Pay for our trips home - the Islamic Women's Welfare Association

Feb 12, 2012 | Posted by: Palawa | Full story: www.heraldsun.com.au

The Islamic Women's Welfare Association also says Muslims prefer to live close to their own people and Australia should consider how to "facilitate the purchase of homes for new migrants". In a submission to a federal multicultural inquiry, the association has urged the Government to give tax deductions to newly arrived migrants so they can visit ... (more)

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Feb 13, 2012
 
Beady wrote:
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That's the spirit, now direct your comments to the right party.
And for crying out loud put a bit more oomph and darkside into it.
Your lack of faith disturbs me.(hand gesture)

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It's our dumb arse government catering to these ridiculous requests...they should be telling these people to get in line behind the more deserving.

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"Islamics want to live with their own kind"

WTF? I'm a white male atheist, and if I DARED to suggest I wanted to live with MY own kind I'd be howled out as a Nazi white-supremacist racist scumbag.

You know, those folks over at Stormfront really do have a valid point about the monstrous double standards levelled at whites throughout the West, and being male as well only compounds it to the point where the white male is the most detested, hated human being in the world.

Well, this article is the straw that breaks the camel's back. I didn't really want to join Stormfront, but seeing this hypocrisy has decided me. I'm off to join their site and make a donation right now.
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Another Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Your lack of faith disturbs me.(hand gesture)
That is not what should and ought to have disturbed you.

Yes feel free to use any gestures at your disposal (hand or otherwise) by addressing your un-started business over here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/TL...

We expect a full and unequivocal condemnation and nothing less.

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Beady wrote:
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That is not what should and ought to have disturbed you.
Yes feel free to use any gestures at your disposal (hand or otherwise) by addressing your un-started business over here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/TL...
We expect a full and unequivocal condemnation and nothing less.
Expectations lead to disappointment. So, tell the truth. Are you an employee of Topix, posing as an insane Mauritian troll? Sign up to Topix and leave your location untouched, as you hound so many others to do.

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"Islamics want to live with their own kind"
WTF? I'm a white male atheist, and if I DARED to suggest I wanted to live with MY own kind I'd be howled out as a Nazi white-supremacist racist scumbag.
You know, those folks over at Stormfront really do have a valid point about the monstrous double standards levelled at whites throughout the West, and being male as well only compounds it to the point where the white male is the most detested, hated human being in the world.
Well, this article is the straw that breaks the camel's back. I didn't really want to join Stormfront, but seeing this hypocrisy has decided me. I'm off to join their site and make a donation right now.
Join Stormfront and you will be a Nazi white-supremacist racist.

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AussieSteve wrote:
"Islamics want to live with their own kind"
WTF? I'm a white male atheist, and if I DARED to suggest I wanted to live with MY own kind I'd be howled out as a Nazi white-supremacist racist scumbag.
You know, those folks over at Stormfront really do have a valid point about the monstrous double standards levelled at whites throughout the West, and being male as well only compounds it to the point where the white male is the most detested, hated human being in the world.
Well, this article is the straw that breaks the camel's back. I didn't really want to join Stormfront, but seeing this hypocrisy has decided me. I'm off to join their site and make a donation right now.
It's not just whites who are discriminated against by these morons and their supporters. It's anyone who doesn't follow there stupid god and there are many non whites are are like that.
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Feb 13, 2012
 

Quote > NEW migrants should get taxpayer subsidies to visit overseas relatives, an Islamic group has told the Federal Government.<

Should they? Whatever happened to getting a job, budgeting and saving for an overseas trip? Itís actual requirement for most human beings in Australia.

Quote> The Islamic Women's Welfare Association also says Muslims prefer to live close to their own people and Australia should consider how to "facilitate the purchase of homes for new migrants".<

Perhaps the Islamic Womenís Welfare Association should take their arguments to unemployed people who would get their payments docked by Centrelink if they prefer NOT to live close to drug addicts and dealers, want to clean the slate and seek a new life in a regional or country area, back to their families in some cases.

Quote> In a submission to a federal multicultural inquiry, the association has urged the Government to give tax deductions to newly arrived migrants so they can visit relatives in their homelands.<

How about a tax deduction for myself so I can visit relatives of mine who are overseas?

Quote>"Migrants face a lot of sacrifices such as having to travel long distances to visit relatives, spending on communication costs, missing out on some events occurring in native countries etc," the submission said.<

Stiff shit. Many Australians make a lot of sacrifices and donít expect the taxpayer to soften the negatives of those sacrifices.

Quote>"This loss should be compensated by the Government in one way or the other to retain migrants in their country of adoption."<

Wrong. The loss would NOT be compensated by the Government in one way or the other. The loss would be compensated by other taxpayers, some of whom may need that money to feed and shelter themselves. And I donít think we need to retain migrants who seek to sponge off the taxpayer for their overseas trips, or bring such people into the country at all if we can help it.

Quote> Victorian Muslim and president of the Australian Council of Bosnian Organisations Senada Softic-Telalovic said while some help might be justified for needy refugees who had to go overseas to settle their affairs, she didn't support travel compensation for all newcomers.
That type of argument will bring out further outrage from those who are so anti-migrant and so anti-multiculturalism," she said. Ms Softic-Telalovic said that Australia was seen as an ideal migration destination and new arrivals shouldn't take the country for granted.<

Is that her only concern? So the flippant waste of taxpayerís money doesnít matter?

Quote>Victorian Multicultural and Citizenship Minister Nick Kotsiras said tax breaks for migrant trips abroad was a ridiculous idea.
"We are all equal and no one should get special privileges," he said.<

Heís right, but then again there might be a possibility that he didnít want his political colleagues to have a quiet chat to him and say,ĒLook mate, you might be better off playing pattycake with the student hipsters in Socialist Alternative than holding a ministerial position of responsibility within the Labor partyĒ.

Quote>The Islamic welfare association is based in Lakemba, Sydney, which has one of the highest Muslim populations in Australia.
Its submission also said that migrants should be free to build their own places of worship "without prejudice or discrimination from the communities they live (in)".<

I would agree with the above if the following statement was true: Religious cultures treat outsiders with the same lack of prejudice and discrimination as they treat fellow adherents. But I donít for some strange reason. So suck it up and accept a diversity of views in those communities given that those communities had no choice but to accept a diversity of clashing cultures.

The Islamic Women's Welfare Association should start their own circus to pay for their overseas junkets. Not a flea circus but utilising far bigger parasites.

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Did anybody read the full submission?

Migrant wish list: Read the full submission:

http://www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/mig/mul...
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#30
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<quoted text>But based on earlier immigration & growth estimates, the same was said of Irish, Greeks, Chinese & Vietnamese. The birthrate will level off & immigration changes periodically.
http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/books/demo...
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it should never happen. judging by the european experience with middle eastern and african muslims, the aus govt should move mountains to ensure this doesn't happen in australia.
Who is going to make them?

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Join Stormfront and you will be a Nazi white-supremacist racist.
Ok, so I am a Nazi whiteisupremacist racist - now. Your point being?

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AussieSteve wrote:
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Ok, so I am a Nazi whiteisupremacist racist - now. Your point being?
Your only here to plug the site..right?

The point is that you are no better(in fact worse) than the Islamic supremacist.

Why dont you and the Adolf combover hair cut boys feck off back to Germany.

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When you consider the thousands of dollars you win for having a baby on top of all the extra family assistance money you get for each additional child, I think many muslim families are living quite comfortably on Australian taxes as it is. If you add a little illegal activity into the equation, that would explain how so many of them can also afford to travel so extensively and drive expensive cars.
some also have more than one 'wife'- the other 'wives' with children claim supporting parents benefits. this entitles them to public housing and a range of benefits (like free health care).

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Gottaliv wrote:
Did anybody read the full submission?
Migrant wish list: Read the full submission:
http://www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/mig/mul...
I have just read the full submission - yes, obviously we are left still wanting as considerate hosts to these people - you have to ask, how many concessions would we need to make, how far would we need to fade into the background of our own society before these people are happy? This is ridiculous and it should be published on the front page of every paper so all Australians know just what it is that we are still not doing to satisfy this group of migrants. Don't they realise, many have come before them and through hard work and determination, built a secure life for themselves and families, without selective treatment and in many cases, in spite of, not because of, the prevailing attitudes and policies of the time. Migrants have the right to be treated fairly, to not be discriminated against, to have equality of opportunity in work and education - anything more they should do for themselves - like all other members of the community.
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If they want to stay close to their families they could stay in their home country. If they are grouped together, they would probably next insist on Sharia law (hide and watch).
On a totally non-related venue, we used to sing this little song at work to the tune of Camptown Races:
Kiss my butt till your eyes pop out, do da, do da
repeat or change words as needed.
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What's wrong with our crazy government?

Increasingly many Australians are trapped in insecure jobs without any future prospects and are being laid off from work. Struggling Aussie battlers have no rights to any form of support let alone a holiday but immigrants do.

The government should stop all immigration and focus on getting Australia back on it's feet.

It makes no sense bringing in migrants when we have a lack of accommodation,jobs, an overloaded health, education, public transport and road system within an expensive cost of living.

Australians have to fix their own shit up and look out for themselves instead of getting used by others.
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Quote > NEW migrants should get taxpayer subsidies to visit overseas relatives, an Islamic group has told the Federal Government.<
The Islamic Women's Welfare Association also says Muslims prefer to live close to their own people and Australia should consider how to "facilitate the purchase of homes for new migrants".<
"This loss should be compensated by the Government in one way or the other to retain migrants in their country of adoption."<
Why would this Islamic Women's Welfare Association imagine we even want to "retain them in their country of adoption", especially if it's going to cost us more than it already does?
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scooterman wrote:
"This loss should be compensated by the Government in one way or the other to retain migrants in their country of adoption.
Over time and reading this forum I am beginning to see how unreasonable the requests from sections of the Muslim community are.
The Australian Islamic Women's Welfare Association is perfectly aware there are alternative sources that are far more appropriate to apply for financial assistance.
Primarily there are international Islamic Dawars funded by muslim countries which are quite well off. They are sourced from money from the gulf states, Saudi Arabia and others.
Secondly there are plenty of muslim co-ops in Australia that offer interest free loans to needy families.
I think this illustrates how selfish the muslim community in Australia is not to look after their own instead of asking these women to go with a begging bowl to the Australian tax payer.
Finally there are a number of projects around Australia where low cost housing is being purchased in large blocks to create muslim estates. I think families who feel disconnected to the culture in Australia may consider getting loans from the muslim community to buy or at least rent in these estates. Of course the problem here is that it encourages ghettos.

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#42
Feb 13, 2012
 
It has clearly been proven that putting all peoples in their own groups creates havoc in Australia....Like Aboriginals, Vietnamese, Muslims and the more radical or aggressive the race the more problems they create...separate them and make them live ammong others so they learn a more tolerant and realist way to incorporate all races creeds and colours into their world...being of one colour and one race causes immense bias...Muslims are doing themselves no favours in this country....

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