Doctor: Veterans get hooked, not healed, at VA hospital

Jun 12, 2010 Full story: The Virginian-Pilot 14

Loading... Dr. Pamela Gray laid out her concerns to representatives of Sen. Jim Webb and the VA inspector general.

Full Story
The Monkey

Hampton, VA

#1 Jun 13, 2010
Scathing...
If true it's reprehensible.
bionicgma

Virginia Beach, VA

#2 Jun 30, 2010
Too Bad we don't have more MD's with Pam Grays fortitude. Having been a patient of hers for over 10 years I assure you if she says it it is true. She is a fantastic diagnostician, an advocate for her patients and will fight like a mother tiger for them. I can only pray she returns to practice locally.v She is one of a kind.
Crisco

Columbus, OH

#3 Jun 30, 2010
Our vets get too short-changed in the United States.
EazyRider

United States

#4 Jun 30, 2010
Certainly isnt a problem at the VA clinic in Charleston WV.

Go there with a hand full of records showing you have no cartilage left from DJD, and were treated for 9 years at a pain management center, and they will load you down with bottles of neurotin and muscle relaxers. No danger of getting hooked on opiates there. In fact you could just die are far as they are concerned. One less vet to worry about having to treat.
Dont get me started..........

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#5 Jun 30, 2010
I posted this a few weeks ago:

I visited close friends, a married couple yesterday and had a big dinner. I've lost weight and am eating as much as possible before CT and a week of noodle soup. My friends are both in bad shape. Both have cancer. The husband is terminal. Hep C, liver cancer an apparently burst tumor in his uterus and diabetes so severe that a medical monograph was written about him as he survived a diabetic coma with record sugar levels. No one had ever come out of a coma with sugar levels this high in medical history.
He can barely piss with a catheter but will not go to the hospital for an operation because he believes he will never return home. We've tried to talk him into it but no go. His thinking is impaired. He is exhibiting distinct signs of either blood toxicity or brain cancer. He was prescribed 240 mg. oxy daily for a long time. When he could no longer afford private insurance he went to the VA. He was drafted in 67 or 68 and the army kept him on the front lines in Vietnam for two years, rather than the the usual one as he was an explosives expert. The VA doctors were (are) azzholes and immediately replaced his 240 mg. oxy with 20! mg. methadone daily. He was accused of enjoying the oxy!? A month later he tested negative for methadone and positive for cannabis (a Dopefiend!!!) and they accused him of SELLING his methadone. He explained that he had to take more than his allotted 20 mg.(DUH) and that he ran out long before the month was over. So they cut him off of that too. He gets oxy and other narcotics from wherever he can whenever he can. When he has it he has been up and active and able to experience some enjoyment of this, the end of his life. When he is without he is bedridden and in agony.
I apologize for my long rant. I'm pissed.
samantha

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Jun 30, 2010
EXmethadone wrote:
I posted this a few weeks ago:
I visited close friends, a married couple yesterday and had a big dinner. I've lost weight and am eating as much as possible before CT and a week of noodle soup. My friends are both in bad shape. Both have cancer. The husband is terminal. Hep C, liver cancer an apparently burst tumor in his uterus and diabetes so severe that a medical monograph was written about him as he survived a diabetic coma with record sugar levels. No one had ever come out of a coma with sugar levels this high in medical history.
He can barely piss with a catheter but will not go to the hospital for an operation because he believes he will never return home. We've tried to talk him into it but no go. His thinking is impaired. He is exhibiting distinct signs of either blood toxicity or brain cancer. He was prescribed 240 mg. oxy daily for a long time. When he could no longer afford private insurance he went to the VA. He was drafted in 67 or 68 and the army kept him on the front lines in Vietnam for two years, rather than the the usual one as he was an explosives expert. The VA doctors were (are) azzholes and immediately replaced his 240 mg. oxy with 20! mg. methadone daily. He was accused of enjoying the oxy!? A month later he tested negative for methadone and positive for cannabis (a Dopefiend!!!) and they accused him of SELLING his methadone. He explained that he had to take more than his allotted 20 mg.(DUH) and that he ran out long before the month was over. So they cut him off of that too. He gets oxy and other narcotics from wherever he can whenever he can. When he has it he has been up and active and able to experience some enjoyment of this, the end of his life. When he is without he is bedridden and in agony.
I apologize for my long rant. I'm pissed.
I'm so sorry. That was a real tear jerker. It's unbelievable what vets go through. My friends husband has bone cancer and protate problems and they just carved him up. Makes me sick. And we are now fighting again and sending lot's of young people to a far away place to come back mamed if they come back at all. I'm sorry, I think war should be the very very last resort. And since America won't take care of their vets, I would rather die than go. I'm so lucky I'm a woman in that respect at least. The whole thing is making me sick. I can't even talk about this...

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#7 Jun 30, 2010
Americans have the historical memory and attention span of gnats I suppose. Give us some hollow patriotic slogans and we'll go along with anything. If Americans had been told about the history and politics of Vietnam, we would not have allowed this war to happen. Decision making is left to "experts" while the public is left in the dark. Good info is available to those who seek it.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#8 Jun 30, 2010
Some facts about Vietnam:
Ho Chi Minh fought with the Americans against Japanese imperialism in WW II. After the war Ho repeatedly petitioned President Truman for Vietnam to become a protectorate of the U.S. with a constitution based on that of the U.S. constitution. The U.S. refused, wishing instead to install a puppet regime and replace French colonialism with U.S. colonialism. This policy came close to a shooting war in Vietnam between the French and Americans in the '50s. Americans were told that the U.S. sent advisers to aid the French against the Viet minh communists. After the U.S. took the place of the French after French defeat by the Viet Minh, elections were suspended in South Vietnam after polls showed that elections would result in reunification of North and South Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh. So much for "spreading democracy".
samantha

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Jun 30, 2010
EXmethadone wrote:
Some facts about Vietnam:
Ho Chi Minh fought with the Americans against Japanese imperialism in WW II. After the war Ho repeatedly petitioned President Truman for Vietnam to become a protectorate of the U.S. with a constitution based on that of the U.S. constitution. The U.S. refused, wishing instead to install a puppet regime and replace French colonialism with U.S. colonialism. This policy came close to a shooting war in Vietnam between the French and Americans in the '50s. Americans were told that the U.S. sent advisers to aid the French against the Viet minh communists. After the U.S. took the place of the French after French defeat by the Viet Minh, elections were suspended in South Vietnam after polls showed that elections would result in reunification of North and South Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh. So much for "spreading democracy".
i was going to say as much, but sometimes vets get angry if someone says there was no basis for a war. i don't understand that. i want this war we are in to end right now. yet, a vet would take that as a disrespect. i don't get that. i want it over because of the vets. i want it over because i don't want one more to come back in a body bag. i don't want one more to step on a mine. i don't want one more life lost to fight 100 Taliban in the entire country we are occupying. And they say that the Taliban movement is growing world wide because they are in defense of us occupying their country...so what are we doing there? Why do we not take that 33 billion a month and all those hundreds of thousands of soldiers and bring them back here to build roads and schools and a great security program to help protect the US proper. if they want to send someone there, send them undercover. Someone is making big money for this to happen..
samantha

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Jun 30, 2010
i voted for 'change", but this is not the "change" i voted for. i did not vote to pick the lessor of two evils. i voted to have the middle class back. i voted to have great schools and libraries and free-er education for everyone. i voted for their to be some fairness in the tax system and for regulations....yes, lots of regulations. See, i've had several small businesses and i have not met a regualtion that i didn't like. If I make hot dogs, I want there to be a regulation that says their should be meat in my hot dogs and not rat parts. When I had my lamination business, i wanted a regulation for the recycling of the left over plastic. Whomever says regulations are ruining things for small business--does not own a small business. i don't want the gas station next door to poor oil down the street drain. i want a company to pick up after itself and not destroy the planet. There is not a regulation that i do not like. So why are people dissing regulations.... How do you think the traffic would look if we decided to get rid of the regulations of the roads. And just let people do the right thing on their own. We are seeing what happens when we let people judge themselves. They choose to steal over selling. They would choose to run the red light and be first on the road. We cannot have roads or small businesses or anything without regulations....now i've digressed...there is so much for me to be frustrated about. i was hugely offended when i was called a scammer because i would do anything for someone-even before I do for myself. And i am furious at thieves-big or small.
I'm enraging myself...time for a chill pill...sorry....

“the one,the only,BABETTE!!!! !”

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#11 Jul 25, 2010
The Monkey wrote:
Scathing...
If true it's reprehensible.
it is true, they pump our guys and gals, full of pills, and then sometimes send them back into battle, it is really awful. god bless america, and our people trying to , protect us! love cat
private steve

Las Vegas, NV

#12 Mar 27, 2014
To whom it may concern let them be the one laying in a bed with pain out of this world on top of you. What will you do if you have to carry all the weight of the world on your shoulders. Everyone is different some need it some don't the difference is inadequate profession care that can't pick the ones who do and don';t
private steve

Las Vegas, NV

#13 Mar 27, 2014
EXmethadone wrote:
Some facts about Vietnam:
Ho Chi Minh fought with the Americans against Japanese imperialism in WW II. After the war Ho repeatedly petitioned President Truman for Vietnam to become a protectorate of the U.S. with a constitution based on that of the U.S. constitution. The U.S. refused, wishing instead to install a puppet regime and replace French colonialism with U.S. colonialism. This policy came close to a shooting war in Vietnam between the French and Americans in the '50s. Americans were told that the U.S. sent advisers to aid the French against the Viet minh communists. After the U.S. took the place of the French after French defeat by the Viet Minh, elections were suspended in South Vietnam after polls showed that elections would result in reunification of North and South Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh. So much for "spreading democracy".
WOW WOW you are for real the truth
Viet Nam Veteran

Chillicothe, OH

#14 Apr 8, 2014
catspaw1955 wrote:
<quoted text>it is true, they pump our guys and gals, full of pills, and then sometimes send them back into battle, it is really awful. god bless america, and our people trying to , protect us! love cat
Yep, seen it first hand. A relative was severely injuried in service of his country and was kept "functional" by the bags of pills he recieved every time he went into the Base Hospital. After his discharge, it continued with the VA Medical Center. As his pain medication tolerence increased, it became necessary for him to "Doctor Shop" to keep the supply coming. Because of his service connection, the VA was paying for all of his medical visits both VA and Non-VA so they should have known exactly what was going on. They did NOTHING to treat his addiction. He finally realized he needed help and than it took several DEMANDS and the intervention of a Veterans Service Officer to find the treatment he needed at the VA. The program was very successful BUT he could back slide tomorrow because the VA continues to offer him unneeded pain meds almost every visit. All he would have to do is say YES.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Veteran Affairs Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
VeteranPTSD Epidemic Calls For Action Fri barara 1
Lake County to collect veterans' stories Fri Viet Nam Vet 1
Obama's ISIS Plan Divides Iraq War Veterans In ... Thu Jeff Brightone 2
Obama push to hire veterans into federal jobs s... Sep 18 Viet Nam Vet 1
With service dog, Vietnam vet overcomes PTSD Sep 17 Viet Nam Vet 1
House bill would require outside oversight of V... Sep 17 Viet Nam Vet 4
Heart Disease added to Agent Orange Vietnam Vets (Nov '09) Sep 17 OTHER BROTHER 5,877
•••

Veteran Affairs People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

•••