Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 Full story: news.yahoo.com 16,105

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#5202 Feb 10, 2013
Neil Andblowme wrote:
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-This Jew ain't back in Israel. In fact half the Jews on the planet don't live in Israel.
-And exactly what Hebrew prophecy says the messiah gets to come back from the dead to finish off his bucket list of prophecy fulfillment?
I failed to mention your so-called 64 prophecies that do point to Jesus, because they are mistranslations and taken out of context.
Not to mention self fulfilling.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#5203 Feb 10, 2013
Nettie Exposed wrote:
<quoted text>Eat them, do you mean like you gays eat butt feces which winds up in your intestines. Yuck.
No need to be careful, gay boy, I know more about what you hide than what you wish to share. Sorry about your issues, but this stuff is straight out of 2013 and that bothers you.
Idiot, the gay sex movement was simply a part of the 60s movement. It is just as much as part as the drug movement is and both are inherent. You gays simply trying to move yourselves away from your pedophilia issues and leadership, all the while being gay pedophiles.
So, gay child, when was NAMBLA ejected from the gay movement? Was it in 1994, when the IGLA was forced to due to an international $119 million grant issue or was it in 2012 when over 10 NAMBLA groups marched in Gay Ride parades????
Perhaps, it was when Harry Hay decided to denounce NAMBLA. Oh, never happened. Perhaps it was when Harvey Milks, Oscar Wilde, Obama, Gavin Newsome, etc, denounced NAMBLA. Oh, never happened.
Was it when 95% of the RCC gay priests were molesting children? No, never happened.
Perhaps, in 1994, the IGLA and NAMBLA split, but the gay pedophiles remained in the IGLA, including the gay pedophile president at the time.
Perhaps, it was when the IGLA adopted a different philosophy and opposed the ideas of NAMBLA. No, never happened.
Yet, here we are with gay pedophiles in our pre-schools and trying to get in the Boys and Girls Scouts and Obama saying that gay pedophiles deserve free and equal access to children.
Were you about to say something or were you interrupted by my foot being crammed down your throat? Gee bob.
Which parades were those, dearheart? Specifically.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#5205 Feb 10, 2013
Nettie Exposed wrote:
<quoted text>YOU'RE STUPID. Is it gay bestiality if it is approved of by both parties?
Did I post to you, you stupid cu-t?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#5206 Feb 10, 2013
Nettie Exposed wrote:
<quoted text>I in fact know lots of gay couples and many do not share your delusions. Also, to a person, they say that gays are far more promiscuous and the relationships are more violent and you cheat more.
You just spewed that promiscuity is slowed by fear of pregnancy. In fact, gay men are more promiscuous than lesbians. If gays were not so promiscuous and sexually deviant, they would be straight. Your post is like trying to compare non-drug users (straights) with drug addicts (gays). The use is the issue and the separation.
Lots of accusations there.

Calumny, really.

Care to support ANY of it?

“Only Biblical methods will”

Since: Apr 10

bring others to Christ

#5208 Feb 10, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Is it infidelity if it's approved of by both partners?
For medical and moral reasons I am a stout advocate of monogamy. It may not be called be infidelity in an open marriage, but I tend to believe it still has too many health risks to be considered a healthy choice. I am admittedly biased however.

Have a great week :).
Sola Scriptura

Dunbar, WV

#5209 Feb 10, 2013
snyper wrote:
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An account by one of Saul's gentile followers?
Please.
Another Paul basher. That makes you irrelevant right off the bat.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#5211 Feb 10, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Sorry, but I gave you the scripture proving you wrong. Whether you want to except it or not is up to you. But the prophecies are there. The Old Testament is anything but Greek scriptures. Isaiah was written at least a thousand years before Christ. Making up your own myths to try and dispel what you consider the myths of Christians today does not help your case.
"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7:14)
The controversy over Isaiah 7:14 has been going on for some time. If you do a quick google search on the phrase "Isaiah 7:14 controversy" you will get 245,000 results.

Not everyone agrees that the scripture is a prophecy of a future event, a lot of people feel it refers to an already established event which would seem logical since it was written in the present tense. And not everyone agrees the scripture points towards a virgin birth.

The word translated as "virgin" in Isaiah 7:14 was the Hebrew word "almah". The Hebrew word "almah" is defined as "a nubile young woman". If the word "virgin" was intended by the original author the Hebrew word "betullah" would have been used.

This is not the only so-called prophecy that doesn't pan out on more careful examination. The list is quite extensive.

It is hard to let go of religious convictions that have been held for a long time but careful examination of the history of the Roman Catholic church will reveal it as the hoax that it is. And we all need to become aware of this hoax and what it has done to humanity.

But this does not diminish the validity of historical Christianity. In fact it makes Christianity much more logical and in keeping with current scientific research.

We can't say the same for the patriarchal hierarchical version of Christianity created by the Romans that is obviously an amalgamation of primitive pagan myths.

We all need to get informed as to the evil nature of the Roman hoax of Christianity and it's many derivatives that deny the Jewish GOD and the Jewish Jesus and get involved in restoring true Christianity based on the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest scientific findings concerning the nature of the Cosmos!

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#5212 Feb 10, 2013
Seriously__ wrote:
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What I get from your data is that homosexual couples are more honest with each other than heterosexual couples since last I read 50-70% of heterosexual couples have affairs, but usually they are deceitful about it.
ALL infidelity is a poor moral and health choice IMO, but it is neither exclusive for heterosexual or homosexual couples. Seems that the percentage of couples engaging in infidelity is comparable.
Are you saying that you support same sex "marriage"? God established marriage as between a MAN and a WOMAN.

Did you just call infidelity a "poor moral and health choice"? It is SIN, cheating on a spouse is SIN, it is disgusting!
Sola Scriptura

Dunbar, WV

#5213 Feb 10, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Hallelujah! Prayers are answered.
<quoted text>
We were kind of worried about you. Where've you been? None of the fundies, as far as I know, cared whether you were alive or dead but the folks you so love to treat like dirt were rather concerned. Glad you're OK.
God bless you.
I treat you like dirt but you piss on fundies. Go bark up some other tree.
Fitz

Roseville, MI

#5214 Feb 10, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Since when is a British pundit a leader of the gay community. Pundits aren't leaders, child. lol
Again, your problem is with promiscuity.
You also seem to have a problem with how others elect to run their marriages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kn4-2qMErgMXX
Its enough just to debunk your point that homosexuals are somehow embracing actual monogomy..

I'm hardly going to run around and argue what constiitutes a "leader" in the "gay community"...(Micheal Savage?)

My problem is that gays have no intention of being monogomous in their relationships and its a fact that averyone knows yet you are so insecure that you have to pretend that is not a well established fact.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/29sfmetr...
Sola Scriptura

Dunbar, WV

#5215 Feb 10, 2013
Tony C wrote:
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That was improper use of the word "anymore."
No, it is not his job to interpret anything, since he has no standing to show he has the proper understanding of it. He has done nothing to qualify himself to mess with other peoples' souls, and he (or anyone who tries to do what he is doing) can cause harm to other people by telling them the wrong thing.
Would you want a lawyer who never passed the bar? Or is any random person good enough to keep you out of jail?
Next.
No, not next. You haven't proven anything but your own arrogance. He has proper understanding,,it is you who is the illiterate here.
Sola Scriptura

Dunbar, WV

#5216 Feb 10, 2013
Tony C wrote:
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Only to stupid people.
Then you should understand.
Sola Scriptura

Dunbar, WV

#5217 Feb 10, 2013
Tony C wrote:
<quoted text>
What is consistent among you fundies is your stupidity.
This is NOT ONLY in a Christian forum, it is also in a gay forum, among others. That is simple fact.
There is no "Christian viewpoint on homosexuality" because there are lots of Christians with different viewpoints on homosexuality.
Yours is incorrect, but that's no surprise. You carry yourself like these other pretenders and blasphemers, not in the way Jesus walked.
Work on your own soul. It's pretty black.
The simple fact is it is also in the Christian forum so you WILL get used to the fact that you will see that homosexuality, according to Jesus Christ, is an abomination. it is you who is in the darkness and will not let the Light shine in to your black soul.

Speculate and twist and quote from all the gay commentators you want, you are hellbound in your current state.

“Only Biblical methods will”

Since: Apr 10

bring others to Christ

#5218 Feb 10, 2013
Sola Scriptura wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you should understand.
Hey, glad to see ya. Hope all is well!

God bless you and yours.
Sola Scriptura

Dunbar, WV

#5219 Feb 10, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Sorry, but this thread is also in these other forums:
Gay/Lesbian, Religion, Wedding, Roman Catholic Church
You have the right to believe as you do.....but then SO DO OTHERS......don't like it......to DAMN BAD!!!
same back atcha.
Fitz

Roseville, MI

#5220 Feb 10, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Is it infidelity if it's approved of by both partners?
Yes...monogomy is monogomy.

The issue is that so called same-sex "marriage" will be used to undermind the traditional notions of exclusivity and fidelity in marriage..

You and others on this board with all your open subversion of a basic concept, as well as the documented press reports and studies of the acceptance of open marriage amoung homosexuals simply prove the point.
Sola Scriptura

Dunbar, WV

#5221 Feb 10, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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That's a pretty major leap from what I was thinking. You don't need to call it sin just because it's something you shouldn't do but there is advice in that book to help you minimize the shouldn't dos and maximize the should dos. If you think it's a bunch of superstitious mumbo jumbo you can dispense with the church, prayers and tithing.
"The Bible is infallible and historically accurate except for all that God stuff."
-- 15DL
So, today you are a catholic? Because YOU have called it a bunch of superstitious mumbo jumbo yourself.
Fitz

Roseville, MI

#5222 Feb 10, 2013
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
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The controversy over Isaiah 7:14 has been going on for some time. If you do a quick google search on the phrase "Isaiah 7:14 controversy" you will get 245,000 results.
Not everyone agrees that the scripture is a prophecy of a future event, a lot of people feel it refers to an already established event which would seem logical since it was written in the present tense. And not everyone agrees the scripture points towards a virgin birth.
The word translated as "virgin" in Isaiah 7:14 was the Hebrew word "almah". The Hebrew word "almah" is defined as "a nubile young woman". If the word "virgin" was intended by the original author the Hebrew word "betullah" would have been used.
This is not the only so-called prophecy that doesn't pan out on more careful examination. The list is quite extensive.
It is hard to let go of religious convictions that have been held for a long time but careful examination of the history of the Roman Catholic church will reveal it as the hoax that it is. And we all need to become aware of this hoax and what it has done to humanity.
But this does not diminish the validity of historical Christianity. In fact it makes Christianity much more logical and in keeping with current scientific research.
We can't say the same for the patriarchal hierarchical version of Christianity created by the Romans that is obviously an amalgamation of primitive pagan myths.
We all need to get informed as to the evil nature of the Roman hoax of Christianity and it's many derivatives that deny the Jewish GOD and the Jewish Jesus and get involved in restoring true Christianity based on the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest scientific findings concerning the nature of the Cosmos!
GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
I all ready exposed your B.S. "Roman mirtha" "god" once, and now your back with anothr cut and paste job... the old "whore of babylon" smear thats been floating around for decades in differnt forms.

Your a self proclaimed atheist who want to debunk a 2000 year old religion with more than a billion followers worldwide..

Good luck with that - and your translations from the movie snatch...why would a young nubile woman getting pregnant be a prophecy to begin with??? Seems like a rather everyday occurance.

B.S. like yours will never convince anyone because it is offered in the spirit of envey and deception and pride..
Sola Scriptura

Dunbar, WV

#5223 Feb 10, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not the absence of evidence that is the problem. It's the scientific evidence that proves it never happened. That's why they think science is a global conspiracy to make fundies look stupid.
Oops, I probably shouldn't have said that. Wayne's gonna go ballistic.
Plenty of scientific evidence the flood happened. If you would take your head out of your ass you would know that.

http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-b...

It is pretty much accepted now except for fundie atheists like you who are scared to death the biblical God really does exist.
Sola Scriptura

Dunbar, WV

#5224 Feb 10, 2013
Tony C wrote:
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Wow, he thinks there's no evidence, really? Does he know that the birth of Mithras was celebrated on December 25th with gifts and trees before Christ was born?
I think Jesus deserves better than a leftover recycled holiday.
Gays aren' too bright and this bit of hubris you just posted proves it. This proves your ignorance.

http://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2011/01/15...

December 25 And Three Kings:

Christ Jesus been born on December 25 was an adopted date by the Catholic Church, ca. 300 years later after Christianity had already began. Lukes 2:8-12 Shepherds in the fields at night decreases the probability that the birth period of Christ Jesus was in winter(December). December 25 as the birth date of Jesus is not Biblical or Historical supported.

Three kings, There are not three kings , but magi(wise man from the East), to whom there number is unknown. It is not until Middle Ages that legend had it that they were Kings and Three in number(probably because of the three gift they offered Mary).

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