Riveredge Hospital patient's death we...

Riveredge Hospital patient's death went unreported to Illinois

There are 34 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Feb 25, 2009, titled Riveredge Hospital patient's death went unreported to Illinois. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Tameka Williams, 27, lay on a gurney in the grips of schizophrenia, gently thumping her fist against her forehead as she waited to be admitted to River-edge Hospital in Forest Park .

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too old

Springfield, IL

#1 Feb 26, 2009
Where was her mother during all of this? She's all concerned about it now, but why wasn't she by her side advocating for her daughter?
Josie

Des Plaines, IL

#2 Feb 26, 2009
I'm so saddened by this story. It is such a tragedy for any young pregnant woman to die, and the fact that this woman appears to have such severe schizophrenia that she was unable to advocate for herself makes is horrible. The bottomline is that this incident should have been reported--no excuses. We don't know this patient's history--maybe this was the drug of choice for her. However, she clearly did not get the necessary monitoring for being on this medicine and the negligence of reporting this incident is suspicious.
CMC

Darien, IL

#3 Feb 26, 2009
Riveredge "Hospital" should be shut down. Just a few months ago there was an article in the tribune about alledged sexual abuse of pediatric patients committed by other mentally ill patients. What is going on over there? These people are defenseless, admitted in the throes of psychosis and hallucinations and it seems the staff and administrators can't protect them from themselves or each other. No vital signs? No fetal heart tones? No signature on consent forms? Total disregard for this patient and her unborn child and then to fail to report this death? Complete negligence. Noone at that place cared about this patient. Time to get a lawyer.
rae

Chicago, IL

#5 Feb 26, 2009
Bubba wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, of course, shut down the hospital, ya dope.
Like the state has shut down its long-term care psychiatric hospitals. Now we have thousands of homeless psychiatric patients wandering the streets of Chicago. How about just giving the hospital administration and medical staff the time a resources to correct conditions at the hospital.
A pregnant schizophrenic. What a great idea. Maybe she would have a litter of octuplets and the taxpayers would have 9 to take care of. Enough for a baseball team of psychos.
You are a fool.
jsd

Oswego, IL

#7 Feb 26, 2009
too old wrote:
Where was her mother during all of this? She's all concerned about it now, but why wasn't she by her side advocating for her daughter?
you have got to be kidding....
American First

Gwynn Oak, MD

#8 Feb 26, 2009
This is murder. I have always believed that mental health treatment is still conducted under the veil of the 17th century. There has been little advancement with the exception of powerful pyschotropic drugs that in 99 per cent of the cases make the person more succeptiple to increased severe mental symptoms and side effects after not taking these prescribed drugs are often fatal too. This is a F shame. The person that died was probably poor so the staff didn't give a S...t. She was probaly in distress at the time of admittance so she was given drugs that would silence her. Yea, it did for the rest of her life. People if you have mental illness don't take those drugs: Thorazine, Wellibruin, Xantax, Seretol, they are all poisons. Let the doctors take em. For the surviving family please to these M..F
Nope

Bolingbrook, IL

#9 Feb 26, 2009
Gotta agree with bubba on this one. If conditions are so bad, change the conditions.
American First

Gwynn Oak, MD

#10 Feb 26, 2009
Bubba wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, of course, shut down the hospital, ya dope.
Like the state has shut down its long-term care psychiatric hospitals. Now we have thousands of homeless psychiatric patients wandering the streets of Chicago. How about just giving the hospital administration and medical staff the time a resources to correct conditions at the hospital.
A pregnant schizophrenic. What a great idea. Maybe she would have a litter of octuplets and the taxpayers would have 9 to take care of. Enough for a baseball team of psychos.
Yea, and the alderman said you could you a metal bat to bash your skull in nutcase....
too old

Springfield, IL

#11 Feb 26, 2009
jsd wrote:
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you have got to be kidding....
Why have I "got to be kidding"? The mother knew her child was unable to advocate for herself, so where was she when she was hospitalized?

Why is this a question deserving of your sarcasm?
GeneTierney

United States

#13 Feb 26, 2009
Nope wrote:
Gotta agree with bubba on this one. If conditions are so bad, change the conditions.
In a perfect world,the CEO would dip into the hospital's obscene profits to change the conditions. It's easier and, of course, more economical for them to warehouse and medicate the patients so they stay quiet. Less staffing is needed if the patients are catatonic. The CEO is probably thrilled to have another empty bed on which to tie another patient, maybe two.
Duh

Manteno, IL

#14 Feb 26, 2009
too old wrote:
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Why have I "got to be kidding"? The mother knew her child was unable to advocate for herself, so where was she when she was hospitalized?
Why is this a question deserving of your sarcasm?
The woman in question was legally an adult, visitors are rarely allowed unrestricted access to mental hospitals, and unless the mother had the resources and knowledge to obtain legal guardianship because of her daughter's debility, she had little to no ability to stand by her daughter regularly while she was in the facility or even have regular, detailed reports of her daughter's medical status.
too old

Springfield, IL

#15 Feb 26, 2009
Duh wrote:
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The woman in question was legally an adult, visitors are rarely allowed unrestricted access to mental hospitals, and unless the mother had the resources and knowledge to obtain legal guardianship because of her daughter's debility, she had little to no ability to stand by her daughter regularly while she was in the facility or even have regular, detailed reports of her daughter's medical status.
Any caring parent would have parked their butt in the hospital (or waiting room if they couldn't get access) and demanded that someone treat their child, regardless of age.
state worker

Springfield, IL

#16 Feb 26, 2009
Although there are denials about placements, the state is still sending kids there.

look into it.
my2cents

United States

#17 Feb 26, 2009
too old wrote:
Where was her mother during all of this? She's all concerned about it now, but why wasn't she by her side advocating for her daughter?
I agree, any time a person is hospitalized I think it is IMPERITIVE to have a loved one or concerned adult nearby at all times. The patient is often not able to advocate for themselves. If you want your friend or family member to get the best treatment possible, Be There with them as much as possible.
With understaffing and lack of experience sadly, the Alone patient is often left by the wayside.
Mom of Aspergers

Bloomingdale, IL

#19 Feb 26, 2009
Riveredge is terrible. Employees don't care at all...
booksdates

United States

#20 Feb 26, 2009
American First wrote:
This is murder. I have always believed that mental health treatment is still conducted under the veil of the 17th century. There has been little advancement with the exception of powerful pyschotropic drugs that in 99 per cent of the cases make the person more succeptiple to increased severe mental symptoms and side effects after not taking these prescribed drugs are often fatal too. This is a F shame. The person that died was probably poor so the staff didn't give a S...t. She was probaly in distress at the time of admittance so she was given drugs that would silence her. Yea, it did for the rest of her life. People if you have mental illness don't take those drugs: Thorazine, Wellibruin, Xantax, Seretol, they are all poisons. Let the doctors take em. For the surviving family please to these M..F
Home run and very well said. These hospitals are holding tanks plain and simple. The psychotropic drugs are to pad the wallets of the so called "doctors" that prescribe them because the pharm reps give them perks i.e. money and trips. Many of these "doctors" have stock in the same chems that they prescribe. Even in the finest of these "hospitals" as in the ones that drain your insurance at 1k per day, they do little more than drop you in a holding tank for observation. Observation??? By who? Some Quack and their staff that in their opinion you are not fit? Total b.s. Don't get me wrong. There are plenty of people that need to be stabilized because they could be prone to violence, however most of the mental health system is a farce. In many cases the patients are just lonely people that family has left behind. Some just need real friends to talk to, a change of environment and a chance to be productive again not a bag full of pills.
Cosmo

Jersey City, NJ

#23 Feb 26, 2009
too old wrote:
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Why have I "got to be kidding"? The mother knew her child was unable to advocate for herself, so where was she when she was hospitalized?
Why is this a question deserving of your sarcasm?
The article says she was there for a little more than a week before she died. Was her mother supposed to be by her side the entire time> I bet her mother was there when she was able to be there, and I bet the mother "advocated" all she could while she was there. But by and large, family of patients--even psych patients!--are not always in the know. They don't always know what drugs their loved ones have been given, especially if there's no health care proxy.
Cosmo

Jersey City, NJ

#24 Feb 26, 2009
So, Bubba, you think that kids with mental illnessess are "bad" kids, so they belong in prison?
Cosmo

Jersey City, NJ

#25 Feb 26, 2009
my2cents wrote:
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I agree, any time a person is hospitalized I think it is IMPERITIVE to have a loved one or concerned adult nearby at all times. The patient is often not able to advocate for themselves. If you want your friend or family member to get the best treatment possible, Be There with them as much as possible.
With understaffing and lack of experience sadly, the Alone patient is often left by the wayside.
Not everyone has family. Not everyone has family who has the luxury of taking time off work to be by their loved one's side. The deceased was in the hospital for over a week. Perhaps her mom is living paycheck to paycheck, like millions of other Americans, so she could not be at her daughter's side as often as needed. Perhaps there was no health care proxy. While I agree that family/friends should do all they can to be with their loved one in cases like this--especially because the squeaky wheel gets the attention--the reality is that the health care providers are responsibile.
Montys python

Henderson, NV

#26 Feb 26, 2009
Slopping reporting.Early in the article the impression was the woman died at Riveredge Hospital.Only in a later paragraph did we learn she died at Loyola Medical Center in Maywood.Question I have is which hospital was responsible for reporting the death?Loyola,where the woman died?Or Riveredge where she had been admitted?If both reported a single death than the stats for the state would be skewered.

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