Ad claims Obama will ‘force doctors to assist homosexuals in buying surrogate babies’

Sep 27, 2012 | Posted by: Rick in Kansas | Full story: www.politifact.com

A fact-challenged newspaper ad attacking President Barack Obama addresses some standard wedge issues: same-sex marriage, illegal immigration, Islamic law.

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These anti-gay will tell any lie, no matter how outrageous and obvious to further thirty agenda of hatred. They won't stop till we degenerate into the equivalent of a third world country with archaic laws demanding the death of 90% of our population. They are sociopaths that need to be dealt with in a decisive and permanent fashion

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Yes, he and Michelle kidnap women and keep them locked in the basement of the White House while their Joe Biden jacks off in a tube and artificially inseminates them.

Anyone want some eggs?

Go eat poodle poop.
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The way things are going I believe it.

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Ricky wrote:
The way things are going I believe it.
Sure ya do......your nothing but an ANTI-GAY troll R1!!!

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Ricky wrote:
The way things are going I believe it.
I'm guessing you're also one of those that believe the moon is made of cheese.

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They lie. They do it with devastating effective.

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+ness.
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These anti-gay will tell any lie, no matter how outrageous and obvious to further thirty agenda of hatred. They won't stop till we degenerate into the equivalent of a third world country with archaic laws demanding the death of 90% of our population. They are sociopaths that need to be dealt with in a decisive and permanent fashion
Couldn't have said it better. I now believe we may be waiting "eternally" for some group to step in and do this. You or I can't do it; at least the "denizens" of this site have been good enough NOT to say something like, "So why don't you do that, if you're so convinced?" That's hog shit; it needs to be an organized group with stature, and they need to do something *even if it looks like they would easily lose*; doing it effectively and doing it right could change the national dialogue.

That's *all* that needs to be done to tip the scales, I believe. I could be wrong, but I say that because *NONE OF US* knows the future.

People are letting this happen again and again and again, and *egregious, horrific lies* are being told freely and repeatedly -- and leading to antigay victories. I'm 100.0% stumped as to why a stop is not being put to it -- because what I propose does *not* allow anyone pro-gay to trot out the usual reasons for the fact that it hasn't happened.(I was good enough not to use the word "excuses," you'll note.) What I think would best be done, and smartest done, proposes *simply to knock the national discourse into a new direction*-- even if the lawsuits are kicked right out of court.

There must be a way. There must be a way. I will never stop believing this, because not to believe it means I have given in to a notion that America has become a country *FOUNDED IN LIES, SUBTERFUGE AND EVIL*. I doubt that any proud Americans would want me thinking that of the country. Therefore, there *m-u-s-t* be a way. Somewhere in the law, there *must* be a principle that does not allow a group to tell *knowing, exceptionally vicious and evil lies* about an entire minority without paying the price.

My proposal for some time has been to introduce these lies into *EVERY* gay rights case and to demand that the antigay answer to them in open court -- so that a review of those lies is in *EVERY* court transcript and this serves to amass a court record, nationwide, of the dispelling of those mendacious notions.

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hi hi wrote:
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There must be a way. There must be a way. I will never stop believing this, because not to believe it means I have given in to a notion that America has become a country *FOUNDED IN LIES, SUBTERFUGE AND EVIL*. I doubt that any proud Americans would want me thinking that of the country. Therefore, there *m-u-s-t* be a way..........
There is a way, or, I should way, there are many ways, and we are doing them all.

We are calming irrational fears by simply living and being ourselves. It's harder to fear and harm those you know personally, and care about. And I've seen the changes even in the conservative area I live in.

You know you are winning when the teenage daughter of a conservative friend asks you and your partner, innocently and out of the blue, when you will be getting married.

And that's happening everywhere.

We are fighting for our basic civil and human rights in just about every state court and taking many of these battles all the way up the line.

We are unrelentingly fighting the voting battles, and have see the polls slowly shifting even there.

And we keep on doing it. As long as it takes. In as many venues as it takes.

That's the way.

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+ness.
Had your coffee this morning, yet?:)

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There is a way, or, I should way, there are many ways, and we are doing them all.
We are calming irrational fears by simply living and being ourselves. It's harder to fear and harm those you know personally, and care about. And I've seen the changes even in the conservative area I live in.
You know you are winning when the teenage daughter of a conservative friend asks you and your partner, innocently and out of the blue, when you will be getting married.
And that's happening everywhere.
We are fighting for our basic civil and human rights in just about every state court and taking many of these battles all the way up the line.
We are unrelentingly fighting the voting battles, and have see the polls slowly shifting even there.
And we keep on doing it. As long as it takes. In as many venues as it takes.
That's the way.
One of my neighbors, who rarely speaks to my spouse and I, recently asked if we are going to go to Iowa and get married. I have no idea why he suddenly got interested, but I welcomed the question. Turned out his nephew recently told the family he was gay, and this guy just wanted an opening question in order to engage me on all things gay. He didn't hate us or anything, but just knew nothing about gay folks. Very worthwhile conversation. I think he went away with a more positive view. One person at a time is winning us this battle.
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But who believes anything anymore. Lies beget lies. As the downward spiral continues, things will get worse and what we all put up with will be tested. And the blame game will deal with the guilty or the innocent. And maybe a little of each.

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...You know you are winning when the teenage daughter of a conservative friend asks you and your partner, innocently and out of the blue, when you will be getting married...
Yes, thank you for bringing that up. My mother wanted to hold off from telling my sister I was gay. When we finally told her, my sister responded with:
"I don't care, he's still my brother, what's the problem?"

She was 12 when we told her. A little more than two years ago we told her. There are very few kids I've heard of that, when confronted with this kind of news, said their siblings were evil or something along those lines.

I dream of a day when no one has to "come out."
When it's fine to just be who you are.
Isn't that what they tell you in school? What loving parents tell you whenever you're nervous about meeting new people or going somewhere new?

Just be who you are.

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One of my neighbors, who rarely speaks to my spouse and I, recently asked if we are going to go to Iowa and get married. I have no idea why he suddenly got interested, but I welcomed the question. Turned out his nephew recently told the family he was gay, and this guy just wanted an opening question in order to engage me on all things gay. He didn't hate us or anything, but just knew nothing about gay folks. Very worthwhile conversation. I think he went away with a more positive view. One person at a time is winning us this battle.
This story, and many others, is why I am so glad to have been born in the 90's, to witness the beginning of this amazing century.
When history looks back on these days, all the way back to the beginning of getting rights for women and black people, I'm sure that they'll call it the time of change. Or the rights age. Something along those lines.

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This story, and many others, is why I am so glad to have been born in the 90's, to witness the beginning of this amazing century.
When history looks back on these days, all the way back to the beginning of getting rights for women and black people, I'm sure that they'll call it the time of change. Or the rights age. Something along those lines.
How about "Age of Aquarius"? Yeah, it supposedly began in the 60's, but an Astrological age lasts 2150 years or so. We are still in its' infancy. Not even a year old yet by that reasoning.
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There is a way, or, I should way, there are many ways, and we are doing them all.
We are calming irrational fears by simply living and being ourselves. It's harder to fear and harm those you know personally, and care about. And I've seen the changes even in the conservative area I live in.
You know you are winning when the teenage daughter of a conservative friend asks you and your partner, innocently and out of the blue, when you will be getting married.
And that's happening everywhere.
We are fighting for our basic civil and human rights in just about every state court and taking many of these battles all the way up the line.
We are unrelentingly fighting the voting battles, and have see the polls slowly shifting even there.
And we keep on doing it. As long as it takes. In as many venues as it takes.
That's the way.
To me, this is all *part* of the equation.

(Also, thank you.)

I wrote a long post about why I'm not entirely satisfied with this, but I erased it. I will continue to think what I think, but I do love your response. I simply feel *vehemently* that I would be betraying myself if I let it satisfy me entirely. I can't. I cannot. I have seen too many *extraordinarily deliberate lies* and seen *sociopathic evil* by now, never so widely practiced in a group such as they, never so *blatant and gleefully satanic*-- not even with the most virulent racism. I've never seen anything like it in America; it has changed the way I see the country. It needs justice. Badly. Too badly for words. Or else America is simply *NOT* the place I thought it was (which, ultimately, will be fine; but first I'd like to salvage my opinion of America).
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I read that headline again and I can't grasp this.

They *know* they're lying.

In a court of law before a judge, there is *NO WAY* anyone but the idiots among them would stick by that story. They *k-n-o-w* they're lying. They *know* it.

And these are "religious" and "moral" people, so they say, who *choose to break a commandment* and *know* they're doing it while they plot to do it, while they do it, and while they are criticized afterward.

They don't have a moral compass, by that logic. They *have no basis* for any "morality"; they completely lack morality. I can't understand that. I can't understand that *tens of millions of Americans* are like that. It makes me realize why the country is in such dire peril and why the jails are so full and why practically no one can be trusted. THIS is what we're dealing with: people who *know* they're lying, absolutely and 100%, and wake up the next day *and lie again*. That's the America I now see. I don't get how the country is even going to survive. I really don't.
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I don't think Obama should be buying babies for homosexuals like Jerry Sandusky and Larry Brinkin and the rest who will just use the kids as sex toys.
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I don't think Obama should be buying babies for homosexuals like Jerry Sandusky and Larry Brinkin and the rest who will just use the kids as sex toys.
I was going to vote for Obama until I read your post, I didn't realize he wants to use tax money to buy babies for queers so they can use them as sex toys. Mitt Romney gets my vote!!!
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<quoted text>I was going to vote for Obama until I read your post, I didn't realize he wants to use tax money to buy babies for queers so they can use them as sex toys. Mitt Romney gets my vote!!!
If Obama thinks we can afford to use our tax money to buy babies/sex toys for the homosexuals, he needs to be fired ASAP.
I'm also voting for Paul Ryan, and that Romney guy.

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