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Interracial couple banned from Gulnare Freewill Baptist Church in Kentucky [News]

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Anon

Pikeville, KY

#1643 Mar 15, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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If you can't obey the rules topix lays down, why don't you something else and leave everybody else alone?
Was I disobeying some God forsaken rule Rose Blow Ho?You are the one that's always on here moaning and groaning how offended you are so if you are that thin skinned stay the hell off topix or put on your big girl panties and shut the hell up!!
Bubba

Rancho Cordova, CA

#1644 Mar 15, 2013
The Bible is not a Jewish Book

by Bertrand L. Comparet

The statement is commonly made, even by those who should know better, that we Christians owe a debt to the Jews, for we got our Bible and our religion from them. While many people have been deceived into believing this, it is completely false.

Part of the mistake comes from the complete confusion in the minds of nearly all people as to just what they mean by Jew.

Are they referring to people of a certain race, or referring to a people of a certain religion, for the two are not the same. There are in Africa today, some pure blooded negroes who are Jews by religion; in India today there are some pure blooded Indians who are Jews, and there are in China today, some pure blooded Mongolians who are Jews by religion. Likewise, there are some people today who are racially of the stock we know as Jews, but who have been converted to other religions.

First let's consider the claim we got our Bible and our religion from the Jews, as meaning Jews by religion. It is certain we didn't get the New Testament from them, for it condemns the Jewish religion throughout all the New Testament.

But did we get the Old Testament from them? No, for several reasons: in the first place, no Jew by religion existed before the return from the Babylonian captivity, shortly after 536 B.C. Their great historian Josephus writes, "So the Jews prepared the work. Jew is the name they are called by from the day that they came up from Babylon."

The only books of the Old Testament that were written after the return from Babylon are, Kings, Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (all of them historical, rather than doctrinal) Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.

In none of these do the Jews receive anything but rebuke for their wickedness, for their apostasy from the religion of the Old Testament. The late Rabbi Stephen F. Wise, formerly the Chief Rabbi of the United States said, "The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud mark the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism."
Bubba

Rancho Cordova, CA

#1645 Mar 15, 2013
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The learned Rabbi was correct in distinguishing the true religion of the Old Testament as Hebrewism for it was the religion of the real Hebrews, who were not Jews at all. Judaism, the religion of the Jews, is as the learned Rabbi says, based upon the Babylonian Talmud, which contains the supposed oral law. It was never reduced to writing as part of the Bible. This oral law gradually gained greater force among the Jews than the written law in the Bible, with which it often conflicted in Jesus' day, the Babylonian Talmud was known as the Tradition of the Elders.

This is why Jesus told the Jews:
"Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. Howbeit, in vain do they worship Me, teaching for doctrines the Commandments of men. For laying aside the commandments of God that ye may keep your own tradition, ye make the Word of God of none effect through your tradition which ye have delivered" (Mark 7:6-13). "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God" (Matthew 22:29).

Well then, can it be said we got our Bible or our religion of Christianity from men of the Jewish race? No, it cannot.

It can be clearly proven, both out of the historical books of the Bible and out of the only thorough history of the times written by one living when the facts were still well known. Josephus' "Antiquities of the Jews," tells that the Jews were a people distinct and separate from Yahweh's people Israel, although living among them.

The Jew were the Canaanite people who lived in Palestine, before Israel entered the promised land and who were not driven out. These Canaanite people, and the mixed offspring from intermarriage with the Israelites, were allowed to remain in the land while paying heavy tribute taxes.
Bubba

Rancho Cordova, CA

#1646 Mar 15, 2013
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This is confirmed by Jesus. In Matthew 15:24 He said, "I am not sent but unto the sheep of the house of Israel." In John chapter 10 Jesus tells the Jews, "I am the good Shepherd and know My sheep and am known of Mine. But ye believe not because ye are not of My sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear My voice and I know them and they follow Me." From the Savior's own lips we have the proof that the Jews are not of the tribes of Israel.

Note carefully that He does not say that their unbelief keeps them from being of His sheep. He says the exact opposite, that the reason why they do not believe is that they are not of His sheep, the house of Israel. Christianity and Judaism are completely and irreconcilably inconsistent. Whichever one is right, the other must be wrong for they mutually repudiate each other. A great part of Jesus' reported Words are His denunciation of the Jews for their religion, which He tells them is not that of the Old Testament. In John 5:46 Jesus told them, "Had ye believed in Moses, ye would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me." In Luke 16:31 Jesus said, "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded through one rose from the dead." He was right, He did rise from the dead, but to this day they are not persuaded.

It is therefore clear, we got neither our Bible nor our Christian religion, either in whole or in part from those who were Jews, either by religion or by race. We owe them no debt, for they gave us nothing.

Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser wrote, "This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jews as well as Christians - that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is, of course, a fallacious impression... Judaism is not the religion of the Bible" (Judaism and the Christian Predicament, New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1967, p. 59).

Rabbi Moshe M. Maggal, President, National Jewish Information Service wrote: "... you will notice the great difference between the Jewish and Christian religions. But these are not all. We consider the two religions so different that one excludes the other... we emphasized that there is no such thing as a Judeo-Christian religion.... There is not any similarity between the two concepts" (Letter of August 21, 1961).

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#1648 Mar 15, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>Was I disobeying some God forsaken rule Rose Blow Ho?You are the one that's always on here moaning and groaning how offended you are so if you are that thin skinned stay the hell off topix or put on your big girl panties and shut the hell up!!
Are you posting as "Anon" because you were kicked off of Topix because you didn't follow rules you agreed to follow? Well, I'm sure there is a KKK site that would be happy to have you.
Anon

Pikeville, KY

#1650 Mar 15, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Are you posting as "Anon" because you were kicked off of Topix because you didn't follow rules you agreed to follow? Well, I'm sure there is a KKK site that would be happy to have you.
Rose you are crazier than batsh*t.No I have never been kicked off topix and what the he11 are you anyway some d a m n topix rule police or something?From your batsh*t crazy rumblings you sound like the type that thinks the world and everybody around you owes you something.Were you brought up that way?Everything that is wrong with you is the white mans fault.Well I'm here to tell you, me or nobody else on here owes you a D A M N thing not now not ever.As for the KKK why don't you go try to join them you know with all them equal rights and stuff I'm sure you could get affirmative action or acorn to help you get in he11 maybe even old Barry himself would help you.LMAO!!
GOP

Hansford, WV

#1651 Mar 15, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>Rose you are crazier than batsh*t.No I have never been kicked off topix and what the he11 are you anyway some d a m n topix rule police or something?From your batsh*t crazy rumblings you sound like the type that thinks the world and everybody around you owes you something.Were you brought up that way?Everything that is wrong with you is the white mans fault.Well I'm here to tell you, me or nobody else on here owes you a D A M N thing not now not ever.As for the KKK why don't you go try to join them you know with all them equal rights and stuff I'm sure you could get affirmative action or acorn to help you get in he11 maybe even old Barry himself would help you.LMAO!!
Don't it just make you sick how Rose the 'HO' wants a free ride? Typical for sure.
Anon

Pikeville, KY

#1652 Mar 15, 2013
GOP wrote:
<quoted text>Don't it just make you sick how Rose the 'HO' wants a free ride? Typical for sure.
Peggy The Moocher has moved to topix.LMAO
KELLERMAN

Mansfield, OH

#1653 Mar 15, 2013
Mel wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying that God wanted the Nazi to kill the Jews? You are truly lost if you believe that. Jesus was a Jew. The Bible is very clear on that. He was born of Jewish lineage. He followed Jewish customs. WHen he was arrested he was taken to Caiaphas, the Jewish High Priest. When he went before Pilot the first time, Pilot sent him to Kind Herold because he was the ruling Jewish king that oversaw Jewish matters. When Jesus was crucified he had to be killed before sundown because that was when the Sabboth began. WHen they posted "King Of The Jews" on the cross, the Bible never states that it was untrue. And the Bible mentions many times that the Jews were GOd's chosen people. What's the old saying--if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, quacks like a duck...it's a duck.
Jesus was a Jew.
You are a viper waiting in your lair ready to consume whoever you come across. You are twisting the word of God to meet your own needs. You are filled with hate.
I suggest you study and pray.
Thanks for your well written post. Its unusual after reading the crazy Indian posts. Were all God's children regardless of what religion one practices.
Mel

Pineville, KY

#1655 Mar 16, 2013
Bubba wrote:
The Bible is not a Jewish Book
by Bertrand L. Comparet
The statement is commonly made, even by those who should know better, that we Christians owe a debt to the Jews, for we got our Bible and our religion from them. While many people have been deceived into believing this, it is completely false.
Part of the mistake comes from the complete confusion in the minds of nearly all people as to just what they mean by Jew.
Are they referring to people of a certain race, or referring to a people of a certain religion, for the two are not the same. There are in Africa today, some pure blooded negroes who are Jews by religion; in India today there are some pure blooded Indians who are Jews, and there are in China today, some pure blooded Mongolians who are Jews by religion. Likewise, there are some people today who are racially of the stock we know as Jews, but who have been converted to other religions.
First let's consider the claim we got our Bible and our religion from the Jews, as meaning Jews by religion. It is certain we didn't get the New Testament from them, for it condemns the Jewish religion throughout all the New Testament.
But did we get the Old Testament from them? No, for several reasons: in the first place, no Jew by religion existed before the return from the Babylonian captivity, shortly after 536 B.C. Their great historian Josephus writes, "So the Jews prepared the work. Jew is the name they are called by from the day that they came up from Babylon."
The only books of the Old Testament that were written after the return from Babylon are, Kings, Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (all of them historical, rather than doctrinal) Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
In none of these do the Jews receive anything but rebuke for their wickedness, for their apostasy from the religion of the Old Testament. The late Rabbi Stephen F. Wise, formerly the Chief Rabbi of the United States said, "The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud mark the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism."
It has nothing to do with owing a debt to the Jews. It is just a fact. Jesus was a Jew. I've heard people say He wasn't a Jew, He was an Isrealite, but the Bible does refer to Jesus as a Jew and makes no case otherwise. The Bible does say that the Jews were God's chosen people. That does not mean they did not do wrong, just that God chose the Jews to do his work. The Jews sinned a lot. But so do all of God's people. It isn't about worshiping the Jews or mainking them out to be the grestest people on the Earth. They were normal people just like any other race. It is just a fact that they were the chosen people and Jesus, being a direct escendant of David, was a Jew. To say otherwise is to say that the Bible is lying. Of course, if you believe in God or Jesus is a person's own business, but I am amazed at Chrisitians that will go out of their way to prove that Jesus was not a Jew. What is the problem of Jesus being a Jew? It has nothing to do with one's salavation. WHat is wrong with Jesus being a Jew? I take the Bible at face value. I accept what it says. It tells me Jesus was a Jew and that the foudation of the Christian faith came out of Judism. Much of Christian customs came from the Jewish faith. So why does it frighten so many Christians to think that the Christian faith grew out of the Jewish religion? Jesus was a Jew and the Jews were God's chosen people. The Bible states those facts not because it is an Earth shattering revelation, but it is just a matter of fact. Of course, God had very important reasons to chose the Jews. But it wasn't because they were Jews. It was because of various reason which us humans may know and not know.

A just take the Bible as it is written.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#1656 Mar 16, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>Rose you are crazier than batsh*t.No I have never been kicked off topix and what the he11 are you anyway some d a m n topix rule police or something?From your batsh*t crazy rumblings you sound like the type that thinks the world and everybody around you owes you something.Were you brought up that way?Everything that is wrong with you is the white mans fault.
The only thing I've blamed the white man for was leaving the toilet seat up.
Anon wrote:
Well I'm here to tell you, me or nobody else on here owes you a D A M N thing not now not ever.As for the KKK why don't you go try to join them you know with all them equal rights and stuff I'm sure you could get affirmative action or acorn to help you get in he11 maybe even old Barry himself would help you.LMAO!!
You must be really upset you have a black president. LMAO!!

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#1657 Mar 16, 2013
GOP wrote:
<quoted text>Don't it just make you sick how Rose the 'HO' wants a free ride? Typical for sure.
Me? Free ride? LOL!
You Republicans are such racists.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#1658 Mar 16, 2013
Mel wrote:
<quoted text>
It has nothing to do with owing a debt to the Jews. It is just a fact. Jesus was a Jew. I've heard people say He wasn't a Jew, He was an Isrealite, but the Bible does refer to Jesus as a Jew and makes no case otherwise. The Bible does say that the Jews were God's chosen people. That does not mean they did not do wrong, just that God chose the Jews to do his work. The Jews sinned a lot. But so do all of God's people. It isn't about worshiping the Jews or mainking them out to be the grestest people on the Earth. They were normal people just like any other race. It is just a fact that they were the chosen people and Jesus, being a direct escendant of David, was a Jew. To say otherwise is to say that the Bible is lying. Of course, if you believe in God or Jesus is a person's own business, but I am amazed at Chrisitians that will go out of their way to prove that Jesus was not a Jew. What is the problem of Jesus being a Jew? It has nothing to do with one's salavation. WHat is wrong with Jesus being a Jew? I take the Bible at face value. I accept what it says. It tells me Jesus was a Jew and that the foudation of the Christian faith came out of Judism. Much of Christian customs came from the Jewish faith. So why does it frighten so many Christians to think that the Christian faith grew out of the Jewish religion? Jesus was a Jew and the Jews were God's chosen people. The Bible states those facts not because it is an Earth shattering revelation, but it is just a matter of fact. Of course, God had very important reasons to chose the Jews. But it wasn't because they were Jews. It was because of various reason which us humans may know and not know.
A just take the Bible as it is written.
Yeah...
http://www.evilbible.com
Interesting

Kansas City, MO

#1659 Mar 16, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Me? Free ride? LOL!
You Republicans are such racists.
Hello Pamela how are you?Is it getting to boring on the Beattyville Ky,Jackson,Winchester topix post so that you have to come to the Pikeville and Williamson Wv post.On these you were better known as Hagatha May until on a Beattyville post you made you put Ta Ta on it just like old Hag.I might not be the sharpest crayon in the box but that was easy to figure out.Just go to the Beattyville Ky topix this Pamela uses dozens of aliases and proxy servers so California isn't out of the question.Ta Ta Pamela,Hagatha,Rose.
KELLERMAN

Mansfield, OH

#1661 Mar 16, 2013
Mel wrote:
<quoted text>
It has nothing to do with owing a debt to the Jews. It is just a fact. Jesus was a Jew. I've heard people say He wasn't a Jew, He was an Isrealite, but the Bible does refer to Jesus as a Jew and makes no case otherwise. The Bible does say that the Jews were God's chosen people. That does not mean they did not do wrong, just that God chose the Jews to do his work. The Jews sinned a lot. But so do all of God's people. It isn't about worshiping the Jews or mainking them out to be the grestest people on the Earth. They were normal people just like any other race. It is just a fact that they were the chosen people and Jesus, being a direct escendant of David, was a Jew. To say otherwise is to say that the Bible is lying. Of course, if you believe in God or Jesus is a person's own business, but I am amazed at Chrisitians that will go out of their way to prove that Jesus was not a Jew. What is the problem of Jesus being a Jew? It has nothing to do with one's salavation. WHat is wrong with Jesus being a Jew? I take the Bible at face value. I accept what it says. It tells me Jesus was a Jew and that the foudation of the Christian faith came out of Judism. Much of Christian customs came from the Jewish faith. So why does it frighten so many Christians to think that the Christian faith grew out of the Jewish religion? Jesus was a Jew and the Jews were God's chosen people. The Bible states those facts not because it is an Earth shattering revelation, but it is just a matter of fact. Of course, God had very important reasons to chose the Jews. But it wasn't because they were Jews. It was because of various reason which us humans may know and not know.
A just take the Bible as it is written.
I'M glad to be one of the chosen people. It's nice to read a post on here that doesn't end up hating the gays or President Obama. Thanks for the well written post. You define what a Christian should be I can tell you respect your religion.
Bubba

Rancho Cordova, CA

#1662 Mar 19, 2013
Mel wrote:
<quoted text>
It has nothing to do with owing a debt to the Jews. It is just a fact. Jesus was a Jew. I've heard people say He wasn't a Jew, He was an Isrealite, but the Bible does refer to Jesus as a Jew and makes no case otherwise. The Bible does say that the Jews were God's chosen people. That does not mean they did not do wrong, just that God chose the Jews to do his work. The Jews sinned a lot. But so do all of God's people. It isn't about worshiping the Jews or mainking them out to be the grestest people on the Earth. They were normal people just like any other race. It is just a fact that they were the chosen people and Jesus, being a direct escendant of David, was a Jew. To say otherwise is to say that the Bible is lying. Of course, if you believe in God or Jesus is a person's own business, but I am amazed at Chrisitians that will go out of their way to prove that Jesus was not a Jew. What is the problem of Jesus being a Jew? It has nothing to do with one's salavation. WHat is wrong with Jesus being a Jew? I take the Bible at face value. I accept what it says. It tells me Jesus was a Jew and that the foudation of the Christian faith came out of Judism. Much of Christian customs came from the Jewish faith. So why does it frighten so many Christians to think that the Christian faith grew out of the Jewish religion? Jesus was a Jew and the Jews were God's chosen people. The Bible states those facts not because it is an Earth shattering revelation, but it is just a matter of fact. Of course, God had very important reasons to chose the Jews. But it wasn't because they were Jews. It was because of various reason which us humans may know and not know.
A just take the Bible as it is written.
"Just take the Bible as it is written"

The O.T. calls for executing homosexuals does the nation of Israel still follow the commandments in the bible? Why not?
Julissa

Greenbrier, AR

#1664 Mar 20, 2013
I think that we need to worry less about white people marrying black people, and wake up and realize that soon men will be marrying men and women will be marrying women if certain laws change, and that some churches may have lawsuits brought against them if their pastors don't officiate the those type of weddings. That is what I'm afraid is going to happen soon. Even our president, Barack Obama supports those type of marriages ( gay marriages ) now. Again, wake up, people! Look what we're facing!
Julissa

Greenbrier, AR

#1665 Mar 20, 2013
And for the record, I support interracial marriage.
I DON'T support gay marriage.
KELLERMAN

Mansfield, OH

#1667 Mar 20, 2013
Julissa wrote:
And for the record, I support interracial marriage.
I DON'T support gay marriage.
I support both and should you be reminded that in years past interracial couples had the same discrimination against them as the gays do today. You should be smart enough to know that churches don't have to honor marriages or conduct marriages that they condoned. I'm sure the gays will go to their local court house to obtain marriage licenses. they aren't asking religious organizations to endorse their marriage. I know that some churches are inclusive in their congregation. Keep church and state separate.
TTSSYF

United States

#1669 Mar 20, 2013
KELLERMAN wrote:
<quoted text> I support both and should you be reminded that in years past interracial couples had the same discrimination against them as the gays do today. You should be smart enough to know that churches don't have to honor marriages or conduct marriages that they condoned. I'm sure the gays will go to their local court house to obtain marriage licenses. they aren't asking religious organizations to endorse their marriage. I know that some churches are inclusive in their congregation. Keep church and state separate.
Well Kellerman if you are all for marrying blacks and queers maybe you and wtf should just hook up.im sure you could move into his moms basement with him.Who knows he may even share his Obama dolls with you.

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