Chantix side effects sufferers - not cheerleaders

[2 cents]

medview wrote:

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I am shattered! You are Trish? Next thing you know, they will tell me there is no Easter bunny.

Now bless your heart, couldn't ya'all tell by my Southern charm?

[medview]

2 cents wrote:

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Now bless your heart, couldn't ya'all tell by my Southern charm?

Well now, that's better - how are you Trish? Congrats on your 2-year anniversary!

[high five]

medview wrote:

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I don't think Peggy is here and your post is going to get lost High Five.

nope

[Curly cheesehead]

medview wrote:

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Well now, that's better - how are you Trish? Congrats on your 2-year anniversary!

2 cents is not trish for real ...Is she. I can't keep this all straight!!!!!!!!!!

[Montanaa]

Curly cheesehead wrote:

<quoted text>2 cents is not trish for real ...Is she. I can't keep this all straight!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Curly,

I went skiing up at Whitefish Mountain this weekend. It was really nice weather for skiing on Sunday. The sun was out and the snow was great. Sounds like your quit is going really well. Keep it up!:-)

Montana

[Curly cheesehead]

Montanaa wrote:

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Hey Curly,
I went skiing up at Whitefish Mountain this weekend. It was really nice weather for skiing on Sunday. The sun was out and the snow was great. Sounds like your quit is going really well. Keep it up!:-)
Montana

Hi I'm glad I checked this thread. They told us they only get about 5 sunny days so we had one and you did too!!! cool. I'm doing great! Too much work though, I hate full time. Hope all is well with you. Good to see you.

[jim]

I took chantix in june 2007 for 5 weeks all was fine until one day I had flash backs of life; being in vietnam and other bad life events never before had this happened to me acused wife of horable things that wernt so with help of friends got thru it quit chantix emeditly got along ok fora year and a half last week all over again got depressed and it all started over nothing like this in my life before chantix

[Live42Day]

jim wrote:

I took chantix in june 2007 for 5 weeks all was fine until one day I had flash backs of life; being in vietnam and other bad life events never before had this happened to me acused wife of horable things that wernt so with help of friends got thru it quit chantix emeditly got along ok fora year and a half last week all over again got depressed and it all started over nothing like this in my life before chantix

Jim, there are plenty of stories of individuals who have quit smoking cold turkey and had a similar experience to yours. Here is one:

http://www.msnusers.com/FreedomFromTobaccoQui...

Smoking most likely allowed you to suppress your feelings and avoid conflict..hopefully you are still going strong with your quit. It takes time to get used to dealing with things without the need for the cig crutch. "Let the healing continue"!~ gltu

[Live42Day]

Randy wrote:

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Blah, Blah, Blah.

Dont repress that anger Randy...just let it out!~)
It would be helpful though if you offer more than simply bodily gurgle noises when you post....tia

[tulips]

jim wrote:

I took chantix in june 2007 for 5 weeks all was fine until one day I had flash backs of life; being in vietnam and other bad life events never before had this happened to me acused wife of horable things that wernt so with help of friends got thru it quit chantix emeditly got along ok fora year and a half last week all over again got depressed and it all started over nothing like this in my life before chantix

I would talk to a doc you trust, there has been some issues with persons taking chantix and had issues prior. Maybe with you PTS ? I don't know. I hope ytou are feeling better soon

[Laufin Mae Ashoff]

VL and other CHANTIX SUCKS No Cheerleader patrons.
OMG! I have been away too long. Sorry I havn't been much support in postings but you know how muuch Chantix messes up your head. I have had anger issues for over a year now since I took that acid trip drug known as chantix. I see all the quit buddies are still harrassing those with side effects from this crap. Loved the reading on the HI thread. I knew that was a group of sicko's! They can't wait to gang up on anyone that didn't want to belive their line of crap.

[Curly cheesehead]

Laufin Mae Ashoff wrote:

VL and other CHANTIX SUCKS No Cheerleader patrons.
OMG! I have been away too long. Sorry I havn't been much support in postings but you know how muuch Chantix messes up your head. I have had anger issues for over a year now since I took that acid trip drug known as chantix. I see all the quit buddies are still harrassing those with side effects from this crap. Loved the reading on the HI thread. I knew that was a group of sicko's! They can't wait to gang up on anyone that didn't want to belive their line of crap.

Hawkeye????

[Virginia Lee]

Curly cheesehead wrote:

<quoted text>Hawkeye????

Buckeye???

[Virginia Lee]

Drug Deals is a powerful documentary about the approval and withdrawal of prescription drugs. It cites a number of specific cases with doctors, journalists, parents, and drug approval agencies giving opinions and facts regarding this important topic. A major problem illustrated in the video is the lack of a separate watchdog organization similar to the Aviation Board which is separate from the airline industry and the airplane producers.

The video begins with the sirens of an ambulance. A 15-year-old girl is rushed to the hospital with cardiac arrest. Her father, Terence Young, talks about his daughter's bulima and her prescription for Propulsid, a brand name for Cisapride, taken for bloating after meals. The video continues with a shot of a cemetery and a child's head stone. Mr. Young states that a paramedic said, "They prescribe this stuff like water."

There are shots of articles both in Canadian and American newspapers about cases in which patients have died with suspected drug interactions or causes. Drugs, such as Thalidomide in the 1960's, were prescribed for morning sickness in pregnant women who did not realize the devastating consequences the drug would have on their unborn children. People believe that the drug industry is reliable, and yet the drug industry has a financial need to market drugs faster. With AIDS and other health conditions, drug companies have changed from a review time of 1100-1200 days in 1990 to 350 days in 2001. Health Canada is under increasing pressure from the industry to speed up the approval time. In 1992 in the United States, user fees were introduced for drugs used in serious diseases. Half of the profit went to regulators of the drug. The video supports the idea that this is a major conflict of interest.

The FDA and the drug industry have often been adversarial in the past, but, in the speeding up of the approval system, the industry becomes the client. Another example given is the drug Rezulin prescribed for Type 2 Diabetes. The fast track for approval was one year instead of three, and now there are 300 deaths suspected to be connected to its use. The video also comments on the difficulty of tracking deaths in drug interaction cases. Often the death is identified as an overdose or unrelated cause. Mr. Willman, a reporter from Los Angeles, was investigating Rezulin and is interviewed for the documentary. He had discovered that one of the scientists had reservations about the clinical tests with Rezulin, but, although the manufacturer had ordered larger trials which would take three months to analyze, the company didn't want to wait and the FDA agreed. The drug was found to have a lethal toxicity.

[Virginia Lee]

In 1993, Cisapride was approved although there was some evidence to support prolonged QT interval in the heart. The FDA had cases on file but failed to consult its own experts. The ramifications were not well understood. In 1992, Health Canada had identified similar problems. One of the scientists interviewed said that there was "gold standard" evidence to show that the drug caused the problems. The FDA said that the benefits to thousands of people could not be delayed because of ten cardiac deaths. They further said that there was no evidence that Cisapride caused the deaths but only that it was possible that Cisapride was the cause. Mr. Young states that this drug is routinely prescribed for non-life threatening illnesses, and his daughter's death was predictable and preventable.

In the court case results which are shown to end the video, Janssen, the Drug Company, and Health Canada communicated their information about the drug to each other prior to a report aired on the television show Market Place, four months before Vanessa's death. Terence Young says that, if he had seen the program, his daughter would still be alive.

Another concern that is mentioned is drug and food interaction. Scientists discovered that Cisapride interacts negatively with grapefruit. It took the company five years to issue the warning to doctors. Another problem is in the "Dear Doctor" letters which are sent out by the drug companies. Many doctors fail to read the information completely or to take action on the information and rely on drug representatives for their information. Doctors also prescribe the drug "off label." In this way, drugs approved for adult use are given to infants with sometimes disastrous results. With Cisapride, four letters were sent over a five year period, but doctors were still prescribing the drug for babies that were spitting up. Because of industry regulation, the FDA cannot go public with warnings. Dr. Billy Bourke said that Cisapride was not effective for use in babies, and that effective is different than safe. If it is not effective it should not be used.

The video shows examples of the high pressure and marketing techniques that the drug companies use to promote the drugs such as dinners, shows, and free samples. The publication information shows a bias to positive results.

The National Film Board combines pictures, interviews, case studies, lawyers, etc. to produce a powerful video. They not only identify what they see as the problem but offer some solutions. France has people trained to monitor new drugs and look for problems rather than wait for problems to perhaps be diagnosed. The video ends with the conclusion of the Vanessa Young case wherein the jury had a number of recommendations which the lawyer for the drug company said would be considered. Janssen declined to comment over the three months of the taping of the video.

The video is interesting and easy to watch for the general public with a non-medical background. There are a good variety of locations and presentations so that the flow of information is coherent and "watchable." Although there is a pre-determined bias, the material is presented in a fair way which brings out a variety of sides to each issue. The purpose is not on blaming but on finding a safe solution for society. Language and content are very appropriate to the audience. This video is suitable for high school students and would be a good addition to courses such as Law, Ethics, and Social Sciences or any course dealing with controversial issues. It would also be useful for adults interested in the subject and the general public's concern about problems of prescription drugs.

by Deborah Mervold

[Live42Day]

Virginia Lee wrote:

In 1993, Cisapride was approved although there was some evidence to support prolonged QT interval in the heart. The FDA had cases on file but failed to consult its own experts. The ramifications were not well understood. In 1992, Health Canada had identified similar problems. One of the scientists interviewed said that there was "gold standard" evidence to show that the drug caused the problems. The FDA said that the benefits to thousands of people could not be delayed because of ten cardiac deaths. They further said that there was no evidence that Cisapride caused the deaths but only that it was possible that Cisapride was the cause. Mr. Young states that this drug is routinely prescribed for non-life threatening illnesses, and his daughter's death was predictable and preventable.
In the court case results which are shown to end the video, Janssen, the Drug Company, and Health Canada communicated their information about the drug to each other prior to a report aired on the television show Market Place, four months before Vanessa's death. Terence Young says that, if he had seen the program, his daughter would still be alive.
Another concern that is mentioned is drug and food interaction. Scientists discovered that Cisapride interacts negatively with grapefruit. It took the company five years to issue the warning to doctors. Another problem is in the "Dear Doctor" letters which are sent out by the drug companies. Many doctors fail to read the information completely or to take action on the information and rely on drug representatives for their information. Doctors also prescribe the drug "off label." In this way, drugs approved for adult use are given to infants with sometimes disastrous results. With Cisapride, four letters were sent over a five year period, but doctors were still prescribing the drug for babies that were spitting up. Because of industry regulation, the FDA cannot go public with warnings. Dr. Billy Bourke said that Cisapride was not effective for use in babies, and that effective is different than safe. If it is not effective it should not be used.
The video shows examples of the high pressure and marketing techniques that the drug companies use to promote the drugs such as dinners, shows, and free samples. The publication information shows a bias to positive results.
The National Film Board combines pictures, interviews, case studies, lawyers, etc. to produce a powerful video. They not only identify what they see as the problem but offer some solutions. France has people trained to monitor new drugs and look for problems rather than wait for problems to perhaps be diagnosed. The video ends with the conclusion of the Vanessa Young case wherein the jury had a number of recommendations which the lawyer for the drug company said would be considered. Janssen declined to comment over the three months of the taping of the video....

Ginny, did you get permission from the Manitoba Library Association to post this information? I wouldn't want you to be found guilty of copyright infringement.

http://umanitoba.ca/outreach/cm/vol9/no14/dru...

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Best regards

[Virginia Lee]

Live42Day wrote:

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Now we all know that any good Christian would not post on a Chantix public message board about how she gets extreme headaches when she has an orgasm, right Virginia? By the way Virgina, how is that little problem of yours going?

Did you forget this post Stevo? I did not. Your intent was clearly not one of love or understanding. I can think of several retorts to make back but I chose to make an educated response to your snide little question. I detest people who will try to use religion to force social acceptance of "their" belief. That is mental rape and you do not have the tool to complete the task. If Jesus was so narrow minded in his views there would not BE a chrisitian bible.

[Virginia Lee]

monkey wrote:

<quoted text> I have been off Chantix for about 11 months I never took Chantix very long only 3 to 3 & 1/2 weeks then tapered off. Everything you say has a hint of sarcasm and derision, go help youself.
I don't need nor do I want your brand of help.

Deb proud smoker aka monkey. Was this some kind of joke? Did you already know the factor in the monkey eating the face off the friend story?

http://houston.craigslist.org/pol/1039458496....

The chimp in the news was given XANAX in tea. Please keep taking yours, withdrawals from these types of meds DO cause harm to others. In this case everyone looses, well except the doctors and pharma they are making money hand over fist and have been using animals for testing their trade for years. I understand you also work in a pharmacy. Go push your drugs and attitude elsewhere!

Psst, that was a rhetorical question.

[Teacher Maude]

Virginia Lee wrote:

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Did you forget this post Stevo? I did not. Your intent was clearly not one of love or understanding. I can think of several retorts to make back but I chose to make an educated response to your snide little question. I detest people who will try to use religion to force social acceptance of "their" belief. That is mental rape and you do not have the tool to complete the task. If Jesus was so narrow minded in his views there would not BE a chrisitian bible.

Ginny you are so right. With just a little bit of reading it's easy to tell that Steve aka Live42day is not all together there and lies like the rest of his quit buddies.

Pay no attention to the little man.

The real Teacher Maude.
The other is a FRAUD!

[Live42Day]

Virginia Lee wrote:

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Did you forget this post Stevo? I did not. Your intent was clearly not one of love or understanding. I can think of several retorts to make back but I chose to make an educated response to your snide little question. I detest people who will try to use religion to force social acceptance of "their" belief. That is mental rape and you do not have the tool to complete the task. If Jesus was so narrow minded in his views there would not BE a chrisitian bible.

Ginny, I feel honored that you saved my post asking you how your little problem was going. As usual, you take things out of context though. I rarely use "religion" to force social acceptance so you are way off the mark there. If I'm not mistaken (and frankly I don't have the time nor care to research this so I am sure you will be gracious enough to correct me, if I am wrong), my post to you was made in response to a previous post that referenced religion. By the way, your response back to my post was a good one and I do believe that I acknowledged that fact, at the time.

Mental rape? OMG, you sure like to over-dramatize just about everything, don't you? I can honestly say that I don't recall ever mentally raping anyone. If you don't like my opinion here, on topix, then don't read it. It won't hurt my feelings. Honest!~ I certainly don't want to be accused of taking your mental virgin-ity!~

By the way (not that I want to take you up on your suggestion), what 'tool' works best to accomplish this task? Would a regular ordinary garden hose work? Just curious!~

Send my best to Bobby. I sure do miss his positive, uplifting posts here on topix. Now, you must excuse me, while I remove my tongue from my cheek...

Carpe diem & KTQ!~