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There are 70 comments on the The Washington Post story from Sep 26, 2012, titled glenn_kessler. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

"Over the last four years, the deficit has gone up, but 90 percent of that is as a consequence of two wars that weren't paid for, as a consequence of tax cuts that weren't paid for, a prescription drug plan that was not paid for, and then the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

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“I'd rather be snowmobiling”

Since: Oct 07

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#2 Sep 26, 2012
No no no, you can't tell people the truth and get them to believe it. It's just not catchy enough. Besides, every good Frightwinger knows the economy was a gilded bed of roses untill Jan. 20th, 2008 when the US economy suddenly imploded under the stress of inaugurating a Democrat to the office of POTUS.
Remember, the financial history of the US starts in 2008, don't go snooping around asking awkward questions about some fictional "previous administration"
Its all Obamas fault, Ryan/Rmoney'16!

“I'd rather be snowmobiling”

Since: Oct 07

8120'

#3 Sep 26, 2012
Sorry, 2009. Time flies when you're having fun!

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#4 Sep 26, 2012
your attempts to say 90% of the deficit is not your fault garners four pinnochios. face the music el presidente! again, will not accept responsibility. indication of poor leadership.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Sep 26, 2012
As usual, the Blamer In Chief is taking NO responsibility for anything. Even if we discount 2009, under the silly rule of OBAMAMATH, this president presents a ludicrous position. The deficit under George Bush, in 2008, was 3.2% of GDP, even if we throw out the entire budget year of 2009 (The last budget we have had BTW) Obama AVERAGED a Federal Spending of 23.8% GDP for his entire term, add in the 2009 budget, which he could have changed, and we have Federal Spending at 24.1%. What Obama fails to understand it that every president "inherits" the economy of all past presidents and it is his JOB to handle it, not whine and blame everything and everyone else for the problem. Furthermore, Mr. Obama ADDED ONE TRILLION DOLLARS a year to the deficit, that was NOT any previous administrations fault, it was on his say so that the money was borrowed and spent.

Factually, what he said was not true either. He neither inherited the largest deficit in history (1943 30.3% gearing up for WWII) NOR did he win the 1944 election. Is this just more spin by the master of spin?

The complaint that the tax cuts caused this is, again, just more spin by the left, by 2006 and 2007 those tax rates were producing well over 18% of GDP, pretty near to historic norms. AND, each and every one of the "problems" he lays at President Bush's feet, HE VOTED FOR AND APPROVED OF! His continual lament of "recession" is also unfounded, according to HIM the recession ended in 2009, in June of that year. What's happened since then? Well, tons of new rules and regulations costing business money, money they would have used to expand and hire new employees, his spending has increased $1 Trillion Plus each year and he himself sent in the surge in Afghanistan. HIS policies have contributed to the slowest recovery in history and revenues have remained below 16%. It's lack of leadership skills and the huge cost of Obamacare that is running the economy now, no matter how willingly the ever compliant main stream media tries to sugarcoat it and allow this failed president to continue to not take any responsibility for HIS ACTIONS in the past 4 years.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#6 Sep 26, 2012
twostroketerror wrote:
No no no, you can't tell people the truth and get them to believe it. It's just not catchy enough. Besides, every good Frightwinger knows the economy was a gilded bed of roses untill Jan. 20th, 2008 when the US economy suddenly imploded under the stress of inaugurating a Democrat to the office of POTUS.
Remember, the financial history of the US starts in 2008, don't go snooping around asking awkward questions about some fictional "previous administration"
Its all Obamas fault, Ryan/Rmoney'16!
Yawn......should have read the whole article........Obama is a liar.

The Pinocchio Test

We are not trying to make excuses for the fiscal excesses of the Bush administration — and Congress — in the last decade. But at some point, a president has to take ownership of his own actions.

Obama certainly inherited an economic mess, and that accounts for a large part of the deficit. But Obama pushed for spending increases and tax cuts that also have contributed in important ways to the nation’s fiscal deterioration. He certainly could argue that these were necessary and important steps to take, but he can’t blithely suggest that 90 percent of the current deficit “is as a consequence” of his predecessor’s policies — and not his own.

As for the citing of the discredited MarketWatch column, we have repeatedly urged the administration to rely on estimates from official government agencies, such as the White House budget office. It is astonishing to see the president repeat this faulty claim once again, as if it were an established fact.
Responsibility

Redwood City, CA

#7 Sep 26, 2012
GoodNewz wrote:
four pinnochios. face
Politifact rated Romney's ad “pants-on-fire.” The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler gave it four Pinocchios.
Responsibility

Redwood City, CA

#8 Sep 26, 2012
twostroketerror wrote:
No no no, you can't tell people the truth and get them to believe it. It's just not catchy enough. Besides, every good Frightwinger knows the economy was a gilded bed of roses untill Jan. 20th, 2008 when the US economy suddenly imploded under the stress of inaugurating a Democrat to the office of POTUS. Remember, the financial history of the US starts in 2008, don't go snooping around asking awkward questions about some fictional "previous administration"
The rewriting of history by the frightwingers and "don't blame Bush-baby" has taken on new meaning with the desperation of the republicannot fight for the White House.

Doesn't even count for spin anymore!

“I'd rather be snowmobiling”

Since: Oct 07

8120'

#9 Sep 26, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Yawn......should have read the whole article........Obama is a liar.
The Pinocchio Test
We are not trying to make excuses for the fiscal excesses of the Bush administration — and Congress — in the last decade. But at some point, a president has to take ownership of his own actions.
Obama certainly inherited an economic mess, and that accounts for a large part of the deficit. But Obama pushed for spending increases and tax cuts that also have contributed in important ways to the nation’s fiscal deterioration. He certainly could argue that these were necessary and important steps to take, but he can’t blithely suggest that 90 percent of the current deficit “is as a consequence” of his predecessor’s policies — and not his own.
As for the citing of the discredited MarketWatch column, we have repeatedly urged the administration to rely on estimates from official government agencies, such as the White House budget office. It is astonishing to see the president repeat this faulty claim once again, as if it were an established fact.
~this guy says it best~
Glenn, This isn't fact checking. This column is an opinion piece. I know at this stage that you don't know the difference but some day you will understand.
 
Example: "The 2009 fiscal year is especially hard because that budget year is so much of an amalgam of Bush and Obama policies; we essentially split the cost of the Troubled Asset Relief Program between the two of them." 
 
This comment ignores: 1) President Obama inherited the program (and the recession), 2) It is an explicit Bush/Cheney program. 
 
The opinion piece also ignores: President Obama inherited an unsustainable tax code (i.e. one that doubled the national debt even when the economy was growing). A tax code that Republicans refused to change to allow increased revenues (even though we are still at war). The Afghan war is part of the "Obama" spending. He inherited that war, one that had no exit strategy. By suggesting that that was his policy! You ate saying that a feasible stratagy was to cut and run.
Glenn, face it. You are either no good with numbers, or you are biased.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#11 Sep 26, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
The rewriting of history by the frightwingers and "don't blame Bush-baby" has taken on new meaning with the desperation of the republicannot fight for the White House.
Doesn't even count for spin anymore!
Bush attempted to arrest the decades-long liberal-induced decline of America.
Gravediggers

United States

#12 Sep 26, 2012
Obama = FAILURE TO LEAD

Obama = FAILURE TO UNITE AMERICANS AS PROMISED

Obama =$16 TRILLION DEBT

Obama = only showed up for 50% of Intelligence meetings...it's DOCUMENTED!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-bogu...

Obama = more time on GOLF COURSE, TV shows, Radio Shows, Hollyweird parties, Jayz nightclub instead of tending to be a PRESIDENT and FIXING our country

Obama = DEpendence on FOREIGN ENERGY in UNSTABLE countries in UNSTABLE regions of the world (that's real good idea-NOT!)

Obama = FAILURE to PROVIDE ADEQUATE protection to AMERICAN personnel in UNSTABLE Libya in UNSTABLE region of the world - Middle East -during 9/11 ANNIVERSARY -documented by hand written journal of dead amb. Chris Stevens who wrote of ESCALATING danger and being on Al Qaeda HIT LIST!

it's golf, it's movie stars, parties, The View, Letterman and Pimp with a Limp INSTEAD of meeting for DAILY INTEL briefings (met less than 50% of time!!!!!!!!!!

NO in NOvember
NO to OWEbama
REPEAL OBAMACARE=new president, republican senators

Obama = stole $716 BILLION from MEDICARE and gave it to OBAMACARE..he did NOT put the $716 BILLION back into Medicare!

Obama=STEALING from Medicare! and it WILL continue if he's RE-elected!

OBAMA= NO TRUST!

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#13 Sep 26, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Politifact rated Romney's ad “pants-on-fire.” The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler gave it four Pinocchios.
Voter watchdog says it's uncovered absentee ballot fraud in Florida, New York

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/vo...

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#14 Sep 26, 2012
twostroketerror wrote:
<quoted text>
~this guy says it best~
Glenn, This isn't fact checking. This column is an opinion piece. I know at this stage that you don't know the difference but some day you will understand.
 
Example: "The 2009 fiscal year is especially hard because that budget year is so much of an amalgam of Bush and Obama policies; we essentially split the cost of the Troubled Asset Relief Program between the two of them." 
 
This comment ignores: 1) President Obama inherited the program (and the recession), 2) It is an explicit Bush/Cheney program. 
 
The opinion piece also ignores: President Obama inherited an unsustainable tax code (i.e. one that doubled the national debt even when the economy was growing). A tax code that Republicans refused to change to allow increased revenues (even though we are still at war). The Afghan war is part of the "Obama" spending. He inherited that war, one that had no exit strategy. By suggesting that that was his policy! You ate saying that a feasible stratagy was to cut and run.
Glenn, face it. You are either no good with numbers, or you are biased.
spin is sin..........that don't win.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#15 Sep 26, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
The rewriting of history by the frightwingers and "don't blame Bush-baby" has taken on new meaning with the desperation of the republicannot fight for the White House.
Doesn't even count for spin anymore!
Low-wage work force grows 30% as number of jobs shrinks...

Household Incomes Down 8.2% Under Obama...
Robert

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#16 Sep 26, 2012
A large part, perhaps half the deficit is the result of the recession, the things done to combat it and the reduced revenues because of it. Bush bears responsibility for growing the budget as does the congress. However, at some point, the blamer and apologize r N chief is responsible for his own actions which include using vodo statistics and a basing his statements on a thoroughly debunked column that appeared on MarketWatch earlier this year.

Yes he was stuck with a economic mess but his suggestion that 90% of the current deficit is Bush's fault is so obviously a lie how can you trust anything he says. We have not even felt the impact of obama care on the budget yet and when you add that to the other two shoes that are about to fall we are in pretty sad shape and need a course change before we end up like greece.
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#17 Sep 26, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
The rewriting of history by the frightwingers and "don't blame Bush-baby" has taken on new meaning with the desperation of the republicannot fight for the White House.
Doesn't even count for spin anymore!
I don't know what rewriting you are talking about ?

The Bush Recession ran from Dec 2007 until June 2009 .

So what has Obama done to improve the economy since June 2009 ?

His " Stimulous " made improvements in the spring of 2010 but has since dropped off and is not able to keep up with the population growth since.

Compare his track record to all other Post WWII recoveries plz.
Don Joe

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Sep 26, 2012
xnutmegger wrote:
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I don't know what rewriting you are talking about ?
The Bush Recession ran from Dec 2007 until June 2009 .
So what has Obama done to improve the economy since June 2009 ?
His " Stimulous " made improvements in the spring of 2010 but has since dropped off and is not able to keep up with the population growth since.
Compare his track record to all other Post WWII recoveries plz.
??? No, the bush depression started on 9/11/2001 and continues. The depression has subsided a bit in the past few years, but not nearly enough to state we have finally recovered.

Obama should have been able to learn from FDR and implemented those policies right away. If he had the depression would be over.

“"I'm A Great American!"”

Since: Sep 08

Obama Nation! USA! USA!

#19 Sep 26, 2012
Without the Bush economic meltdown of 2008, the stimulus, the bailouts, all the excess spending would not have been necessary.

The Man deserves to be reelected to his second term as President.
lance Winslow

San Jose, CA

#20 Sep 26, 2012
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
??? No, the bush depression started on 9/11/2001 and continues. The depression has subsided a bit in the past few years, but not nearly enough to state we have finally recovered.
Obama should have been able to learn from FDR and implemented those policies right away. If he had the depression would be over.
Preventing Obama's economic policies to speed recovery was the topmost GOP priority.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#21 Sep 26, 2012
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
??? No, the bush depression started on 9/11/2001 and continues. The depression has subsided a bit in the past few years, but not nearly enough to state we have finally recovered.
Obama should have been able to learn from FDR and implemented those policies right away. If he had the depression would be over.
prove it
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#22 Sep 26, 2012
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
??? No, the bush depression started on 9/11/2001 and continues. The depression has subsided a bit in the past few years, but not nearly enough to state we have finally recovered.
Obama should have been able to learn from FDR and implemented those policies right away. If he had the depression would be over.
Duh !

Another Lib caught in the " Information vacuum ".

FDR's base economic plan never cured the Great Depression and double dipped it in the 8th year ( 1937).

Hirohito and Hitler ended the Great Depression as it turned FDR 180* into a full blown capitalist. Without H & Hs help one can only speculate if and when the GD would of ended.

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