Healthcare Reform Act does not benefit Illegal Immigrants

Jun 29, 2012 Full story: KNDO 102

Thursday's US Supreme Court ruling to uphold the 2010 Affordable Healthcare Act has raised questions about how this affects people who are in this country illegally.

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see the light

El Paso, TX

#64 Jul 3, 2012
GetEducated wrote:
I'm not saying all illegal aliens do but a lot do pay taxes! I live in California if I buy something I'm paying taxes on it, right? Also do you know what an I-tin is? Well that's how I do my taxes and I always end up owing the state. People need to stop being so ignorant and bringing hate amongst minorities. Why can't people focus more real meaningful issues like donating to kids with cancer, kids in orphanages, kids who are terminally ill. It baffles me that people do all in their power to put a stop to illegal immigration but don't worry about the kids (future) of this nation. It saddens me that in tradegy we are all come together but when it comes to money we are selfish.
They don't pay taxes on a house or own their job.Thats the majority. We have always paid school taxes for illegals brats and their medical care and food stamps. They don't pay enough to even say they do.
see the light

El Paso, TX

#65 Jul 3, 2012
You illegals need to take care of your own kids. We did not have them or want them!

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#66 Jul 4, 2012
Illegals cost an average of $308 BILLION a year. 9 of that is in L.A. county (ca) with an average of $1.5 billion on education. Jerry Brown is an idiot- like they ones who elected him.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#67 Jul 4, 2012
justagi wrote:
Illegals cost an average of $308 BILLION a year. 9 of that is in L.A. county (ca) with an average of $1.5 billion on education. Jerry Brown is an idiot- like they ones who elected him.
They may cost an average of $308 billion in California. The figure is actually $4.3 trillion per year nation wide.
Obamapocolypse Now

San Francisco, CA

#68 Jul 4, 2012
Sounds like those illegal immigrants are the lucky ones should this illegal healthcare law go into effect! It's going to be the worst and most costly reform act that ever existed on this planet. And those other countries that already have socialized healthcare that are suffering from it are the best example and a warning sigh to us poor Americans who don't have a desire to be forced into this or are broke like me and pennyless. Romney 2012!!!

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#69 Jul 4, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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They may cost an average of $308 billion in California. The figure is actually $4.3 trillion per year nation wide.
Have you a credible link for that? Love to have it for my own arguments.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#70 Jul 4, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>Have you a credible link for that? Love to have it for my own arguments.
Sorry, the article I read had a typo that they have since corrected. It was indicating that illegal immigrants defraud the country via a dependent tax loophole to the tune of 4.3 billion. The typo originally stated 4.3 trillion.
But that is 4.3 billion on tax fraud alone.

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#71 Jul 4, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Sorry, the article I read had a typo that they have since corrected. It was indicating that illegal immigrants defraud the country via a dependent tax loophole to the tune of 4.3 billion. The typo originally stated 4.3 trillion.
But that is 4.3 billion on tax fraud alone.
Yup- seen that one before. According to the article, only Congress can correct it. The loophole involves allowing illegal immigrants to claim the dependents they left behind in their home countries, prior to sneaking/trespassing into the US.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#72 Jul 4, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>Yup- seen that one before. According to the article, only Congress can correct it. The loophole involves allowing illegal immigrants to claim the dependents they left behind in their home countries, prior to sneaking/trespassing into the US.
Exactly. And the IRS prevents its workers from questioning the bogus paperwork.
There are numerous IRS whistleblowers coming out of the woodwork as we speak.
rooter

Dallas, TX

#73 Jul 4, 2012
SAV saavy wrote:
BS. There is NO government freebies that illegal aliens have not been able to take full advantage of. Every time the liberals come up with a free sh*t program, the illegals ALWAYS get in. Food stamps, welfare, subsidized housing - name one that isn't loaded with illegals.(Hell, Obozo just decided to let 800,000 have amnesty. All on his own!) Not to mention all the talk about letting them have in-state tuition at colleges.
This is one huge lie. The illegals WILL benefit from your tax dollars and suck up billions in medical cost through ObamaCare. The only bigger lie than this is that this program will "save money". There's never been a government program in the history of the world that saved money.
Obama and the Democrats know that billions and billions will go towards health care for illegals. They just think it's "racist" not to include them. Bend over America, Dr. Obama is putting on his latex gloves!
Absolutely brilliant! What is it going to take for US citizens to wake? Some liberal idiots dont mind having obammys, they would probably twitch and ask for him to dig deeper, LMAO! Your post made my day.
rooter

Dallas, TX

#74 Jul 4, 2012
*finger. Damned i cant spell today.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#75 Jul 4, 2012
SAV saavy wrote:
BS. There is NO government freebies that illegal aliens have not been able to take full advantage of. Every time the liberals come up with a free sh*t program, the illegals ALWAYS get in. Food stamps, welfare, subsidized housing - name one that isn't loaded with illegals.(Hell, Obozo just decided to let 800,000 have amnesty. All on his own!) Not to mention all the talk about letting them have in-state tuition at colleges.

This is one huge lie. The illegals WILL benefit from your tax dollars and suck up billions in medical cost through ObamaCare. The only bigger lie than this is that this program will "save money". There's never been a government program in the history of the world that saved money.

Obama and the Democrats know that billions and billions will go towards health care for illegals. They just think it's "racist" not to include them. Bend over America, Dr. Obama is putting on his latex gloves!
That is correct. And to top it off, those 800,000 illegals are going to "come out of the closet" with the illegal jobs they already have, only now, they will be legal and documented. Do you know what comes next? That's right, Obama claims he just created 800,000 new jobs.
Marie

Spring Hill, FL

#76 Jul 6, 2012
thats right we have enough problems getting healthcare on our own!

“RelaxEverythingW illBeAllright”

Since: Mar 11

United States

#77 Jul 6, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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That is correct. And to top it off, those 800,000 illegals are going to "come out of the closet" with the illegal jobs they already have, only now, they will be legal and documented. Do you know what comes next? That's right, Obama claims he just created 800,000 new jobs.
No. What will happen next is the employers of those newly documented legal residents will cut their hours back and starve them out and replace them with fresh illegals that they recruit in Mexico and guide over the border. Habitual employers of illegals don't want a legal workforce. That's why they are against immigration reform. They like the part of current law which doesn't punish them unless they "knowingly" hire an illegal. Obama's immigration reform has a clause that mandates the use of e-verify. Tyson meats incorporated is against that. There is another clause in Obama's immigration reform bill that sets not just higher fines, but actual prison sentences for corporate executives of companies who are gross violators. The John Morrell Food Group is against that. You see, it's not the talibaggers that keeps congress from passing immigration reform. It's the corporations who hire illegals that does that.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#78 Jul 6, 2012
REWBA wrote:
<quoted text>No. What will happen next is the employers of those newly documented legal residents will cut their hours back and starve them out and replace them with fresh illegals that they recruit in Mexico and guide over the border. Habitual employers of illegals don't want a legal workforce. That's why they are against immigration reform. They like the part of current law which doesn't punish them unless they "knowingly" hire an illegal. Obama's immigration reform has a clause that mandates the use of e-verify. Tyson meats incorporated is against that. There is another clause in Obama's immigration reform bill that sets not just higher fines, but actual prison sentences for corporate executives of companies who are gross violators. The John Morrell Food Group is against that. You see, it's not the talibaggers that keeps congress from passing immigration reform. It's the corporations who hire illegals that does that.
Hey I'm for incarcerating their asses.
I own a business. I can tell you, the law prevents me from asking if an applicant is a legal American or illegal Immigrant. But, the law also requires me to check after I hire them. I have to be politically correct before covering my ass. It's the law.
I have no problem with imprisoning owners and management of corporations that employ illegals.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#79 Jul 6, 2012
But I have a feeling America will see the claim of big numbers of new jobs created by Obama in the few months remaining before election day.

“RelaxEverythingW illBeAllright”

Since: Mar 11

United States

#80 Jul 6, 2012
Speaking of the John Morrell Food Group, Armor Swift Eckrich has a processing plant in Junction City Kansas. They don't have enough illegals living in the Junction City/Manhattan area to fill all their minimum wage with no benefits positions so they send buses and vans to other cities hundreds of miles away to pick up their illegal work force and deliver them to the plant and drive them back to their houses when the shift is over. The unemployment rate in Junction City is 8.30. Why can't they get unemployed US Citizens in Junction City to take the jobs? It's not minimum wage. It's not even the lack of benefits either. They don't take the jobs at Armor Swift Eckrich because Armor Swift Eckrich in Junction City isn't hiring. Well, not US Citizens anyway.

“RelaxEverythingW illBeAllright”

Since: Mar 11

United States

#81 Jul 6, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Hey I'm for incarcerating their asses.
I own a business. I can tell you, the law prevents me from asking if an applicant is a legal American or illegal Immigrant. But, the law also requires me to check after I hire them. I have to be politically correct before covering my ass. It's the law.
I have no problem with imprisoning owners and management of corporations that employ illegals.
I'm retired Army and retired civil service. I don't own a business. I have a farm but it's more of a hobby than a business. I don't hire anyone. I do buddies who operate small businesses and they tell me the same thing...They cannot compete against competitors who use illegal labor. One has a roofing company and the other is into landscaping and grounds maintenance. They both loose contracts to competitors who hire undocumented migrant workers paying them less than federal minimum wage. Both rant against Obama but when I remind them that the federal contracts that they have were protected by one of Obama's executive orders and later a law requiring all federal contractors to use e-verify, they change the subject. Both of those dumbarses have made millions in the last two years mowing federally owned property and replacing roofs on federally owned facilities. So what if wal-mart uses his competitors to remove snow from their parking lot? Fort Riley uses him and it pays on time.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#82 Jul 6, 2012
REWBA wrote:
Speaking of the John Morrell Food Group, Armor Swift Eckrich has a processing plant in Junction City Kansas. They don't have enough illegals living in the Junction City/Manhattan area to fill all their minimum wage with no benefits positions so they send buses and vans to other cities hundreds of miles away to pick up their illegal work force and deliver them to the plant and drive them back to their houses when the shift is over. The unemployment rate in Junction City is 8.30. Why can't they get unemployed US Citizens in Junction City to take the jobs? It's not minimum wage. It's not even the lack of benefits either. They don't take the jobs at Armor Swift Eckrich because Armor Swift Eckrich in Junction City isn't hiring. Well, not US Citizens anyway.
If you know this for a fact, why haven't you notified Border Patrol, or INS? And why did you just give them free advertising online? Lol

“RelaxEverythingW illBeAllright”

Since: Mar 11

United States

#83 Jul 6, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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If you know this for a fact, why haven't you notified Border Patrol, or INS? And why did you just give them free advertising online? Lol
I have reported it to ICE. They don't do crap about it. Armor Swift Eckrich isn't the employer. Supervisors at Armor Swift Eckrich set up a "front" company that provides temporary workforce services. Armor Swift Eckrich then contracts with that company to provide workers. Armor Swift Eckrich pays that front company more than enough money to provide a legal workforce plus bonuses too. In exchange, that front company provides a workforce of unskilled labor. The fact that that unskilled labor is all undocumented aliens who don't speak a word of English and have no papers whatsoever has nothing to do with Armor Swift Eckrich. Bust the illegal in charge of the temporary workforce company and the supervisors at Armor Swift Eckrich just promotes a new illegal as CEO and the beat goes on.
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