Scientists don't deny that massive floods have occured throughout time. For fu&k sake, take some damn comprehension classes you whiskey tango cousin fu&ker.

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<quoted text>Are you kidding? Swinging is a fringe of marriages, just like homosexuality is perverse and fringe sex. Perhaps your abnormal life is caused a veil of confusion to descend upon your morality or lack thereof.
Are you able to post anything relevant to any conversation? I'm thinking no.

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Fitz wrote:
Boy you sure have veered away from your original contention that gays wanted to and were just as monogomous as heterosexuals...all the way to "you guys cheat also!!"
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"New research at San Francisco State University reveals just how common open relationships are among gay men and lesbians in the Bay Area. The Gay Couples Study has followed 556 male couples for three years — about 50 percent of those surveyed have sex outside their relationships, with the knowledge and approval of their partners."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/29sfmetr...
Actually, NO I haven't.......what I have always stated is that for the most part Gays and Lesbians can and are in monogamous relationships.....but when idiots like yourself make claims that somehow ONLY Gays(mostly) and Lesbians(not as much)are promiscuous and should be prevented from marrying because of their promiscuity.....I will show you that straights AREN'T as monogamous as you claim......by the way, the article you post clearly states that it is not a representation of the whole GLBTQI Community!!!

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