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#630
Dec 11, 2007
 
Martin_Tallinn wrote:
Virginia Lee,
I just read your post on the other thread in response to Redsox, but choose to respond here because this is "kind of" your thread.
You and I will probably never see eye to eye and that is ok with me.
I will post if I feel I have something to contribute, to you or others, here or anywhere else because I believe I have that right, just as you do or anybody else.
I agree 100% with your response to Redsox and I do believe you intentions are good and that you want to help people.
I do believe you had a hard time with the Chantix and I do believe there are a lot of side effects and that serious ones need to be reported to the proper authorities.
I just don't like to see it become a witch hunt, that's all.
We had our argument, said some nasty things to each other which was of no benefit to any of the other posters.
This all escalated for me when some people started to dig this up and you "jumped on the bandwagon".
I apologize to you for any comments I made in the past that may have offended you.
I hope by doing this that all threads can become "normal" again.
And you are right, I am who I say I am.
I wish you good luck with your recovery!
Martin
Thank you for being man enough to apologize for your offensive remarks. I hope that all posters will try to be kinder to each other. Every one is intitled to there opinion but there are good ways and bad ways to express an opinion.

I hope you apology will help all poster to realize that their input should be to help and not to harm others. The Golden Rule is the way all posters should try to express their opinions.

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Dec 11, 2007
 
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Thanks for the reply. I don't know what I should do, I am terrified of the Chantix and don't really want to take another "brain screwing" drug like Wellbutrin/Zyban. I just want some help with the cravings which are back and I really don't want to smoke again. Dr. has also suggested low dose Xanax to help and basically leaving it up to me. He knows how I feel about Chantix. I just wish I felt more confident about being able to fight the cravings alone.
Have you thought about NRT patch, gum or lonzengers? Those worked well for me too in order to break the "having a cig. in your hand habit". Not sure if that will help since the chantix does block that nocitine receptor. Smoking will not help either so don't go back there. I don't have much faith in Xanax from what I have now read but I did have a lady at the bank tell me to not ever start taking them as well as Brandon mentioned that you can become dependent on them as well. I don't believe Valium is addictive or something your brain or body will crave sinc eI have usually only used that med for muscle relaxant properties. See if your doctor will give you those in stead, it doesn't count as a mental health drug like Xanax does record wise. Basically you need to try to lower things like sugar and caffine and take some vit. B6 as B alone can cause you to get more nervous. Do anything you can think of that will relax you, I also read Holy Basil is good but not tried that myself yet. You are now going through nicotine withdrawal is all. In a few days you will be much better, just try and not be nervous. Use the fact you DON'T want to smoke to pull you through! Carrots helped me too. You might also make sure you potassium is okay. Banannas, raisins, yogurt are all good sources of that. Keep telling yourself you can get through this for today! Do that each day repeatedly until you convince yourself!

Think of it like a headache! Don't take two asprin just take your head to a different place then where the pain is until you forget about it because your brain is busy on a pleasant task. Might sound strange but it does work. Don't think about the headache and it will go away (unless it is a chantix one then take 3 asprin, LOL).

Laugh off those craving girl you can do it!

Here are some sites you can read on other ways to stay smoke free.

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/tobacco/

http://www.topconsumerreviews.com/stop-smokin...

http://www.quitsmokingonline.com/

http://www.nicrx.com/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi...

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/smokingces...

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Dec 11, 2007
 
Koo22 wrote:
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Thanks for the reply. I don't know what I should do, I am terrified of the Chantix and don't really want to take another "brain screwing" drug like Wellbutrin/Zyban. I just want some help with the cravings which are back and I really don't want to smoke again. Dr. has also suggested low dose Xanax to help and basically leaving it up to me. He knows how I feel about Chantix. I just wish I felt more confident about being able to fight the cravings alone.
I may be wrong about what you are actually suffering the withdrawal of Koo22.

It could be chantix is a theory of mine. Your brain is looking for an ahhh haaa. With the receptora all busy from chantix that's hard to get around. Many of the same tools you use for smoking cessation can help, they sure won't hurt. In other words, you can drink a little to relax if that works, you won't go crazy from one glass of wine or one beer or one mixed drink. Do have someone with you to help gauge your reaction to drinking though since that does cause violence in some people. I am a silly drunk if I get there without throwing up, LOL. Meditation is always a good way to slow down your racing heart and relax those body parts and clear your head. Take my theory for a grain of salt or try it and if it works keep doing it, just please chase the fears away. Think positive but do keep a check on your blood pressure and pulse rate. If either gets racy, reach out to someone near and ask for help to relax, catch your breath and address whatever is on your mind. Also check with your doctor to make sure you are medically monitored just not drugged up. I don't think another pill or bad habit is the answer if both guesses are wrong.

Oh and HUGS HUGS and more HUGS! Lots of them that was the best thing that healed me!

Here is one for you ---O---
Lou

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#634
Dec 11, 2007
 
Koo22,
I just wanted to interject something. During one of my attempted quits while I was in the hospital, I used something from a homeopath that worked very well for cravings. In fact I am going to go back and get some once I get the major smoking out of the way. Problem is I can't remember what is was called but I'm sure if you ask one, they can give you something. I was surprised how quickly it took the cravings away. It was in a little brown dropper bottle and it was all natural. I put a few drops under my tongue and they were gone, just that quick. Just a thought since you too don't like the whole 'let's give you yet another pill' concept that Drs are doing. If you are interested let me know and I'll find out what it's called.

Also, for any of you interested, I had ANOTHER Dr tell me today that he believes the problems I am having with the memory,confusion, jitters and fast heart rate are from the chantix. He was telling me that even though the chantix is out of my system, he thinks that it could have caused problems that obviously linger long after the drug is gone. In fact, he won't prescribe Chantix because it is too new. Now THAT is refreshing! to say the least!

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#635
Dec 11, 2007
 
PAT - AKA TRISH wrote:
Hey Virginia: In association with your documentation to the FDA, do you hear anything back from them? Forgive me, but I can't remember: have you also communicated w/ Pfizer? If so, have you heard from them?
I have only ended up cussing Pfizer but usually hanging up before I do, LOL! The last two times I called them they hung up on me. I choose to remain anon. when speaking with them and also block my phone number. My documents Pfizer will see on discovery. I did report it to the FDA though. My health records are mine as per HIPAA!
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#637
Dec 13, 2007
 
Smoker for 20 years. Took Chantix for only 2 weeks and quit smoking after the first week. Stopped taking the Chantix right away...no weaning. I don't like taking meds. That was 6 months ago - have not felt normal since. Memory problems, depression, cloudiness, "in-a-fog" most of the time. Odd joint pains. Irritability beyond belief. I can't imagine these are withdrawal symptoms of nicotine, not after this long.
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#639
Dec 13, 2007
 
Virginia Lee wrote:
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Have you thought about NRT patch, gum or lonzengers? Those worked well for me too in order to break the "having a cig. in your hand habit". Not sure if that will help since the chantix does block that nocitine receptor. Smoking will not help either so don't go back there. I don't have much faith in Xanax from what I have now read but I did have a lady at the bank tell me to not ever start taking them as well as Brandon mentioned that you can become dependent on them as well. I don't believe Valium is addictive or something your brain or body will crave sinc eI have usually only used that med for muscle relaxant properties. See if your doctor will give you those in stead, it doesn't count as a mental health drug like Xanax does record wise. Basically you need to try to lower things like sugar and caffine and take some vit. B6 as B alone can cause you to get more nervous. Do anything you can think of that will relax you, I also read Holy Basil is good but not tried that myself yet. You are now going through nicotine withdrawal is all. In a few days you will be much better, just try and not be nervous. Use the fact you DON'T want to smoke to pull you through! Carrots helped me too. You might also make sure you potassium is okay. Banannas, raisins, yogurt are all good sources of that. Keep telling yourself you can get through this for today! Do that each day repeatedly until you convince yourself!
Think of it like a headache! Don't take two asprin just take your head to a different place then where the pain is until you forget about it because your brain is busy on a pleasant task. Might sound strange but it does work. Don't think about the headache and it will go away (unless it is a chantix one then take 3 asprin, LOL).
Laugh off those craving girl you can do it!
Here are some sites you can read on other ways to stay smoke free.
http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/tobacco/
http://www.topconsumerreviews.com/stop-smokin...
http://www.quitsmokingonline.com/
http://www.nicrx.com/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi...
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/smokingces...
I think you might have meant something other than Valium in your recommendation. Valium is a tranquilizer/mild sedative, not a muscle relaxant - generally prescribed for nervousness or mild anxiety. And it can be highly addictive.
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#641
Dec 13, 2007
 
I was going to take this. Thank goodness I didn't there are over 5000 complaints about it. Look under chantix complaint's. People have all kinds of bad effects and will never be the same. Some 55 at least have killed themselfves. And have all kinds of problems happen after taking even for a short time. Please don't take this until you read what they have to say.
Good Luck!!

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Dec 13, 2007
 
Jeff B wrote:
Smoker for 20 years. Took Chantix for only 2 weeks and quit smoking after the first week. Stopped taking the Chantix right away...no weaning. I don't like taking meds. That was 6 months ago - have not felt normal since. Memory problems, depression, cloudiness, "in-a-fog" most of the time. Odd joint pains. Irritability beyond belief. I can't imagine these are withdrawal symptoms of nicotine, not after this long.
Hi Jeff,

Sorry to hear of your health issues. I agree they are not side effects of nicotine withdrawal. There is no telling what lingering effects such a brain altering chemical as chantix can leave us with or how lasting them may be. Many people do not like taking medication, me included, now more then ever. Chantix is a new type of drug and there was not a long testing period before FDA approval. Since the FDA is looking into the reports of side effects, the best thing you can do is report what you feel are your lingering health issues from taking chantix.

Here is the link to do so if you want your voice to be heard.

http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/feedback.htm

Hoping you feel better knowing someone will listen and offer ways to address your concerns. May you have an improvement and a happy holiday season. Best Wishes! Please post any comments and concerns you have here or any place else you desire. Last I checked the USA was a free country, LOL. Remember laughter is the best medicine!

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Dec 13, 2007
 
stacy wrote:
I was going to take this. Thank goodness I didn't there are over 5000 complaints about it. Look under chantix complaint's. People have all kinds of bad effects and will never be the same. Some 55 at least have killed themselfves. And have all kinds of problems happen after taking even for a short time. Please don't take this until you read what they have to say.
Good Luck!!
Thanks for posting Stacy. I hope you will find another meathod to stop smoking but I wish I had been so wise as to research this drug before taking it. One nurse in the ER said after seeing what happened to me, she had changed her mind about taking it too. The news segment about Carter had just aired a few days after my experience.

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Christine wrote:
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I think you might have meant something other than Valium in your recommendation. Valium is a tranquilizer/mild sedative, not a muscle relaxant - generally prescribed for nervousness or mild anxiety. And it can be highly addictive.
It is a relaxant and I have used it to control "muscle spasms" that's one of the difficulties with a connective tissue disorder. You can only become addicted to it if you take it a lot over many years. So are you saying the ER doctor shouldn't have given it to me? Or that the one that used it to relax me for a spinal epidural shouldn't have either? Relax dear you only have minor side effects from chantix and you are mistaken I did mean Valium. Valium is used also for tension and in my case muscle tension. I do recommend people talk to their doctors and it's not my job to be a doctor. Have a happy holiday and please do not be so judgemental in your postings to people who are suffering from the use of chantix.

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Dec 13, 2007
 
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Stacy - The other 97% of the many millions of people who have taken Chantix and quit smoking have had NO problems, at least, not any major problems.
Did you realize that millions of people have quit smoking using Chantix? Yes, millions! The 5,000 people who have had problems might have had nicotine withdrawal symptoms and blamed them on Chantix, not knowing any better.
And who knows about those who have committed suicide? Don't you think some of those people would have done it anyway for one reason or the other or if they had quit smoking using the cold turkey method?
Do you think your comments and questions are appropriate? This is the thread for people looking for answers to explain their issues about chantix side effects. No one has nicotine withdrawals for 5-6 months. I would be happy to review any sources that state otherwise.

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Dec 13, 2007
 
Martin_Tallinn wrote:
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Virginia Lee,
We had our problems that is for sure!
I do not agree with your method but I do think you are a resource to those that have severe side effects.
After all the energy you put in, do not give up now!
Sorry to see you are feeling down, hope it will pass.
All the best!
Thanks Martin! I did have surgery today and all went well. It is hard to deal with all the people that want to trample on the "few" who are the unlucky one who suffer side effects. Not sure by what you think is my method, I do try to post links to support my statements. Yes, when I first started posting I didn't make as much sense as I do now because I have more of my senses back. My experience scared me. Sorry if I scared some posters here. My intent was to warn others not pick fights. Hope you have a pleasant and joyous holiday. Peace!
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Dec 14, 2007
 
I read somewhere...can't find it now, of someone that had an allergic reaction. Anyone remember the thread? I have woke today covered in hives..going to get a shot at 10. I'm going to be pissed if I'm allergic to Chantix...I've only been taking it for a month...and I want to continue. If anyone remembers the thread..please let me know..I thought I would read it while I was waiting for my appointment. Thank you.
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Dec 14, 2007
 
Magnolia wrote:
I read somewhere...can't find it now, of someone that had an allergic reaction. Anyone remember the thread? I have woke today covered in hives..going to get a shot at 10. I'm going to be pissed if I'm allergic to Chantix...I've only been taking it for a month...and I want to continue. If anyone remembers the thread..please let me know..I thought I would read it while I was waiting for my appointment. Thank you.
Yes, I remember reading that post. Sorry to hear you are allergic to something. Hives are no fun as I well know but please check with your doctor and stop taking chantix if you feel that is the case of the hives. Any throat of mouth swelling along with it?

A skin allergic reaction is uncomfortable but a more sever reaction like eyes, lips, and throat swelling is very dangerous. I am sorry you have hives. Is there anything else besides the chantix you have taken or come in contact with, or new foods or skin care products? I will see if I can find the post but if memory serves me correctly, the post I recall was a rash which is less sever then hives. Hope they are small and not giant ones. Cold compresses, ice have always helped my hives. Good Luck and I hope they clear up.
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#653
Dec 14, 2007
 
They look like giant mosquito bites....reminds me of my allergic reaction I had when I found out I was allergic to Keflex 20 years ago. I hadn't even taken my morning Chantix pill yet. People at work probably think I have cootie bugs!
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Dec 14, 2007
 
Magnolia wrote:
They look like giant mosquito bites....reminds me of my allergic reaction I had when I found out I was allergic to Keflex 20 years ago. I hadn't even taken my morning Chantix pill yet. People at work probably think I have cootie bugs!
I couldn't find the post about it but you already know the answer. I am allergic to keflex too. You are funny with the cootie bug comment, thanks for the laugh. I understand totally for I have felt that way too when I have hives like that.

How did your appointment go? Please be careful and make sure your family, friends and co-workers know to watch out for any other side effects that appear to be worse when coming off chantix. Good Luck and hoping you can stay smoke free but you know you need to stop taking chantix due to the hives.

You know ice and cold make the itching less intense. Yeah it hurts but not as bad as if you scratch the itch. When I get hives they are usually gone the next day leaving that area sore and more so if scratched. So sorry because I know you want to quit smoking and not have hives. Search for other stop smoking, smoking cessation and quit smoking for things to keep you quit. Let me know how it goes and thanks for posting your experience. Huga and ice pack.

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Dec 14, 2007
 
Bertha wrote:
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Stacy - The other 97% of the many millions of people who have taken Chantix and quit smoking have had NO problems, at least, not any major problems.
Did you realize that millions of people have quit smoking using Chantix? Yes, millions! The 5,000 people who have had problems might have had nicotine withdrawal symptoms and blamed them on Chantix, not knowing any better.
And who knows about those who have committed suicide? Don't you think some of those people would have done it anyway for one reason or the other or if they had quit smoking using the cold turkey method?
If you read the article it says there were over 5000 complaints in just one week!!!

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Dec 14, 2007
 
Bertha wrote:
<quoted text> It seems you're only here to argue with people, which also seems to be the same reason why glowplug and her aliases of martin and joeseph are here.
Hmmm .... Glowplug or Mike? Or ...

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Dec 14, 2007
 
gch123 wrote:
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If you read the article it says there were over 5000 complaints in just one week!!!
Here is some interesting reading on brain nerotransmitters. Could you look it over and let me know what you think? Medical jargon is not my thing. Thanks and I hope you are doing well.

http://www.enotalone.com/article/4114.html

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