Chantix side effects sufferers - not ...
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7446 Nov 12, 2012
Thanks Barbara, wish I had one!
Viceguy

Lappeenranta, Finland

#7447 Jan 7, 2013
Virginia Lee wrote:
Thanks Barbara, wish I had one!
Metoclopramide sparks find from Chantix !! It is the answer for all the questions. Now we know the truth !
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7448 Jan 8, 2013
Hey Viceguy,

Thanks for the heads up. Who knew besides Pfizer that Reglan was included in the formation of chantix? This is news to me and I will look into it further. At least this is forcing the CEO's to testify. I wonder if this will result in a settlement for the second case scheduled for trial. I know I suffered from these TD effects and bet you did too! From what little I have read these effects can be permanent the longer you take the drug, more then 12 weeks and I did unlike those who still cheer for chantix.
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7449 Jan 8, 2013
So far, other then one lawyer blog, I have not found anything repoting this fact. It must be another closely held secret of Pfizer's and why the CEO's are being forced to testify. How did they get by with adding it but not listing it in the drug info? I know why they would have kept it secret since the ISMP has questioned if Reglan has any place in clinical practice. In this ISMP report they do have an association of brain damage with Reglan use.

http://www.ismp.org/quarterwatch/pdfs/2011Q1....

According to the FDA, your chances of TD go up if you are an older woman. Also if you take it for more then 12 weeks. So I ask again how did Pfizer get by the FDA adding this generic drug? A lie of omission? It should not be used if you take drugs which can also cause uncontrolled movements such as mental health drugs.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/DrugSafety...
viceguy

Finland

#7450 Jan 13, 2013
Virginia Lee wrote:
Hey Viceguy,
Thanks for the heads up. Who knew besides Pfizer that Reglan was included in the formation of chantix? This is news to me and I will look into it further. At least this is forcing the CEO's to testify. I wonder if this will result in a settlement for the second case scheduled for trial. I know I suffered from these TD effects and bet you did too! From what little I have read these effects can be permanent the longer you take the drug, more then 12 weeks and I did unlike those who still cheer for chantix.
As I told the truth will find out sooner or later. I had akathisia after stopping the drug and I used this terrible poison about 15 weeks because of my doctor order.Tey destroy my whole life...no family any more. The symptoms are just the same as Reglan long term use side effects like TD. Different symptoms for different people.The money is most important for Pfizer...they do not care about people suffering their poison...but I KNOW what has happend to me...and soon everybody knows;)...Happy new year Pfizer ;)
viceguy

Finland

#7451 Jan 13, 2013
viceguy

Finland

#7452 Jan 13, 2013
...and yes, it is closely held secret...but not very long time any more ;)...you will see ;)
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7453 Jan 14, 2013
viceguy wrote:
Yes that is it!
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7454 Jan 14, 2013
viceguy wrote:
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As I told the truth will find out sooner or later. I had akathisia after stopping the drug and I used this terrible poison about 15 weeks because of my doctor order.Tey destroy my whole life...no family any more. The symptoms are just the same as Reglan long term use side effects like TD. Different symptoms for different people.The money is most important for Pfizer...they do not care about people suffering their poison...but I KNOW what has happend to me...and soon everybody knows;)...Happy new year Pfizer ;)
I am sorry you also experienced akathisia too! Thanks so much for the posts pointing to Pfizer's lies and deception again. I hope you can pick up the pieces from this horrible drug's damage. It isn't just you and you are not alone!

"High-functioning patients have described the feeling as a sense of inner tension and torment or chemical torture. Many patients describe symptoms of neuropathic pain akin to fibromyalgia and restless legs syndrome.[5] Although these side effects disappear quickly and remarkably when the medication is stopped, tardive, or late-persisting akathisia may go on long after the offending drug is discontinued, sometimes for a period of years—unlike the related tardive dyskinesia, which can be permanent."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7455 Jan 14, 2013
viceguy wrote:
...and yes, it is closely held secret...but not very long time any more ;)...you will see ;)
I guess we will see if they try to delay the truth coming out again by settling the second case to make it try to make it to court. Bet they do ...
viceguy

Finland

#7456 Jan 14, 2013
Virginia Lee wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess we will see if they try to delay the truth coming out again by settling the second case to make it try to make it to court. Bet they do ...
Of course they will try...everything untill to the end;)
And Ginny...you are one of the best;)....we keep working;)
viceguy

Finland

#7457 Jan 16, 2013
So;)..we knew it beforehand;)...oh Pfizer.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2013/01/pfizer_se...

And what do they do next ;)
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7458 Jan 22, 2013
viceguy wrote:
So;)..we knew it beforehand;)...oh Pfizer.
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2013/01/pfizer_se...
And what do they do next ;)
You are one of the best too Viceguy! Thanks again! I guess we have their number ...

Looks like Pfizer will try to delay for 60 days to pick the next couple of cases they will settle out of court for an undisclosed amount. The last thing they want is a court trial of their poison.
terri

Saint Louis, MO

#7459 Jan 22, 2013
At this rate, the remaining cases may not be settled for years to come?? I hope Judge Johnson forces Pfizer to settle ALL cases asap. Because, my guess is somewhere along the line the "games" Pfizer plays....will backfire and the lid on the trade secrets and what/when they knew of the AE's will be blown up for all the world to see.
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7460 Jan 23, 2013
Terri the name of this game Pfizer is playing is delay. The longer they can keep chantix on the market the more money they make off their poison. Pfizer doesn't care or they would have been honest about what they added to cytisine to make it. It has been over 5 years since I suffered the ill effects of chantix. I expect the trials will take longer. At one possible trial every 3 months, 2600 cases would take forever to be heard.

The time table appears to be 6 months to get it FDA approved, 6 years to add appropriate warning labels, 6 more years to get clinical trial results published and by then it will be generic and Pfizer will have made a killing in profits, even after paying out undisclosed settlements.
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7461 Jan 23, 2013
How long will it take Pfizer to tell us who IS appropriate?

"Pfizer continues to assert Chantix's safety when used by the right patients. "We believe that Chantix is an important treatment option for smokers who want to quit, and the company stands by the medicine and its continued use in appropriate patients," Loder told AL.com ."

http://www.fiercepharma.com/story/pfizer-keep...
terri

Saint Louis, MO

#7462 Jan 23, 2013
Virginia Lee wrote:
How long will it take Pfizer to tell us who IS appropriate?
"Pfizer continues to assert Chantix's safety when used by the right patients. "We believe that Chantix is an important treatment option for smokers who want to quit, and the company stands by the medicine and its continued use in appropriate patients," Loder told AL.com ."
http://www.fiercepharma.com/story/pfizer-keep...
....and THAT'S the problem!!!! You won't KNOW if you're one of those "appropriate patients,"....until your system is saturated w/this poison. And, THEN, it's too late!! Seriously, how hard is that to understand???!!!

THIS IS NOT A CONSPIRACY AGAINST PFIZER....!!! THE WHOLE WORLD DIDN'T BAN TOGETHER AND MAKE THESE STORIES UP!!!! I just can't wrap my head around the fact that we really are soooo corrupt and greedy...that patients don't matter!!!! If what happened to us...happened to one of THEIR loved ones...they would know first hand....it's all true. MAN UP, PFIZER!!!!!
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7463 Jan 24, 2013
Terri maybe the answer is hidden in the metoclopramide contraindications and precausions. Since we the users and even the doctors were not clued in to these how could you figure them out?

"Metoclopramide is contraindicated in pheochromocytoma. It should be used with caution in Parkinson's disease since, as a dopamine antagonist, it may worsen symptoms. Long-term use should be avoided in patients with clinical depression as it may worsen mental state.[3] Also contraindicated with a suspected bowel obstruction.[1]

Patients with a history of ADHD, Restless legs syndrome, Hyperprolactinaemia, and Parkinson's disease should be closely monitored when using dopamine antagonists for treatment of emesies. Patients who take antipsychotics are recommended not to take metoclopramide."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metoclopramide
Virginia Lee

Petersburg, VA

#7464 Jan 24, 2013
Barbara these effecs may be part of the how in your case.

"Metoclopramide also increases the tone of the lower esophageal sphincter."

This is from the mechanism of action for Metoclopramide. Use the link above.

I am sure it is the how in Heather's case who was harassed by Medview and Tulips for her bowel obstruction issues.
terri

Saint Louis, MO

#7465 Jan 24, 2013
Virginia Lee wrote:
Terri maybe the answer is hidden in the metoclopramide contraindications and precausions. Since we the users and even the doctors were not clued in to these how could you figure them out?
"Metoclopramide is contraindicated in pheochromocytoma. It should be used with caution in Parkinson's disease since, as a dopamine antagonist, it may worsen symptoms. Long-term use should be avoided in patients with clinical depression as it may worsen mental state.[3] Also contraindicated with a suspected bowel obstruction.[1]
Patients with a history of ADHD, Restless legs syndrome, Hyperprolactinaemia, and Parkinson's disease should be closely monitored when using dopamine antagonists for treatment of emesies. Patients who take antipsychotics are recommended not to take metoclopramide."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metoclopramide
Virginia....you have SO got it together!!! Can you be my co-counsel?

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