Hershey to close main plant

Sad, but in order to compete, I guess Hershey has to modify its business plan.

Unfortunately, past union leadership never set the stage for company/union efforts to preserve jobs in Hershey.

Anyone familiar with the Hershey Union and it's antics over the years seen this coming. This union like many others (especially the Gov. unions are belligerent, lazy and at best socialist thinkers.
I have one thing to say. The next time you you decide to make an ass out of yourself, call management stupid, demand their firing, damage private property, spike the candy with foreign objects or simply fall asleep on the job, remember who makes out your paycheck.
This announcement does not surprise anyone that followed the this union and it's members.
Sad for Hershey but, better for the company and hopefully the community. Maybe we can all just work for a living instead of demanding a living.

Surprised not wrote:

Anyone familiar with the Hershey Union and it's antics over the years seen this coming. This union like many others (especially the Gov. unions are belligerent, lazy and at best socialist thinkers.
I have one thing to say. The next time you you decide to make an ass out of yourself, call management stupid, demand their firing, damage private property, spike the candy with foreign objects or simply fall asleep on the job, remember who makes out your paycheck.
This announcement does not surprise anyone that followed the this union and it's members.
Sad for Hershey but, better for the company and hopefully the community. Maybe we can all just work for a living instead of demanding a living.

Congratulations! This is probably among the top 10 of the most ignorant posts on this board. Hershey's decision has very little, if anything, to do with it's labor union. It is districtly a money oriented decision. Labor is cheaper in Mexico and China.

What would Milton S. think of Hershey's antics? This is not what he envisioned at all. It's all about the almighty dollar.

this will some how end up bushs fault. the union got greedy...thats what happened!!!

catpaw wrote:

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Congratulations! This is probably among the top 10 of the most ignorant posts on this board. Hershey's decision has very little, if anything, to do with it's labor union. It is districtly a money oriented decision. Labor is cheaper in Mexico and China.

At one time American workers were far more productive than workers elsewhere in the world. As a result American companies were able to pay higher wages and still be competitive. Unions have destroyed that productivity edge with their ridiculous bargaining tactics so American companies are no longer able to afford the high wages and are forced to look to the Third World for cheap labor. Leftists should be thrilled. Your ideology has managed to destroy the greatest manufacturing nation in the history of the world and send cheap labor to our "oppressed" Third World brothers. Workers of the world unite. Yeah!

Coach Jerry wrote:

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At one time American workers were far more productive than workers elsewhere in the world. As a result American companies were able to pay higher wages and still be competitive. Unions have destroyed that productivity edge with their ridiculous bargaining tactics so American companies are no longer able to afford the high wages and are forced to look to the Third World for cheap labor. Leftists should be thrilled. Your ideology has managed to destroy the greatest manufacturing nation in the history of the world and send cheap labor to our "oppressed" Third World brothers. Workers of the world unite. Yeah!

You are an idiot. Put this into the Google "american worker productivity", and see that your assumption is false; America worker productivity has increased but wages haven't. The free market laissez-faire policies championed by the corporate globalist (on both the left and right) have allowed big business to outsource their labor to countries that pay slave wages and then Reaganites keep import tarrifs low or nonexistant so that the US can't compete with it. But the profits are good for those multinational corporations and that's good for people like you who sit at home by the pool all day and wait for your dividend checks.

catpaw wrote:

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Congratulations! This is probably among the top 10 of the most ignorant posts on this board. Hershey's decision has very little, if anything, to do with it's labor union. It is districtly a money oriented decision. Labor is cheaper in Mexico and China.

I'd have to disagree with you. I believe this person has a point in what he says. I know quite a few people that work at Hershey and all they want is more more more!! They make very good money for the work that they do, and they have excellent benefits and so on. Another person made the comment that America use to have far more productive workers and companies would pay them for their hard work. Now people think it is owed to them no matter what type of work they do. Not just with Hershey but any type of business/workplace all you hear is people complaining about how much this person makes and how much that person makes. Maybe that person deserves to make more money because they have a better work ethic, higher education, or maybe it's corrupt and because they are friends with someone. If it's the last one then their is nothing you will do about it so find a new job and strive to EARN what you feel you should EARN. I wonder if Hershey would have asked the employees to take a $2 per hour pay cut and they would keep the plant open, if the employees would have accepted. Businesses rarely look at wage reduction as a means of staying alive, because employee moral goes down. People expect to get that paycheck and not have it change for the worse. However, I think it's a lot better to lose $80 per week then to lose ALL OF YOUR PAYCHECK! What ever happened to the you help me I'll help you ideals of the world, rather than the, I'll just help myslef. Just my opinion. Had the company cut the wages of every employee at the facility they would save $84,160 per week which is $4,376,320 per year.

On another note:

What is the business model that says you profit from building brand new and moving to a different location? I know that 19 East is very outdated, and that is due to poor management. They have not upgraded for many years.

Well here ya go...more of these young 'KNOW-IT-ALL" college graduates thinking they will make a difference...mark my words...watch what happens to the hershey company!!!!!!!!

"I don't anticipate keeping our jobs," she said. "You get a job at Hershey, and you think you're safe.... People are upset."

That's the Problem. Americans take everything for granted, and that they deserve it. I say Don't move them to Hershey West...Send them to Mexico. These Pepole will make more on unemployment than I make with a Masters Degrees. Bunch of uneducated fat cats making 50K plus a year, now get off your rump and go get a real job.

elco mom wrote:

What would Milton S. think of Hershey's antics? This is not what he envisioned at all. It's all about the almighty dollar.

Why Was Hershey in the business not to make a profit? Do you think he pulled the money for all of the charitable work out of thin air? Times change companies change or they don't and die. Most i=unions are socialist and want to get paid just because they have been there not because of productivity, these are the same people that say socialized health care is evil. If you don't like they way the company you work for treats you or pays you feel free to find another job.

Hershey is not a big government jobs program, it is a money making business. Who cares what Milton Hershey would have thought, he has been dead for 65 years.

Palmyra Joe wrote:

Hershey is not a big government jobs program, it is a money making business. Who cares what Milton Hershey would have thought, he has been dead for 65 years.

Yea, who cares what Milton Hershey would have thought. He writes on page 4 of his will that the homes were for WHITE MALE ORPHANS I guess we see that didn't last either.

NOTHING is cut in stone!Hershey went to Mexico didn't they?

If you think Corporations such as Hershey is all about the employees, you are in for a rude awakening. 10- 12 years ago it was very employee minded, nowadays it's all about the corporation

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Why Was Hershey in the business not to make a profit? Do you think he pulled the money for all of the charitable work out of thin air? Times change companies change or they don't and die. Most i=unions are socialist and want to get paid just because they have been there not because of productivity, these are the same people that say socialized health care is evil. If you don't like they way the company you work for treats you or pays you feel free to find another job.

True unions can be a good thing, but for the most part they just keep deadbeats in a job some other hard working american could be doing. I know I was in a union that I know that was the way. I also was on the other side of the fence and saw the results on productivity.

Profit over people.

It's the American way!

Time to cut down the 'Cocoa' bushes and plant ones that read 'Profit' since that is what Hershey is really all about.

And perhaps they'll make sure that instead of the smell of chocolate greeting you as you come into town, it will be the smell of crisp, new money.

Coach Jerry wrote:

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At one time American workers were far more productive than workers elsewhere in the world. As a result American companies were able to pay higher wages and still be competitive. Unions have destroyed that productivity edge with their ridiculous bargaining tactics so American companies are no longer able to afford the high wages and are forced to look to the Third World for cheap labor. Leftists should be thrilled. Your ideology has managed to destroy the greatest manufacturing nation in the history of the world and send cheap labor to our "oppressed" Third World brothers. Workers of the world unite. Yeah!

really inaacurate... i actually pay more for services that are NON UNION in PA..it been cheaper for me to hire union workers from NYC, put them up in hotels in PA than it is to hire non union workers in PA to do a job for me... the last non union workers i hired had to be recalled every 3 months to fix what they couldnt do right the first time

Complacency wrote:

"I don't anticipate keeping our jobs," she said. "You get a job at Hershey, and you think you're safe.... People are upset."
That's the Problem. Americans take everything for granted, and that they deserve it. I say Don't move them to Hershey West...Send them to Mexico. These Pepole will make more on unemployment than I make with a Masters Degrees. Bunch of uneducated fat cats making 50K plus a year, now get off your rump and go get a real job.

and your point is? where does it say that being college educated will even get you a job, let alone more money? i have 2 masters, 2 doctorates, yet i can earn more money driving a taxi, waiting tables, or bartending,...an those degrees have no connection to my job

Morbius wrote:

Sad, but in order to compete, I guess Hershey has to modify its business plan.
Unfortunately, past union leadership never set the stage for company/union efforts to preserve jobs in Hershey.

Compete? with whom? fire just one top manager, and u can save hundreds of jobs.. what does a top manager actually do? destroy a company and get paid millions to do it? a top manager isnt usually hired from the bottom ranks so they have no clue what the company is about...and on top of that, we are talking about pennsylvania managers so they dont need more than a first grade education