Can hospital chains improve the medi...

Can hospital chains improve the medical industry?

There are 14 comments on the www.newyorker.com story from Aug 6, 2012, titled Can hospital chains improve the medical industry?. In it, www.newyorker.com reports that:

Restaurant chains have managed to combine quality control, cost control, and innovation. Can health care?

It was Saturday night, and I was at the local Cheesecake Factory with my two teen-age daughters and three of their friends.

You may know the chain: a hundred and sixty restaurants with a catalogue-like menu that, when I did a count, listed three hundred and eight dinner items (including the forty-nine on the “Skinnylicious” menu), plus a hundred and twenty-four choices of beverage.

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John Deere

Carol Stream, IL

#1 Aug 6, 2012
Dr. Bill_mr! www.ask.com/ ;)
can't afford tuition in NYcollege or what free Amen!;-0000
harvey

Columbus, OH

#2 Aug 6, 2012
Utterly insane. NO healthcare should be for-profit or corporate, these are why costs are so high NOW. Collusion between healthcorps, pharmacorps, and insurancecorps has driven our healthcare prices far, FAR above the rest of the world's.

End for-profit healthcare NOW!

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#3 Aug 6, 2012
harvey wrote:
Utterly insane. NO healthcare should be for-profit or corporate, these are why costs are so high NOW. Collusion between healthcorps, pharmacorps, and insurancecorps has driven our healthcare prices far, FAR above the rest of the world's.
End for-profit healthcare NOW!
Insane, but lucrative. Kind of like RN's on welfare while Health insurance executives jet off to the Riviera for the weekend.

This is where we live, Harvey.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#4 Aug 6, 2012
Imagining the Chain of Hospitals having the following menu choices:

Extra Value Treatment: Basic surgery, home within one hour for those without insurance.

Value Pack: Standard surgery, 24 hr. recovery, for those with insurance.

Super Sized Treatment: Laser surgery, private nurse, private room and individually chef prepared meals, for those with Premium Insurance.
Weed seeds

San Jose, CA

#5 Aug 6, 2012
If there are more hospitals the service will be better and cheaper because of competition.
Bringmedinner

San Jose, CA

#6 Aug 7, 2012
Obamacare has already forced many hospitals to cut back on staff and services in preparation for the controls. Many doctors are talking of finding a different profession. We've had the most advanced, generous, universally accessible health care in the world. Socialists think their track record of diminished health care in Cuba, England and the old Soviet doesn't speak louder than their fake and misplaced compassions.
Bringmedinner

San Jose, CA

#7 Aug 7, 2012
The world history of Communist Socialist ideals is to first destroy concepts of charity and faith in a culture, then put government controls on society to accommodate their destructions. It's called tyranny.
harvey

Columbus, OH

#8 Aug 7, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Insane, but lucrative. Kind of like RN's on welfare while Health insurance executives jet off to the Riviera for the weekend.
This is where we live, Harvey.
True dat, Mr. B. Doctors and those at the upper end of the healthcare system have ALWAYS opposed change, and always will.
harvey

Columbus, OH

#9 Aug 7, 2012
Bringmedogbone wrote:
The world history of Communist Socialist ideals is to first destroy concepts of charity and faith in a culture, then put government controls on society to accommodate their destructions. It's called tyranny.
No, it's called "gibberish." Which is about all you ever post.
harvey

Columbus, OH

#10 Aug 7, 2012
Bringmedinner wrote:
Obamacare has already forced many hospitals to cut back on staff and services in preparation for the controls. Many doctors are talking of finding a different profession. We've had the most advanced, generous, universally accessible health care in the world. Socialists think their track record of diminished health care in Cuba, England and the old Soviet doesn't speak louder than their fake and misplaced compassions.
I'm calling you a liar unless you can offer proof that ANY of these absurd allegations are true.

Obamacare, lame though it is, is basically just some insurance regulations, and a requirement that people buy healthcare FROM PRIVATE INSURANCE. Clearly you're too stupid even to understand that.
harvey

Columbus, OH

#11 Aug 7, 2012
Eleanor wrote:
Imagining the Chain of Hospitals having the following menu choices:
Extra Value Treatment: Basic surgery, home within one hour for those without insurance.
Value Pack: Standard surgery, 24 hr. recovery, for those with insurance.
Super Sized Treatment: Laser surgery, private nurse, private room and individually chef prepared meals, for those with Premium Insurance.
But you'd have FREE CHOICE! You'd have FREEDOM to be given substandard care IF YOU WANTED IT! It'd be AMERRRRRICANN!

LOL...
harvey

Columbus, OH

#12 Aug 7, 2012
Weed seeds wrote:
If there are more hospitals the service will be better and cheaper because of competition.
Health care should NEVER be about "competition."
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#13 Aug 7, 2012
Ah, the good old days when people only received treatment when they could pay for it.

And doctors came to your house.

And you could go to the barber shop for a good blood-letting or some leech treatments <LOL>.

When babies were born at home.

And the STRONGEST GENES survived.

Now we have a serious difficient gene pool. Way too many sick people, dependent upon pharmaceuticals EVERY DAY of their lives.

And bleeding heart liberals claiming healthcare is a 'right'.

And citizens dip into what little wealth they have to provide funding to 'FOR PROFIT' insurance companies, so that they too can get the best 'formulary only' medication and pay co-pays and deductibles and HOPE that those doctors who 'practice'(yes practice) medicine can keep EVERYBODY ALIVE for just one more day.

<for the right price>
harvey

Columbus, OH

#14 Aug 7, 2012
Eleanor wrote:
Ah, the good old days when people only received treatment when they could pay for it.
And doctors came to your house.
And you could go to the barber shop for a good blood-letting or some leech treatments <LOL>.
When babies were born at home.
And the STRONGEST GENES survived.
Now we have a serious difficient gene pool. Way too many sick people, dependent upon pharmaceuticals EVERY DAY of their lives.
And bleeding heart liberals claiming healthcare is a 'right'.
And citizens dip into what little wealth they have to provide funding to 'FOR PROFIT' insurance companies, so that they too can get the best 'formulary only' medication and pay co-pays and deductibles and HOPE that those doctors who 'practice'(yes practice) medicine can keep EVERYBODY ALIVE for just one more day.
<for the right price>
Health care is certainly a right. Unless you're claiming that no one has a right to health, life, treatment for illness, hospital care, etc? If it's not a "right," then WTF IS it? Is it OK with you if people are DENIED those things?

Sure medicine was once a lot cheaper. It was also a lot lower in quality, with far fewer meds, treatments, far less technology, far less ability to save your life. People died of things like dystentery, simple infections, the flu, etc.

Point is not to be a Con and look at the past, but look at the future, what we need, what we can afford to pay for, etc. At prevention, for one thing.

And at ENDING for-profit health care, which makes life a commodity - rather like slavery did.

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