Study: 6M to be fined under new healt...

Study: 6M to be fined under new health law

There are 65 comments on the www.cbsnews.com story from Sep 20, 2012, titled Study: 6M to be fined under new health law. In it, www.cbsnews.com reports that:

Congressional budget analysts are now estimating that nearly 6 million Americans - most of them in the middle class - will have to pay a tax penalty for not getting health insurance once President Barack Obama's health care law is fully in place.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.cbsnews.com.

Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#41 Sep 20, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
And it's a tax long over due, Pay your Freight for once! Stop with the Free Riding.
Obama has got a huge problem... if the MSM hold him accountable.

How will he resolve promising not to raise taxes 'one thin dime', but turns out he did?

Oh wait... the MSM won't ask.

Never mind.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#42 Sep 20, 2012
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahh... change the subject I see.
it's a tax. Obama said no taxes for those making less than $250k.
Obama lies,middle class dies.....
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#43 Sep 20, 2012
Oh, Malarkey....... Southern States Have Highest Percentages of "Nonpayers"

One of the most reported topics during the latest tax filing season was the record number of Americans who filed an income tax return but had no income tax liability after taking their credits and deductions.

According to the latest IRS figures for 2008, a record 52 million filers—36 percent of the 143 million who filed a tax return—had no tax liability because their credits and deductions reduced their liability to zero. Indeed, tax credits such as the child tax credit and earned income tax credit have become so generous that a family of four earning up to about $52,000 can expect to have their income tax liability erased entirely

1. Mississippi
2. Georgia
3. Arkansas
4. New Mexico
5. Alabama
6. South Carolina
7. Louisiana
8. Texas
9. Florida
10. Utah

Top 10 States who's resident pay no taxes an receive poverty payments in the form of income tax returns.
Free is free wrote:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but a good read of the Cantor Report examines all Federal payments to "state and local governments; federal employee salaries and wages; individuals (Social Security retirement and disability payments); government procurement and contractors; and, grants and other distributions"
Some of the states you call 'bum states' have huge Federal payrolls (eg: New Mexico). You know why? Because we house your bomb factories, atomic waste dumps, atomic testing sites and other nasty carcinogen-bearing enterprises you easterners don't want to be around. How very NIMBY of you not to produce, test and discard these devices in your own backyards.
So, please refrain from implying that these so-called "bum states" are actually welfare queens; that's hardly the case.
<quoted text>

“AVAUNCEZ!!”

Since: Aug 07

Eldora Iowa

#44 Sep 20, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>60% of the Employees can not afford the premiums to participate in the plan.
They should probably get rid of their cell phones and shut off the cable then
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#45 Sep 20, 2012
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama has got a huge problem... if the MSM hold him accountable.
How will he resolve promising not to raise taxes 'one thin dime', but turns out he did?
Oh wait... the MSM won't ask.
Never mind.
That's not going to harm the resident in these Red States, the Residents living in these States don't pay income taxes to begin with

1. Mississippi
2. Georgia
3. Arkansas
4. New Mexico
5. Alabama
6. South Carolina
7. Louisiana
8. Texas
9. Florida
10. Utah

Notice all of them are States with a huge population of Republicans at the Base of the Party?

These are the States and the Citizens that Romney shined the light on this week.......... Thank the Bishop for bringing this to the nation's attention.

This is where the Sponges sucking the life out of the Nation reside....... ROFLMAO
drink The hivE

New York, NY

#46 Sep 20, 2012
I Don't Know If I Would Considered Them True Supernatural Experience' As U Were Under The
Influence Of Mind Altering Drug' But It I Feel U...



http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Here we go!”

Since: Feb 07

Tampa, FL

#47 Sep 20, 2012
right- going back to that money management thing.
sailor310 wrote:
<quoted text>
They should probably get rid of their cell phones and shut off the cable then
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#48 Sep 20, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not going to harm the resident in these Red States,
Gee... how many times can you change the subject?

"If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things."
--Barack Obama, 2008

Never mind.

“Here we go!”

Since: Feb 07

Tampa, FL

#49 Sep 20, 2012
So Mothra, not to change the subject, but I hear that the 9th Circuit is considering an injunction against the 'show your papers' law that was already decided by the SCOTUS- is this for real?
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee... how many times can you change the subject?
"If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things."
--Barack Obama, 2008
Never mind.

“Here we go!”

Since: Feb 07

Tampa, FL

#50 Sep 20, 2012
I'm only asking you because your ISP says your in Phoenix.
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#51 Sep 20, 2012
Nonpayers of Federal Income Taxes by State
Calendar Year 2008
State
Total Filers
Filers with
a Tax Liability
Filers with No Tax Liability
Percentage
of Filers with
No Liability
Rank (Most to Least)
US Total
143,490,468
95,520,933
51,045,911
36%
Nonpayers of Federal Income Taxes by State

Percentage of Tax Filers with No Liability

Nine of the ten states with the largest percentage of nonpayers are in the South and Southwest. In Mississippi, 45 percent of federal tax returns remit nothing or receive money with their federal tax returns; that is the highest percentage nationally. Georgia is next at 41 percent, followed by Arkansas at 41 percent, and Alabama, South Carolina, and New Mexico at 40 percent.

1. Mississippi 45%
2.Georgia 41%
3.Arkansas...41%
4.New Mexico...40%
5.Alabama...40%
6.South Carolina...40%
7.Louisiana...39%
8.Texas...39%
9.Florida...39%
10.Idaho...39%
11.Tennessee...39%
12.North Carolina...38%
13.Utah...38%
14.Arizona...37%
15.Kentucky... 37%
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#52 Sep 21, 2012
Eron wrote:
So Mothra, not to change the subject, but I hear that the 9th Circuit is considering an injunction against the 'show your papers' law that was already decided by the SCOTUS- is this for real?
<quoted text>
An injunction?

First I've heard of it.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#53 Sep 21, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
That is, 6 Million Freeloaders who will now pay a small portiion of what they cost the rest of us.
The payment in lieu should be $6,000, not $1,200.
Exactly. I'm tired of shouldering the burden for these people who run to the hospital every time they get a toe ache and never pay the bill or pay reduced prices because they refuse to get insurance.

OK, I'm with them on this because private insurance is very expensive; but with Obama's plan they'll be charged on a sliding scale and if many of them quite buying cigarettes and beer they can afford this insurance.

When you work in a hospital and you see the freeloaders day in and day out, you get disgusted. These are people who are NOT poor. Under the new plan they can afford a few bucks a month to insurance their health. And if they refuse, then hell yes, fine them.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#54 Sep 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Nonpayers of Federal Income Taxes by State
Calendar Year 2008
State
Total Filers
Filers with
a Tax Liability
Filers with No Tax Liability
Percentage
of Filers with
No Liability
Rank (Most to Least)
US Total
143,490,468
95,520,933
51,045,911
36%
Nonpayers of Federal Income Taxes by State
Percentage of Tax Filers with No Liability
Nine of the ten states with the largest percentage of nonpayers are in the South and Southwest. In Mississippi, 45 percent of federal tax returns remit nothing or receive money with their federal tax returns; that is the highest percentage nationally. Georgia is next at 41 percent, followed by Arkansas at 41 percent, and Alabama, South Carolina, and New Mexico at 40 percent.
1. Mississippi 45%
2.Georgia 41%
3.Arkansas...41%
4.New Mexico...40%
5.Alabama...40%
6.South Carolina...40%
7.Louisiana...39%
8.Texas...39%
9.Florida...39%
10.Idaho...39%
11.Tennessee...39%
12.North Carolina...38%
13.Utah...38%
14.Arizona...37%
15.Kentucky... 37%
Eric: Many of the states you've named have very large numbers of retirees. These are people living on social security. Would you suggest we take more of their measly income away?

There are also high numbers of military families in many of these states. Between the poor pay they get and the tax credits they can use, many of them probably pay very little in taxes. Shall we punish, them as well?

Why is our focus always on the little person? The guy who barely makes enough to get by.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#55 Sep 21, 2012
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Obama lies,middle class dies.....
Just wait until Romney takes away the measly tax deductions middle class people get, as well as their Social Security and Medicare. You think the middle class has it bad now...you ain't seen nothing.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#56 Sep 21, 2012
gossamer wrote:
<quoted text>
List those welfare states.
You will find them in Figure 1.1 and 1,2...
http://martincantor.com/files/FederalbudgetAn...

They are the states without a MINUS SIGN in the per-capita column.

The states with MINUS SIGN (which indicates how mush less they get back compared to what they send in to the Treasury,) are the states which suppoprt these welfare states.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#57 Sep 21, 2012
see the light wrote:
<quoted text>Really? How are you gonna make the poor and Illegal Mexicans pay?
The poor should pay for health insurance, as they can afford it,in my opinion, yes.

The illegals should be made to register with the INS before they get aid of any type, in my opinion.

But that is not the law. The poor are subsidized; and the illegals are tolerated, because they work cheap, and that is part of the class war on the middle class.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#58 Sep 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Nonpayers of Federal Income Taxes by State
Calendar Year 2008
State
Total Filers
Filers with
a Tax Liability
Filers with No Tax Liability
Percentage
of Filers with
No Liability
Rank (Most to Least)
US Total
143,490,468
95,520,933
51,045,911
36%
Nonpayers of Federal Income Taxes by State
Percentage of Tax Filers with No Liability
Nine of the ten states with the largest percentage of nonpayers are in the South and Southwest. In Mississippi, 45 percent of federal tax returns remit nothing or receive money with their federal tax returns; that is the highest percentage nationally. Georgia is next at 41 percent, followed by Arkansas at 41 percent, and Alabama, South Carolina, and New Mexico at 40 percent.
1. Mississippi 45%
2.Georgia 41%
3.Arkansas...41%
4.New Mexico...40%
5.Alabama...40%
6.South Carolina...40%
7.Louisiana...39%
8.Texas...39%
9.Florida...39%
10.Idaho...39%
11.Tennessee...39%
12.North Carolina...38%
13.Utah...38%
14.Arizona...37%
15.Kentucky... 37%
Interesting, that this list dovetails with Prof. Canror's report,(which is itself a continuation of the report once Done bu Senator Pat Moynahan, with Harvard University.)

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#59 Sep 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Nonpayers of Federal Income Taxes by State
Calendar Year 2008
State
Total Filers
Filers with
a Tax Liability
Filers with No Tax Liability
Percentage
of Filers with
No Liability
Rank (Most to Least)
US Total
143,490,468
95,520,933
51,045,911
36%
Nonpayers of Federal Income Taxes by State
Percentage of Tax Filers with No Liability
Nine of the ten states with the largest percentage of nonpayers are in the South and Southwest. In Mississippi, 45 percent of federal tax returns remit nothing or receive money with their federal tax returns; that is the highest percentage nationally. Georgia is next at 41 percent, followed by Arkansas at 41 percent, and Alabama, South Carolina, and New Mexico at 40 percent.
1. Mississippi 45%
2.Georgia 41%
3.Arkansas...41%
4.New Mexico...40%
5.Alabama...40%
6.South Carolina...40%
7.Louisiana...39%
8.Texas...39%
9.Florida...39%
10.Idaho...39%
11.Tennessee...39%
12.North Carolina...38%
13.Utah...38%
14.Arizona...37%
15.Kentucky... 37%
OOPS that is, Professor Cantor:
http://martincantor.com/files/FederalbudgetAn...
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#60 Sep 21, 2012
Those numbers reflect the portion of workers who pay no income taxes but yet receive Tax Returns..... Retirees are not included.....

However, I'm sure you re-read my post and now understand that.... ROFLMAO

Good try!
PayThat CEO wrote:
<quoted text>
Eric: Many of the states you've named have very large numbers of retirees. These are people living on social security. Would you suggest we take more of their measly income away?
There are also high numbers of military families in many of these states. Between the poor pay they get and the tax credits they can use, many of them probably pay very little in taxes. Shall we punish, them as well?
Why is our focus always on the little person? The guy who barely makes enough to get by.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Healthcare Law Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Budget, then can go home, legislators say Sun Gilliham and Dism... 2
News Over 50 and Looking for Love? New Dating Site f... (Dec '12) Sun Benson 43
News Abortion fight stalls Obama nominee Apr 29 goonsquad 17
News California Fights To Allow Undocumented Immigra... Apr 27 ima-Ilis Myka Ash... 3
Has anyone heard of Pfizer's Chantix (Dec '06) Apr 24 medview 70,576
News Chaneys, clinic convicted in fraud scheme Apr 23 Power Play 2
News Judge Orders Louisiana to Continue Funding Plan... (Oct '15) Apr 22 private guy 62
More from around the web